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hahahaha - damn! and I was so pleased when I read every line without mistake. :P

Hahaha that was so funny :) .. and i read it without mistake lol

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that took 40 secs, then sure i must be getting old :P

This old man loved it

WELL when do I find out if I passed or not?????????????

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I have to say I do Gorty, and I find them quite enlightening and balanced. Just my opinion but I like having Laughing Girl in the forums. It gives me comfort that there is at least one person who is smart and sensible as well as understanding and kind. Wish there were more then I would never need to post to the forums ever again. Oh how that _would_ make some people happy ;)

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Keep posting NT and maybe help form a new movement - TPACPC
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I read and admire Laughing Girl as well. It's remarkable how someone so obviously intelligent is able to post so often without showing even a hint of egoism. She's never condecending, and never seeks to incite contention only so she can position herself on the right side of a disagreement, and her posts are still very thoughtful and very thought provoking.
She's the best.

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Yes.. I meant I do read LG's posts. And would recommend anyone else does as well. But of course, you are free to form your own opinions I would not wish you to do something you did not want to do.

Why, I am even told there are people who have never read one of my posts. Imagine that!! ;) Hehe..

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don't bother with banana - it ain't that nice to be honest

Is laughing girl your alter ego TNT?

Now there's a thought. You think she could be my better half? Or worse half? I think you'd need to ask her that, for the record though, she is not me. :)

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T wat?

Didn't think you were same person. Complimenting you both :-)!!!

I totally agree.

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Ok TNT

Thank you, Forum Friend...for the compliment to me too, because I definitely know I'm not Gortensia...lol. I too find her posts very positive as well as very responsive. I am sure the same positive and responsive she is as a real person.
And yes, I always post under the same nickname here in forum, just because I always say what I really think and want another people to know that I am the same Laughing girl. Maybe some day I will post under my hostname but then I will let you know that it was no one else but me.

You and everyone have a wonderful day / night :-)

I like laughing girl a lot. Always intelligent, well thought out posts.

I agree with you Forum Friend about Gortensia. I like to read her posts. As far as Laughing Girl I have not read as many of hers. I will have to start reading them closer now. Thank you for your input.

My dear...sometimes we all feel like that. But it is just a moments of weakness, they will go away. Look around...actually noone is perfect but everyone is unique. You have something what others do not have..you need just to discover what is it. How old are you? Sometimes 18-20 years old girls think that they never will be loved. That is funny, really...And even if you are 35-40yo, it is not the end of life :) You really need some of self-confidence...Stop hardly think that you have to find someone, nothing will change if to think like that. Just enjoy life, it has many other enjoyable sides. Find your own hobby to fill your time, start to create something...and you maybe will find your fate there.

Best of luck to you!

Listen to Laughing girl, discover your inner beauty and you will see all that you have to offer someone. Do not be in a hurry, love will come to you but first you must appreciate yourself for all that you are. Even when we are in a dark mood our inner light is still there...waiting for us to let out. I wish all the best for you and send you a warm hug from someone who knows your true spirit will set you free :))

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Peace to you, for we all feel the same sometime.

Advice sometimes is meaningless, but I will offer this, if you do not TRY to love yourself, you cannot find love in another, nor can they find you. Take a deep breathe, think of all the the things to be grateful for. If you are fat, be glad you are not hungry, if you are woman, be glad you are not a man, if you are poor be glad that you are alive, and if you are sad and lonely, be happy...because there is hope that things may improve.

You are not alone...we are human, therefore we are made form the universe, and you have the stars in your soul...let them shine.

Peace to you, for we all feel the same sometime.

Not yet sweetie :))

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yes send to me :p

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I'm an idiot Laughing girl :) ....didn't get because this is not my nick here ;) So how do we meet when we both are so mysterious? :))

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I believe your mom has wisdom :) We shall see how fate will treat us. Hug :)

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I sometimes feel the same :( and i understand you totally. Even if people say i'm beautiful, i feel so ugly, or i have moments when i feel the most stupid on earth, but im at my second univ and so on. You just have to resist, i learned that these moments come and pass. Try to find a new hobby or go to some classes to learn dunno what silly thing,.. anything to make u smile and never forget to see the good parts in your life; im sure they exist.
..... you are never alone anyway, see how many people write u here? :):)

"Try to find a new hobby or go to some classes to learn dunno what silly thing,.. anything to make u smile"

Yes, and the best new relationships I ever made were through a shared interest - I already had something in common with her and so had a lot to talk about. Also, we all look that much more attractive when we are animated and interested in something.

