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Inspiring thoughts


Anger is a condition in which the tongue works faster than the mind.

You can't change the past, but you can ruin the present
By worrying over the future.

God always gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.

All people smile in the same language.

Everyone has beauty, but not everyone sees it.

It's important for parents to live the same things they teach.

If you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow,
you have no today to be thankful for.

The choice you make today will usually affect tomorrow.

Take time to laugh, for it is the music of the soul.

Love is strengthened by working through conflicts together.

Harsh words break no bones but they do break hearts.

To get out of a difficulty, one usually must go through it.

We take for granted the things that we should be giving thanks for.

Love is the only thing that can be divided without being diminished.

Happiness is enhanced by others, but does not depend upon others.

For every minute you are angry with someone, you lose 60 seconds of happiness
that you can never get back.

Do what you can, for who you can, with what you have, and where you are.



cheers
:)))
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RE: Inspiring thoughts

Very nice and very true Nadeen apart from the one about God :P

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RE: Inspiring thoughts

...that one about God was for anonymous, not for u INYF :))))

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RE: Inspiring thoughts

thanks....but i prefer the terms "love" or "nature" or maybe even "tao" to "god"....helps folks understand that i ain't full of the same ideas of such things as that they are. ;)
..it's easier for them to think less of me that way. :P

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RE: Inspiring thoughts

My tongue works faster than my mind not only when im angry:PP
Ahhh, im naughty again:-))

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RE: Inspiring thoughts

Again? Do you ever stop? :D

Thank you Nadeen :)

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RE: Inspiring thoughts

No, never, but you like that:PP

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Hosts Only

Ok hosts who was the most intelligent viewer you meet on cc?
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RE: Hosts Only

u sure bout that???

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RE: Hosts Only

intelligent and member r too a bit far away from each other terms:)

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RE: Hosts Only

A bit like host and no i do not want your money :-)

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RE: for imshy

I am cleverer than to respond to this anonymous shit. Damn i wasnt enough clever:PP

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RE: for imshy

Leave cara alone Alex. Another stupid post from you yet again...

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RE: for imshy

...and now i am the cleverest:PP

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RE: for imshy

Glad we clarified that..i dont want nasty rumours goin round sayin that im inteligent :p

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RE: looooool

Yeah, anja, bravo. after such posts like yours we get that attitue from our viewers that make us post smth like "why you don't respect us, guys?" jeez who has no respect for others, has not respect for himself first. plz don't make me blush for you anymore.
of course there are some pervs here who are just impolite and insult everyone, but the majority of my viewers are kind and intelligent people who deserve respect.
we attract ppl who have same features as we have. i'm sorry, anja, that you attract only those who are far from intelligence.
hope you'll have more nice viewers. good luck.

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RE: looooool

I like your reply Trisky. Thanks for being here ;))))

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RE: looooool

Very diplomatic Trik..........since you are non adult I would expect the same from someone like you. You milk your viewers good ic..............

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RE: looooool girls, ur fecking funny

Yeah, anja, was a nice joke of you, i'm sure your always that funny :D

"A girl.."... why on earth are you bothered by my skirt ? you have nothing to do here but just to see through my archives ? i can hear jealousy in your voice very distinctly btw :P dunno who you are tho (guess your not that brave to talk openly, but ok) and after all, it's the last and lowest thing in arguing to go to personalilties as you did.
and btw, to be intelligent is not equal to spend much money. tho after reading your reply there's not wonder you have no idea of what intelligence is.
good luck

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RE: looooool

Anja is only messing about Triksy, its her humour. :P
If there was no intelligent guys here there wouldn`t be anyone here :P hehe.. I hope i`m intelligent Triksy:P and Anja.... Cos i`m mad u 2 didn`t put me down as being stupid. i mean smartass.. i mean, awww feck i dunno what i mean.. I`ll be back i need to go to isle 12 for a few mnutes or is it the monitor and keyboard, damn i hate when i lose my brains.. :P hahaha

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RE: looooool

I wish the same:PP

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Why not? For example when someone is unhealthy it cant wish health to other people?:PP

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RE: looooool

You watch too many fairytales, your not child......yet act like one. Sheeeesh

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RE: looooool

Wondering who are children here with their false preconceptions about others, who they dont know at all.

