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My vote is DirtyPunk anytime))

thanks for the compliment,but i suspect i'm funny peculiar,not funny haha.ohh & you forgot unclejoe & wondering :--)

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lol gem. he may not be a winner but he is a whiner or is that weiner,maybe both :--)

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dont worry no one understands tisme, but we all still laugh at him .

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my favourite comedian is the member who complained he vidded a non adult host who refused to strip

INYF!!!!!
The others don't come close.
Most of his posts make me smile :)

Thank you. I'm glad I can make someone smile :)

1. member
2. long time member
3. viewer

These are my favourites

You left off me.

I vote for WTF in his heyday....

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It`s OK

It's a good idea. It's also embarrasing for the member to be real horny and enter video to see the host eating her chicken soup. Something like a sign: Your host will be back in 30 mins. And a digital clock ticking off backwards to let the viewer know you will be back soon or no.

As I can't see any disadvantages you can have my vote.

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huh?

Why not just log off and log back on? Is it that much work to do that?

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Oh, okay, so only those who are in agreement should answer? Yes, Massa, I do as you says. I bow down and lick your boots, so's not to upset you.

As usual.... EveDesi lost in space.....

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Thanks for clarifying. Your explanatin is far clearer than UKDreamgirl's. As you know, I am lost in space. However, I still don't think it's a good idea. The suggestions given by UKDream are extended absenses. I used to host another site. Was never much problem to log off and log back on when I was going to be away more than a few seconds. It's not that its a bad idea, just an unnecessary one in my opinion.

" I used to host another site." You are/were a host? May I ask what category?

GHA was

Girls Home Alone?

Was that Shy or Not So Shy? Does that mean that you are a female?
Now you are a member?

the site I was hosting on did away with using terms Girls and Boys, and used Women and Guys. There were no Not shy or Little Shy for any categories on that site.

I know that site.

sorry. to be more specific, i'm a guy

cause we forget

NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Then host in open wont let us in. because she is stripping for someone else i say no way

lol...more viewers in video...more money. If someone want special time then pay for one to one.
UKdreamGirl -yes! It can be useful.the idea already was told. Host should have rights decline the video.

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Accept button, or no accept button, either way, you would still have to be within earshot of your computer to know that someone wants to enter your vid. If you are away doing something, you you are going to lose a customer either way, so doesn't that make an accept button redundant? They only advantage I can see to an accept button is to deny access to a rude or annoying members, but if they are persistent, it can easily be circumvented with a new account. At least under the current system, you will get something, depending on how much you charge per minute, and how long the member stays around waiting for you to show up.

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I agree because during slow times some hosts are doing other things or laying down and that way she can always be at her best when a visitor comes in. That way the visitor isn't disappointed with her state of being that was unexpected and not wasting his money or having a less than great experience. Like answering the door....she can make sure she's got herself together or come from another room. I don't think that there is too many girls here that are going to turn members away :) If they wanted to do that then they could simply use the block option.
According to CC recently member complaints are that they enter into a hosts room and no one is there. That would alleviate that problem and not waste visitors minutes.

"According to CC recently member complaints are that they enter into a hosts room and no one is there."
How is this any different than you showing as "online" but not being there to press the proposed accept button? I would still feel like I am being ignored. Then I will move on and not come back.

Not ignored just not at the screen at the moment. Seems like that would be better than paying and no one there. You'd have the option of coming back in a few and she will be there. Like a door bell :)

im sorry but i vote against, considering that it is good for hosts but its a disadvantage for members because imagine how you will feel if you have been looking for someone and when you finally find her online it will tell that she did not accept you, so i disagree....i know this work is different from any other but imagine going to the bank and the teller will not accept you,usually they put the sign that its closed....or else imagine going to buy something from a shop and the seller will tell you im sorry i cannot sell you anything now....i dont think its a good idea im sorry.
but its only my honest thoughts so if someone disagrees with me he/she is welcome to tell that im not right

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"when a member try to enter my video he will see im not there to answer and he will be back,hope so"
That can already be done without an accept button and I might cost me 50 cents or a dollar - no big deal. At least that way I can see if the host really isn't there.

well thought out & constructed.i see only one drawback with the post.something so reasoned & logical is out of place on this forum.you have now set a standard that most of us will find difficult to emulate :--)

i vote against! All u need to do is sign off then cum back in 30 minutes or 8 hours whatever, it's no big deal! Easy way is all u can leave message in your profile and let members know when you cum back online. Thats simple!

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haha i know you're joking dream.i'd be happy to go in vid & the host is eating.makes a change from the run for the door i usually get :--)

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Honestly if you're going to take a shower.....log out please that is a long time for members to keep trying you. Wonder if girls would leave themselves signed it 24 hours and sleep too....hhhmm.

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Hey, you asked folks for their opinion, then you slam them when they disagree with you. Sheesh!

You're getting all worked up for nothing, and quite offensive, too. Like someone said earlier, not everyone who replies is going to agree with your idea, be it hosts or members, but it doesn't mean you should insult them for thinking it differently.