Thank you, honey...for the response and so kind words :-)
Of course, let be a friends, even if anonimous yet, and even if I am 150 years old ;-) I feel comfortable with people of any age...Just please, change your nickname, I don't want you to be UPSET ever :D

Be like me, I love myself, in fact, I adore myself. I am the most intelligent humorous, person I know. Just check the forums, people sing my praises. Ok, enough about me, let's talk about you. what do you think of me? :--)

I think you are cute as a button. But don't let anyone else know that ok? :D


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Oh I do apologise.. It's tisme who is cute... imshy is just plain old sexy...

Dear dear dear.. hope there are no cat fights now? ;)

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still living the dream,almea.knock yourself out :--) p.s nice that you kept your homo-erotic fantasies about my genitals out of this post

That is because of the power and influence of The Beatles.

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crazy sixties ;) - the most progresive decade of any century ? c'mon - hehe

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all right, a litte lezbo kissng going on with the new girl....yeahhhh

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what's so naty about girls kissing?
are you homophobic?

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lezbo kisses are beautiful things. you shouldn't be so judgemental and so quick to disparage things that might only make you, personally, uncomfortable ... especially here of all places.
peace be with you.

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keep it going virtual one. high aims are needed, and u made a nice start, ;) by the way didn't even know u where BI ;) klem

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i agree, she looks hot

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now there's a novel idea

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im not a host---LMAO,,,,,go back to your dictionary and look up crazy-goober

Yeah, don't you worth it :D

still LMAO, tell me when you find it in you english dictionary, its not in mine, by the way, trust me i am worth it,, im rich

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still LMAO, i have every right to do so, if you dont like it, leave me alone

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Bossman?

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....for women, that's so true.....

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can be true for guys too sometimes....

loll i agree:)))))))

nice one anne. good to see u back again

beautiful, i shed many tears

No, u dont get it. CC said there will be another group of 20. When lovecharm said 40 he meant 40 couples, not 40 people.

when did they say that? i must have been in hibernation

right after they published the first 20 couples, DUH!

show us where they said it then...coz its only u that seems to have seen it

not only him mate, i saw it too. too bad it was already deleted along with all the promotion of this game.

well then i guess u and Pete been wanking too much and its true what they say...it does make u go blind...coz i just got this from CC

"This is our exact statement:

"To the first 20 matches (40 winners) CamContacts will grant $1000 of credit to Viewer and $1000 cash to Chathost!"

Hope this explains.

Kind regards,

Alexander
help@CamContacts.com"

so unless u r sayin now that cc r lyin i think im right...have a nice day :)

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Yes 20 viewers and 20 hosts = 40 winners

VERY True. I always go by them rules. Specially the 2nd one cos u never know when i`ll get a hard-on again :P So its better to use it when it appears :))

when it appears,you disappear DSAW? :--)

problem in UK at least is that they keep losing all kinds of personal data compiled on us citizens

same problem all over Nick, hopefully it looks like our goverment won't be allowed to follow this EU directive (if its the right name), but then again u got google and others too

In a word yes. There is a fundamental problem with improving perceived security through technology. It does not work. That is to say, the more you rely on technology to make you feel secure the less secure you will be. That is when you are not just GIVING away the information to would be exploiters of it for the hell of it.

Biometrics and id cards are the epitome of that.

I will go into it more but unless someone wants me to I shall just leave you a link instead.

http://www.no2id.net/

One last thought.. have you ever wondered why public CCTV ,paid for by the public , installed on behalf of the public, designed to protect the public, is not allowed to be seen by the public? Why are all these councils putting their CCTV systems in fortified bunker type environments. What exactly is it they are protecting themselves from?