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RE: looooool

You are sleazy and a creep. That's no 'false preconception'

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RE: looooool

Thats it what am talking about: 'false preconception'. You have to learn a lot about life until you'll understand, what did i mean. Of course you can continue your craps here, but it just qualify you and show me what kind of person you can be in real. Spread lies about someone (or believe untruth things, said by others) its very easy, its a bit harder (but not impossible) to discuss with the person face to face, not just behind it's back. So when you have anything to say, you know how to find me by cc-mail or private me in commchat.

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RE: looooool

nice here, isn't it? :)

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RE: looooool

Ahhhhhh, another 'Anonymous' without the balls to type his/her name. Alex you should put this one back on its leash! I know who you are tho, you do not fool me and neither doees your ability to hide your crap language skills. For your information tho, I have no one on this site and do not intend on having anyone from here. Its a porn site...

As for you Alex, well what more can I say.... nah your not worth it, just watch out 'boy'... The hunter just became the hunted!

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RE: looooool

Wish i could know what about you are talking, but you know what? I put myself on a higher level than start to arguing on a porn site with an alian, who i dont know (and who doesnt know me either) about things, which never happened or happened but not by me. Maybe some day you will realize, that someone is playing with you (and unfortunatelly with me also) and than you can ask my forgiveness, because of craps you have spread here.
Btw i still cant and i think i never will understand, how could someone believe things about an other person through internet without meeting or talking with that person in real. Of course i have my own opinion about these kind of people...
And finally not you'll be the person who'll tell me what to do with anonymouses here...and unlike you, i have no clue who was the poster and telling the truth i dont really care. It just made my (well would be better not telling what type of...lol) opinon stronger about you and the other person, who was mentioned there.

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RE: looooool

You two are really making me sad :(

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RE: looooool

Dont be sad anon, we are ok now:PP

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RE: looooool

Good :)

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RE: looooool

Ok we sorted Alex. Now its the cowards turn to reveal themselves, or is that too scary for you 'a tired one'

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Late Home:-))

Two married buddies are out drinking one night when one turns to the other and says, "You know, I don't know what else to do. Whenever I go home after we've been out drinking, I turn the headlights off before I get to the driveway. I shut off the engine and coast into the garage. I take my shoes off before I go into the house, I sneak up the stairs, I get undressed in the bathroom. I ease into bed and my wife STILL wakes up and yells at me for staying out so late!"

His buddy looks at him and says, "Well, you're obviously taking the wrong approach. I screech into the driveway, slam the door, storm up the steps, throw my shoes into the closet, jump into bed, rub my hands on my wife's ass and say, 'How about a blowjob?' ....And she's always sound asleep."
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RE: Late Home:-))

loooool :)))...that joke is very similar to this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atS5Z7IWpLM

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RE: Late Home:-))

Hahaha, guys are so clever:PPPP

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RE: Late Home:-))

:)) good one Alex

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Remember - don't drink and drive!

:D

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just wondering

im just wondering if any members use other cc site,s as well ie camshags for one
any one know what are the other sites i belive there are more than these two thanks
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RE: just wondering

russian woman .com is another

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RE: just wondering

lol, ur not serious right? CC shudnt and wudnt post up rival sites.

Get a grip!

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RE: just wondering

there are a few sites that belong to CC. but they are more of adult i think. we sometimes have viewers that come to our chat or vid from these sites. go ask CC, they will give you the links i think, i just dont' remember them. g'luck !

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RE: just wondering

More adult than cc???????? hehe

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RE: tired of X IS GREAT POSTS

Oi. if I wanna post that xPETITEx is the best host here then I bloody well will.

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RE: tired of X IS GREAT POSTS

shameless ... but damn funny! :)

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RE: tired of X IS GREAT POSTS

I agree with Bananaman.

Most annoying thing here is the one line conversations.... just go to comchat, sheeeeeeeeeeesh.....

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RE: tired of X IS GREAT POSTS

lol, when I meet that host I really like... the last thing I do is a commercial no matter how great she is... maybe post in her own forum, but not here...sorry, just honest

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RE: tired of X IS GREAT POSTS

and im tired with anonymouses here! :P

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RE: tired of X IS GREAT POSTS

You don't want to even begin to know just how tired I am of Trojans, trust me. :P

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Maria Sharapova does not loves the Banana

I believe at the end of the day, personally, my life is not about a banana, its not about what I wear, its not about the friends that I have, Sharapova said testily, clearly alluding to her rumored relationship with the mens finalist Andy Roddick."