Personally I think an accept button is rather useless because:
a) just because you're online doesn't mean you have to stare into your monitor 12 hours or however long you spend online; there's no one stopping you from watching telly, reading your Cosmo or a Kafka novel, work out. It's not like members will start running away if they see you eating a sandwich or expect you to look ready to dry hump from the first second in video.
b) you can simply take a break when you feel you've had enough for 30 min or longer to unwind and recharge your batteries or change your outfit, whatever.
c) for quick/long trips back and forth to the toilet, kitchen, door etc you can simply use the pause button.No point in leaving your session open if you're taking a nap, or a shower, and an accept button won't change that.
Just my 2 cents.

please either accept button or viewers not being able to rate unless they spend 4 min in video like on AW

Chill out....u r the one that thought there should be a button to accept so that you could go take a shower......excuse me that is too much. For god sakes sign out if you are going to be gone that long. Also many host sdo try and stay online 24 hours and let the bell wake them up from sleep seems pretty tacky to me. YOU asked and there you go. No go take a chill pill or have a drink....omg too much over reaction!! I didn't say it wouldn't be good to have an accept button...

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UKD, I'll have to disagree with your idea. As good intentioned as it may be, it causes more confusion, aggravation, and loss of members to see you. Right now, hosts do have an option to let members know they are out for a little while....the free text chat.

All you have to do is post a comment that you are unavailable and will be returning at a specified time. It is sort of like a door sign...Out to Lunch, return at 1pm but without the clock hands. lol

And for those who like to just pop into your vid without going to text chat first, that is their choice, but you did let everyone else know. However, you can display a sign on your bed, chair, or sofa that you are out for the moment. Then they can complain to CC customer support and get their response that the member was fairly warned.

Good luck to you, but I do not think CC should use your particular suggestion.

Maybe CC can design a sign (and clock) as I suggest and you can then set the return time manually, and display it on your profile, or entry page, on your text chat page, or all the above.

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Or, Getting Married -- See you in an hour. rotf

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Nope, seems more like a spoiled child who throws a temper tantrum when she doesn't get her way, or when someone disagrees with her. BTW, are you my daughter?

Damn, ED, you are brutal. lmao

Well, I suffer from ED, how else would you expect me to be? LOL

good come back. rotf

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This SEEMS like a good idea at first, but there's also a BIG problem with it, too. That's because it all comes down to HOW the hosts would start using an "accept" button. As some guys have already said, if a host really needs to take a long break -- for example, to cook something or take care of something around her apartment or even take a little time off to refresh herself -- she could simply log off. On the other hand, I understand WHY the hosts hate that idea. Because if they log off completely, then they might miss a regular good-paying customer who suddenly stopped by and now he thinks she's gone for the day (or night).

RealPornStar said: "If I log off while I do homework, I could miss someone special coming into my room". But that's exactly the problem with an "accept" button. Because what you're REALLY talking about is the creation of a button that would allow hosts to do things with their cams turned off -- like their homework -- at which point they could start to SELECTIVELY choose WHEN and for WHO they'll make themselves available. In other words, hosts could start picking and choosing when they're willing to put down their homework and start performing again.

So -- just as an example -- RealPornStar could log on, but immediately turn off her cam and stretch out on the couch to read her school books. Then when a guest wanted to enter her video, a BING would go off on her computer. At that point, she MIGHT hit the "accept" button -- IF she sees it's a regular of hers or someone she knows will spend good money on her. But, you see, that also creates a big problem. Because now that she's armed with an "accept" button, she could ALSO shrug her shoulders and say "Ah, screw it. I've gotten comfy on the couch and into my homework. And I don't feel like touching up my makeup for a first time guest. So, no chat or cam show for you, buddy. I'll just wait till someone I know shows up, where it'll be worth it."

So, let's be honest -- basically an "accept" button could easily and quickly become nothing more than a "polite" version of the ignore button. Hell, think about it -- a host could even leave her "taking a break" status running for an entire shift. Then she could do whatever she wants behind a closed cam all day long…as guests stop by, she could pick and choose who she's willing to "accept" as the mood hits her…all while never having to log off, in case one of her high-paying regulars swings by. Hey, from a host's point of view, I can see why you'd love this idea. For you, it's the best of all worlds.

Look, I know that being a host is a tough job. You have to deal with a lot of guys who treat you like crap and nothing more than sex objects to be used and abused, as opposed to the warm and wonderful women that you are in real life. And I know hosts can easily get bored or tired from sitting on a couch or bed for hours on end, trying to cobble together enough paying customers to make the day worth it. So, I have no objection to hosts taking breaks throughout the day (or night) to recharge themselves. Or to take care of a personal matter that suddenly came up.