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"The Naked Truth is Not a Number he is a Free Man" :-)

Very well cracked :)

thereby proving YOU really need a life now

Are you number 2? ;)


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...in the context of the thread i should be Rover. The balloon is coming to get you:-)

Interesting information, TNT, thank you for the reply.

I'm curious, what are your thoughts on privacy software: encryption programs and onion routing and such? As an adovcate of privacy and liberty, do you use such programs yourself? And if you(or anyone else reading this) do, are you comfortable using it, or do you feel like making use of such software makes you seem guilty of something in others' eyes?

Well my take on issues of privacy has been long established since the first inceptions of public key cryptography first his the wide world in general. I still remember (not so long ago I might hasten to add) when countries like the us tried to 'ban' advanced cryptography from being exported, treating it as if it were munitions being sent to an enemy country, or as they liked to put it, treason.

In a world where documents can be freely copied and passed around with just a click or two there is a place for privacy through cryptography that should never be denied and governments, despite their protestations, will have to accept that.

I think the best way to explain that issue to quote from the PGP faq written 13 years ago now. (http://www.faqs.org/faqs/pgp-faq/part1/)

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1.2. Why should I encrypt my mail? I'm not doing anything illegal!

You should encrypt your e-mail for the same reason that you don't
write all of your correspondence on the back of a post card. E-mail is
actually far less secure than the postal system. With the post office,
you at least put your letter inside an envelope to hide it from casual
snooping. Take a look at the header area of any e-mail message that
you receive and you will see that it has passed through a number of
nodes on its way to you. Every one of these nodes presents the
opportunity for snooping. Encryption in no way should imply illegal
activity. It is simply intended to keep personal thoughts personal.

-- CUT --

It is the old chestnut of "If you are no guilty, you have nothing to hide"
but I have my pride and my privacy which is MINE and I don't give a flying fig whether that makes me look guilty or not.

Of course trouble is we have been giving away our rights to freedom steadily for the last 20 years or so. To the point where the UK government no longer has to actually have any evidence of wrong-doing and can choose to hold you and demand you give them
access to your encrypted information. If you refuse or are UNABLE (ie
forgotten you password) then they can charge you under a trumped-up draconian law and lock you up for years with no appeal.

So the short answer, yes. I use encryption pretty much on daily basis and I wish more people would. I am an old dog and have been around for too long not to know how fragile and exposed the world of the Internet is. Just things like yahoo messenger, skype or MSN are fraught with vulnerabilities. You do realise it is possible to sniff all your yahoo chatter at will given the right circumstances? It is possible to intercept files, images and voice sent between people quite easily?

But why do so many of us not care then, if email is insecure, messengers insecure, voip insecure. Why are we not upset and demanding out privacy? I think most people tend to fall in to mindset of SEP, Somebody Else's Problem. But if you have ever been a victim of identity theft you will realise the more about yourself you give away the less of a person you become in this modern world.

Ok, I know it is kinda long but I hope it makes someone think about this issues at least. It is a wide and complicated subject, but it is
increasingly an urgent one as more and more of our freedoms to discuss this issue are curtailed.


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The Naked Truth has a way of always adding interesting detailed clear information and ideas

Thanks :)


TNT

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We know who you are Laughing Girl.

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the funniest t-shirt design i ever encountered read "665...the 'neighbour' of the beast" :-)

What is interesting to postulate is that give that evil as a concept is supposed to be timeless and exist before man's creation, why is it it took until the formulation of the the Hindu-Arabic system we use now (which includes 0 , which was a 'new' concept at the time of the old testament) to actually associate evil mysticism with numbers.

In societies where abstract mathematics was not required, nor needed, quite often the concept of anything more than the 10 fingers on your hands became just 'many' 1, 2 ..10 , many. Does this mean that if you have no significance in the numbers you are immune to evil that is marked by numbers?


Or is it perhaps a spiritually polymodal need for humans to see patterns and significance when there is none. Just as everyone must create their gods and their prophets in their own image so to do we like to compartmentalise things like evil good and what lies between. Perhaps it is not evil or good which exists but rather our thoughts about evil or good that make it manifest for us.