OMG the banana was in Maria's pants...........................fathers hide your daughters pls.............
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RE: Maria Sharapova does not loves the Banana

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/10/sports/tennis/10women.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin

That Banana satyr.........who could have thought such a little man could make it with this 6ft 2in. rus goddess..............

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RE: Maria Sharapova does not loves the Banana

well, all I can say is, a picture is worth 1000 words ...

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i76/i_am_banana/sharapova-banana.jpg

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RE: Maria Sharapova does not loves the Banana

Damn I'm jealous of the fruit man now............................I thought he was just your ordinary fruitcake but after this HE IS THE MAN

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Rus Girls Can't Help Themselves

I hear Maria Sharapova does head in boy/girl??? Anyone have her nick?
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Got To Know

Is it true that the Asiatic pussy slit is horizontal not vertical like in Rus????
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And nasty sharp teeth inside that bite too!

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Patient's complaint

I was caring for a woman and asked, "So how's your breakfast this
morning?" "It's very good, except for the Kentucky Jelly. I can't seem to
get used to the taste" the patient replied. I then asked to see the
jelly and the woman produced a foil packet labeled "KY Jelly."
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RE: sweetadndora is the best

thanks babe but dont go overboard....i did it for the $

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RE: sweetadndora is the best

rofl x

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RE: sweetadndora is the best

"thanks babe but dont go overboard....i did it for the $" ,,
i spoke with real sweetadndora , and she told me it wasnt her replay , she didnt even seen it , who are ? who u pretend that uare sweet?? ,

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RE: sweetadndora is the best

you are SO gullible - it was so damn obvious that it wasn't the real host replying. As Caesar himself was once heard to utter "humor in the forum is lost on neophytes and sycophants"

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RE: sweetadndora is the best

hmmm, I don't recall saying exactly that ... I may have said once "I came, I saw, I conquered" and "a 3 inch dick is lost in an orgy" ... not sure about the forum one though.

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RE: sweetadndora is the best

neither am I? ;)

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RE: sweetadndora is the best

actually, thinking about it further, it may have been Plato who said it. And I always attributed the 3" dick/orgy quote to Bill Clinton - almost makes more sense that you would have said it though Julius.

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It's beyond my control

I've decided to give up Comm Chat cos I can't think of anything to say anymore. I can't think of anything to say here either. I've also decided to avoid non-adult category vids too cos I can't think of anything to say there.

Just mindless stripping from now on for me.
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Happy Birthday, WildKitty18

You are a beautiful, fun, smart, and sensuous girl.
Have a great day!
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RE: Cat on a hot tin Roof...

lol I liked that a lot :D

Thank you Aboutit

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RE: SOMETHING IDEAL...

birds singing as the sun rises on a beautiful fresh spring morning. heaven on earth :-))))

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RE: SOMETHING IDEAL...

IRL is a blast & it can suck... it is always safer in a virtual world... but, if you need to ask, maybe its time to give the keyboard a rest and enjoy some time outside... not being mean, being honest, Miss V

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RE: SOMETHING IDEAL...

If you are talking about life then I don't think it can ever be truly ideal but I think it can be so good that the little things that are bad become so insignificant so as not to matter.

Your best friend Rik :P

Just teasing AsStarta (k)

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RE: Do u believein friendship?

my best friend in the whole world is a girl.always has been purely platonic.we met while we are clubbing & started doing lots of things together.we had both just ended relationships & just needed someone we could relate to & be ourselves.she is now married but still continues to be my confidante,as i am hers.her husband understands accepts & trusts us both & he & i have a bond now :-))

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RE: Do u believein friendship?

A friend loves you, of course; but one who loves you is not in every case your friend. Friendship, accordingly, is always helpful, but love sometimes even does harm. (Qui amicus est, amat; qui amat, non utique amicus est. Itaque amicitia semper prodest, amor ali-quando etiam nocet.)
SENECA, Ad Luciliitm.Epi$.xxxv,sec.l.(c. A. c.64) 10

Best friends & therefore lovers...
and yes it is possible even without sex...

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RE: Do u believein friendship?

That question reminds me of the film When Harry met Sally where Harry says men and women can never be friends as the man will always want to sleep with the girl.