Quite apart from what some of the truly horrendous things in the world that go on I firmly believe that the whole idea of evil acts on other humans would be obviated if perpetrators where made to experience the suffering they inflict. In a perfect (but very strange) world if you instantly suffered the same fate as your victim you would think twice about what acts you commit against your fellow man.

Off topic I know.. but.. just felt like rambling :)

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Well, the conception of what is good and what is evil becomes much more clear if to accept that both good and evil have their primordial and real essence, and humans are executors...but executors who have their FREEWILL from the very beginning. So, they can freely choose what to execute during their lives. The more each of us acts maliciously, the more evil spreads and grows. I firmly believe that every person, being in sanity, is able to understand what is good and what is evil, and moreover, his inner voice exactly tells him where he is right and where he is wrong. If he brings sufferings to someone, he anyway knows and somewhere deeply inside his soul feels that he is wrong. But it was his CHOICE to do that. That is why people always try to justify all their wrongs but again, why? Because they feel they are not right, therefore are not happy. Human's nature wasn't created for executing evil. Partly those who brings sufferings to others are suffering too...(as an example read Dostoevsky's "Crime and punishment")...but another part of sufferings and punishments lays beyond our physical life (or reward and gratification if you were keeping to do your the best during your life).
So, it is not only our bad thoughts but our bad actions for sure feed the evil, give it a power, make it real and keep things in the world such as we have.
As for numbers...any of them means nothing in itself, they are just a numbers. Much more important WHAT people are doing to make them significant, so ACTIONS is what makes not only numbers but any other things "clean" or "dirty"..
Well, I was trying to answer on your question, The NakedTruth :) Seems I went too far...lol. Ah, and forgot to say...it is just my point of view, so I am not insisting everyone should think like me.

Just heard a report of a woman in Saudi Arabia who is going to be beheaded because he supposedly practices witchcraft.... The evidence against her was a white robe in her closet and a couple of men who claim that she cast a spell on them and made them impotent.
Do you think court sytem in Saudi Arabia realizes that it's the instrument of evil?

don't they know to throw her off a bridge.if she floats,she's a witch.sheesh when will some systems move into the 21st century :--)

Unfortunately, there is no any perfect system in this world, just some are much far from fairth then others.

is it true that in Russia, they look at your bank accounts and income as well?

Not necessarily. Still depends on who you are...and also if it has something to do with taxes or crime.

Big Brother is creeping all over the place, just look how many members get bent out of shape when some post with "Anonymous", next they will want us have a ID number tattoed ala Concentration Camp style.

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How about to prevent the "bad guys" from winning, they look up your ass, open your mail, investigate your health history, eavesdrop on your phone calls, open your mail, monitor your banking activity, confiscate your laptop every time you cross the border, check your voting record, steal elections, lie about civilian casualties during wartime, steal taxpayers money to conduct illegal wars, assassinate "dissident" activists, torture "terrorists" to obtain information, create weapons that will activate from outer space, ...is this OK, if we protect "ourselves" from the terrorists?

Good question...but everything is not so easy like we used to be told by newspapers and TV. It is only a half of a truth...moreover, sometimes it is not a truth at all. Most of the horrible things in the world (terrorism, crisises, viruses etc) are actually initiated "in vitro" for the other, much more secret aims, which average citizens never know. And then, after the horrible thing "was happened" they tell us that we need IDs, biometrics, fingerprints and other methods of control "to prevent" those horrible things...Otherwise, how else could they explain their arrangements to control everyone and everything, including a private life. Every law-abiding person doesn't need that actually...
It is hard to believe maybe, but even so-called "free world" essentially is not free. It only seems that you can do everything what you want. But if you try to think deeper, you will discover that noone is actually have a real freedom. You're tied by hundreds of connections with civil being and you think you couldn't survive without them. Thus, you must do everything what is prescribed by civilization. And you will follow any new laws just to survive. This is the main tool to manipulate people all around the world.
"What for" is another question, too deep and serious...and as I know is forbidden to discuss in this forum...

they already did that to my dog LG.you think he might be a terrorist? :--)

I understand you irony, tisme :-) But don't forget that many many things were probed on the animals first, before they were applied to a people. The next it could be a children for the same reason as animals...well, probably some already are. You better think what and who stands behind all that. Yes, the aim could seem very reasonable but there could also be another reason, which have nothing to do with announced safety.

sorry, typo...instead of "another reason" I was going to type "another aim" :-)

all very true LG,but on the up side i can now listen to the radio when i take him for a walk :--)

Well, yes :-) But reminds me that too much of commodities and conveniences are also among of those things which put us in dependence...