While I think there is probably an element of truth in that, especially if the man finds the woman attractive, I do not see why you could not be in a sexual relationship with a woman (or in your case I presume a man) and also be best friends.

So the short answer is yes I think there can be friendship between men and women.

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RE: Do u believein friendship?

yes i believe in friendship between a man and woman if she will agree to mindless casual sex on a regular basis

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RE: Do u believein friendship?

The only true male "friend" is your father..................

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RE: Do u believein friendship?

of course it is possible, if saying men and women could not be friends coz the men would always be thinking of sex you may as well say women should never marry a man coz the men will always be trying to sleep with other women.
i have been friends with many women and had sex with none of them and nor have i wanted too

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RE: Do u believein friendship?

ok, but i have only every had sex with one friend. but it did not hurt our friendship, me and dave are still great mates

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Ginnie THE BEST GIrl i ever seen in my life on CC

I can not belive....Shes amaizing...real woman -real dama!!!!
It is honour for you to visit her video!!!!...:P
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RE: Ginnie THE BEST GIrl i ever seen in my life on CC

coz im not a viewer im her real friend :P:P:P this is more important :P:P:P

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passion to stone.

What I have said. That, it is done. My love and passion has turned cold, and to stone. But you know.. nothing will ever kill my love or passion. You all ask and wonder why I don't find a woman closer to me, and you all make your own little assumptions. You all have the doubts of that finding a true love over the net, and from the other side of the world, would ever work seriously. But I am telling you, that that one, the one that is willing to take a chance in life. (After all.. taking chances and hoping for the best is a HUGH part of human nature.) I will find her.
And you know.. doing things like everybody else, does nothing but get you the same things that everybody else has. I don't know about any of you, but I want different than what everyone else has. Not neccesarily more, different is bound to be enough. It will make all the difference, I am sure.
You know I am a believer in God, and you wonder why I can consider myself any better, because I too, have come to this site on a regular basis.. so, I don't consider myself better. But I know things that many of you don't choose to know. Let alone, believing.
But we all have lives in this world, some have things to do, children, families, other obligations, and possibly another line of work. We all do our own thing.. some like to party alot, go out and drink, or have a good time, or sitting watching a movie, going online, or whatever. But all you who are reading this are, in some way connected with being on the internet. Obviously.
All have thier own ambitions in life. Who's to say that someone's ambitions are wrong? It can really only be judged as how exactly it is being done to reach those goals. And how deeply we allow ourselves get sucked into whatever it may be that consumes us.
There are many wonderful nice girls here, most all just playing the part of what most humans are catering to be wanted, or wanting to be catered. And there has to be at least one, wanting, as I said, to take a chance. We only live once.
This world, we are only passing through, nothing much of anything really means much. But there are those things that mean more than we think, or give accreditting to.
Heart, life, love, and Spirit , those are probably around the top 4-8.
The first 4 are Something like.. The Word, the creation, the manifestation, and the Omnipresence of "HIM". Laws, commandments, promises, judgements, mercy, forgiveness,
Grace, and love, ALL being part of it. Including wrath.
There is too much of God's given strengths in me, to let any of what any of you say, discourage me. "I fear no evil" No weapon formed against me will prosper.
Anyways,.. I am not the one to judge, so..
I'll see you all at the judgement seat of God.
I'll be damned if I come here again.
2 Peter 3: ...2 Petru 3: .....2-e 3: .... 2 Pedro 3
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RE: passion to stone.

on a cobweb afternoon
in a room full of emptiness
by a freeway i confess
i was lost in the pages
of a book full of death
reading how we'll die alone
and if we're good we'll lay to rest
anywhere we want to go

in your house i long to be
room by room patiently
i'll wait for you there
like a stone i'll wait for you there
alone

on my deathbed i will pray
to the gods and the angels
like a pagan to anyone
who will take me to heaven
to a place i call
i was there so long ago
the sky was bruised
the wine was bled
and there you led me on

in your house i long to be
room by room patiently
i'll wait for you there
like a stone i'll wait for you there
alone

and on i read
until the day was gone
and i sat in regret
of all the things i've done
for all that i've blessed
and all that i've wronged
in dreams until my death
i will wander on

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RE: passion to stone.

What?

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RE: passion to stone.

i agree with jive!!