Commodities and conveniences, that is so true. Not only do they enslave us, but the companies that make their profits off of the commodities and conveniences they provide us rarely care much about the damages their products ultimately cause.
Scientific information about the negative health effects of cigarrettes, for example, or the scientific studies that have shown high correlations between mobile phone use and the development of brain tumors. Such companies pay huge sums of money just to try to hide or dispute that information just for the sake of their profits. It's evil.

I hope your happy when "the goverment" starts to tax you for useing your credit card here

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same here..but shit happens

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damn u took on her dream too..AINT HAPPENING

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its a tough life aint it

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depends on who that person is

aren't you a sweet threesome - klem

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But that is okay with me for now......

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I had a lot of fun with that and got paid too! :-)

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i didnt know bunnies can drive :P

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all women are lovly in one way or another,im sure you are too.

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Here's hoping you got the special Valentine you wanted dave. I would say with a ******* (country) postmark on it but I'll only get into trouble again with the moaning minnies and dreary willys here. :P

Happy Valentine's Davey))) Love ya lots)) Mwa)

sure baby leave ur number and i'll send u some sexy messages:P

the spirit of you discourse is good but the intention misguided.

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keep dreamin aint gonna happen

Since when?))

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HVD :)

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explanation for Gorty: you posted first, doll then posted like, "I second that!". It means she agrees and supports you. Remember the song, 'I second that emotion!' ?

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and a happy valentines day to you Vera

Guess all includes me unintendently - klem

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Hehe.. well then I might indeed have something for you ;) Stay tuned because this is not all.

Happy Valentine's :)

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the strikes over...get back to work on those soap operas!! and leave us alone.

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:D..mmmmmmmmmmmm... ;-)

keep playing dude and good luck.

No, it doesn't bother me in the least.

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Mondo can I ask you something ?

Don't you just hate it, when you leave a message on the general forum and some unimaginative comes along and almost copies your post cos they can't think of anything original to say?

Not really. That is why I post, so you may learn!

want detailed instructions on how to do suicide there mondo, after all you did promise someone you were going to do it, guess you couldn't find them

I might have promised, war, but, after all, this is a fantasy site. if I had the guts to comit suicide, I would have donr it on trhe way back from Russia when I had good reason and black mood.

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Do you think that is the ONLY reason I went to Russia? Some people are SOOO deluded.

Yes it was because you told so many about it, was your words Mondo, you should remember what you say

Yes, it was one of the reasons. Only two people will ever know the whole truth of what happened. And I will not say.

we all know what happened...u went there thinking u were gonna get laid to a 19 yr old chick and she came to her senses and didnt meet u....jeezzz u really r obsessed with this ray act ur age drop it and move on with ur life...AND WIFE!!!!

Wow...So much drama. Will u ever stop with this soap opera?

The mondo telenovela is back.

I didn't even know it ended...

This is getting funnier than Duck Soup

Ray my friend, enough now. Speak to you soon I hope.

Looks like it is time to disappear and return with a new nick.

but u already come here with other screen names...not much changes does it

You are being MUCH too polite Wayne. Is your heart not in this game?

As an outside observer of this give and take, I have to say that I only hope it's just a game.
Come on, we're all better than this, right? :)

no we aint

or just disappear again LOL

Exactly. Especially now that the weekend is approaching... lol

i like ur thinking, W but there is always monday :((( LOL

wonder what warchant is going to do when he hears ray is claiming that he and the lady are liars

i'm going to disney world

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Freaked me out