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off-limits

It seems some old timers returning to the forums are off limits to speak to/about.
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RE: off-limits

Well as you can't speak about them I suppose it is going to be difficult to find out who you mean.

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mmmmmmmm

Chocolate Salty Balls by South Park
Two Tablespoons of cinnamon, and 2 or 3 eggwhites
A-Half a stick of butter, meeeelted..
Stick it all in a bowl baby, Stir it with a wooden spoon
Mix in a Cup of Flour, you'll be in heaven soon
Say everybody have you seen my balls?
They're big and salty and brown
If you ever need a quick Pick-me-up
Just stick my balls in your mouth!
Ooh, suck on my chocolate salty balls,
Stick em in your mouth and suck em!
Suck on my Chocolate Salty balls
They're packed full of vitamins, and good for you,
So suck on My balls!

Quarter cup of unsweeted chocolate, and half cup of brandy
Then throw in a bag or two of sugar, and just a pinch of vanilla
Grease up the cookiesheet, cos I hate when my balls stick
Then Preheat the oven to 350(tree-fitty), and give that spoon a lick
Say everybody have you seen my balls?
They're big and salty and brown
If you ever need a quick Pick-me-up
Just stick my balls in your mouth...
Ooh, Suck on my chocolate salty balls
Stick em in your mouth and suck em!
Suck on my Chocolate Salty balls
they're packed full of goodness, high in Fiber
Suck on My balls!

[sniff sniff] Hey, wait a minute, what's that smell?
Smells like something burning
Well, that don't confront me none
As long as I get my rent paid on the Friday.
Baby you'd better get back in the Kitchen..
Cos i've gotta Sneaking Suspicion..
Oh man baby, baby! You just burnt my balls!

Someone help me, my balls are on fire!
Get some ice baby! My balls are Burning!
Give some water, pour some water on me!
My Balls are burning!
Oh my goodness, Blow on em, Blow on em, do something!
Ooh, suck on my chocolate salty balls
Put em in your mouth and suck em!
Suck on my Chocolate Salty balls
Put em out baby, Blow em!
Suck on my balls, baby! Suck on my balls Baby!
Suck on my red hot, salty, chocolate balls
Put em out baby, hoo, hoo
Suck on my balls...
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RE: mmmmmmmm

MMMMMMMMMM

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wanted

hi all.. im looking 4 a sexy and always horny lady and mature enough to make me cum like i've never blown before.. i want a real master of a nice and long blow job babes.. who just loves getting fucked by nice horny boys with a big stiff on.. i`m such a sexual maniac.. anal, fetish, domination - whatever..any takers???LoL
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RE: wanted

such a seductive offer! :D LMAO

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RE: wanted

watch out for the germs in the sperm

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RE: wanted

Thanks Imshy your a real friend.

I was wondering how I was going to afford the nursing home fees for my dear old Granny but you have solved my problem as she meets all your criteria.

Try her bj without the teeth - you'll never go back (or so I have been told).

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wow thx ihate...send her on over....just for that u can have a beer and a comic book

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RE: wanted

want coffee also to go? or maybe a big mac? or maybe a couple of million euros?

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RE: wanted

What is such an intelligent man like you doing here? I mean it kindly! :)

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RE: wanted

forgot to say, asked of INYF

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RE: wanted

I'm glad you clarified that with your second post as I would never have expected it to be to me in a million years.

I assure you I am anything but intelligent and even if I was where does it say intelligent people can't be perverts :P

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to INYF

I can only :)

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for those that use "toys"

Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace

Environmental group Greenpeace called on the European Union to ban the use of chemical plastic softeners in sex toys because they contained dangerous substances known as phthalates.

"Adult sex toys contain the same toxic substances that the European Union banned from use in children's toys," Greenpeace said in a press release from its international headquarters here.

The environmental group said it was shocked to find that seven of the eight sex toys it had tested contained between 24 and 51 percent of phthalates.

"It is unbelievable that such toxic substances can be used in adult toys. We have tested many products in the last few years but never have we encountered such high concentrations," Greenpeace spokesman Bart van Opzeeland said.

Greenpeace research has shown that phthalates can disrupt the human hormonal system, diminishes fertility and adversely affects the kidneys and liver.

The substance is used to soften plastics and PVC plastic. Greenpeace stressed that a ban on phthalates would not mean the disappearance of people's favourite sex toys as there are plenty of non-toxic alternatives
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Keep in mind that Greenpeace would take us back to prehistoric times if they could, because everythin man made is "evil and dangerous"

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RE: for those that use "toys"

thank the gods i switched to naturally organic grown potatoes

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A future CC chathost?

http://www.weaselcircus.com/videos/11.shtml
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RE: A future CC chathost?

LOL

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RE: A future CC chathost?

Wouldn't work for me :(

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Females Don't Get it On

I was cycling around my fav route yesterday and passed a herd of about 20 cows so I stopped to rest. All of sudden one of the "cows" became a bull and mounted one of the cows.

I was amazed at how enthusiastic he was thrusting away and obviously enjoyed it and had a really great orgasm at the end; his rolling muscles showed me how much he enjoyed it along with noises.

The cow on the other hand stode motionless and showed just the opposite; in fact she was still eating grass while the bull was doing his thing. There was also no noise from her like there had been from the bull so I concluded that cows really don't get much from the sex act.

I have concluded therefore that if it had not been for some european missionaries most female humans would not enjoy sex either since all primative people did it doggy and therefore did not stimulate the female clit. Another sign of human male superior intelligence..............
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RE: Females Don't Get it On

maybe cows just can't be bothered to fake orgasms

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RE: Females Don't Get it On

digesting grass takes a lot of energy

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RE: Females Don't Get it On

missionaries enjoy sex?

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RE: Females Don't Get it On

As they introduced the missionary position to certain countries to "stop the unnatural sexual position of savages" they probably didn't enjoy it as much as they should have.

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RE: Females Don't Get it On

bulls eat grass too

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RE: Females Don't Get it On

I'm fairly drunk now so this is probably a bunch of arse.... but anyway, the act of having sex is a basic animal instinct, faking an orgasm requires additional brain development in order to ensure the interests of a suitable mate. In evolutionary terms cows have allocated more energy to digesting grass than brain development, but are usefull to the dominant human species so have not become extinct. On the other hand, as complex human societies have evolved , faking an orgasm is important to ensure the the interests of the dominant male and therefore the transmission of strong genes and survival of young. Whereas you could argue that this is not applicable in todays' society, the echoes of this evolutionary adaption are evident and even can be said to drive the propensity of internet sites such as this one. Me tired, me sleep now.

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RE: Females Don't Get it On

For some reason this has me thinking about an old saturday night live routine ...

"Retired hockey players have Bobby Orrgasms. Selfish lover have I-Got-Mine-You-Get-Yourgasms." There were a bunch of them, these are the only 2 I remember after all these years.

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RE: Females Don't Get it On

I think you really nailed it...............cows dont read Cosmo either

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RE: Females Don't Get it On

I have concluded your a bit of a pervert :D

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RE: Females Don't Get it On

as far as I know cows aren't gay

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RE: about latvian girls

and who are you?

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RE: about latvian girls

Ah but maybe that is why the person thinks there is none.

You are all so secretive :P

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RE: about latvian girls

Well, young lady, you may not know, but at one time it seemed that half the girls on CC lived in Riga.

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Galaxy is gorgeous

i have spent some time with Galaxy. She is a gorgeous, warm lady that radiates positive energy and love. Anyone that admires those qualities in a woman should visit her. I think she is the best lady that i've spent time with her.
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RE: Galaxy is gorgeous

Nuh, I prefer the qualities of lethargy and hatred.

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RE: Galaxy is gorgeous

whoever said Byron could spell was clearly wrong ...

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RE: Galaxy is gorgeous

Lord Byron and I think the Mary Shelly
were married, and lived quite some time ago.
Naturally, the time period they wrote in would
be considered a trifle antiqidated from today's
style of writing.

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RE: Galaxy is gorgeous

Thought Mary was married to Percy B Shelley but I'll check!

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antiqidated?? my God, your mastery of the English language astounds me! The actual Byron quote is "hatred is the madness of the heart" - gala mis-spelled hatred and I was merely being facetious when I mentioned Byron.

The word you are after is antiquated.

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if you really are Lord Byron, and if half of the lurid tales told about you (homoeroticism, pederasty, whoremongering, adultery, and an incestuous liaison with your half-sister) are to be believed, then I seriously doubt you are calling from Heaven ...

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