But if Hosts want to take breaks and NOT log off…so they WON'T lose customers or a chance to make money…then instead of an "accept" button -- which I think would quickly get misused and abused -- I think Richard had the best idea. In fact, it was so freaking brilliant I'm actually stunned that CC hasn't done it already. There should simply be an option for a host to set a "clock ticking down" on her profile page, as well as leaving a personalized message ("Be back in 20 minutes, my bb honeys!"). That way a host could take some breaks as needed...she could even decide how long she wanted to be gone...but at the same time, the guests would know when she was going to be available again. It just seems to me THAT would be the easiest and fairest solution for everyone all around.

Great post, well explained. BUT I think the petition was not as well explained by UKdreamGirl. What she wanted to say was that right now CC offers a signal warning for members entering our video which usually lasts for 2-3 seconds, and immediately the viewer enters in . In 2-3 seconds, you can not come back from the other room, leave the "soup" aside without spill it over, or simply put ur bum down in the chair if you were doing god know what other things , every day things, near computer. So the result is the viewer enters almost immediately, sees an empty chair, or a host eating or finds her in a not appropriate pose and he , most of the times , is leaving. Her suggestion would have been more welcomed probably if the petition sounded like : Would you like as a member to enter a host room with a ringing which would last, for example 10-15 seconds? Of course a message would pop in telling us a viewer is requesting to enter -IT DOES NOT HAVE TO SHOW THE NAME OF THE VIEWER!!- and of course an option with yes or no should be on that pop in window, for the host to answer SOONER than those 15 seconds max, and let the viewer in . With other words, the longer sound warning is not asked by hosts in order to accept or not a particular viewer, but to have enough time to leave whatever is she doing and come back to the computer, and for the viewer to not enter an empty room and pay for a minute of video he did not have. Then , if the host returns in those 15 seconds (for example) she has the opportunity to click YES quick enough and accept the viewer, rather than the video starts promptly like it does now, most of the times with the sonor signal still buzzing when the member is already in the room.
If you think of it, its not such a bad idea, and yes, hosts will spend much more time in video and loyal fans would find us more often, and members wont find empty seats anymore , but if you do think the 15 seconds of knocking at our door dont make a difference....let us worry for that, i am confident a lot of girls would fit in these 15 seconds and everyone would be happy! (again, excludes here showering or other long time activities:P )
So, yes, i agree with you UKdreamGIRL, lets just hope CC will look into this in the future!

You filled in the details well, thanks :) I also agree that with the accept button that it would not list the members name so there wouldn't be any choosing of members. Of course as we have heard here the members fear that they will be selectively chosen or not when really the main reason for the accept button would be so that they are not coming into an empty room or chair and paying for those minutes. The idea of being prepared and not caught off guard so that we can be our best would be the real benefit to the host and member.
Of course there are always those that use things in the wrong way and so there would need to be some safeguards incorportated into
it so that it works great for everyone. My concerns are the ones that want to stay logged in while they sleep, taking a shower or doing something else that you wouldn't normally be able to do while working. Those girls need to log off and come back when they are alert and ready to work.

Thanks for the nice words,Tease -- and you wrote a great post too, that was well thought out as well. And since I'm obviously not a host, your explanation actually helped to clear up a few things. But you're right -- perhaps this whole idea could have been explained a little better at the start, so that people (in particular the guests) wouldn't have taken it the wrong way.

And you're right about another thing. If CC created this "accept" button and simply made it so a host could NOT see "who" was trying to enter her video, that would immediately remove any fears or accusations (from the guests) that they were selectively being picked and chosen -- or worse, being ignored or pushed aside on purpose. To be honest, this is not something I'm emotionally worked up over. As the saying goes, I don't have a horse in this race. But if the hosts think this idea could make things better, then if I ran CC... if I was the boss...I'd probably give it a shot anyway. Then over the course of 3 or so months -- sort of a test period -- I'd see if the hosts were using it properly...I'd see if the guests had no problems or complaints either... and then you could decide to keep it or not. As I said at the end of my post, whatever solution is presented should always be balanced between both the host AND the guests, so everyone can feel it's fair. That's just good business all around. In the meantime, best to you and thanks for the reply!

I'm not sure why CC hasn't been into this matter by now, as you probably know this button does exist on other websites and if CC was keen to adopt it, that would have happened by now...But i merely wanted to make it little more clear for the members in special what UKDG wanted to say , 'cause i was really surprised to see so many hosts against the idea for no apparent reason...if the button does exist on other places too and majority of chat hosts do work on other platforms too, why such a big issue then for bringing up the idea to this forum too? A little awkward if you ask me...
Thanks for reply too, best of wishes and a have a great week.

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i agree. log on when you are ready to work. i dont get to cook, eat dinner, change a diaper, clean the fridge when i am at work. i love how you make a suggestion, and when someone disagrees, we are just not smart enough to understand....

One big difference is that you are probably paid by the hour or job.

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How can you know how a member rated you? I've been accused on several occasions by hosts of rating them low when I actually gave them all 5 stars. In these instances I wish I could have had a 2nd vote. I actually asked cc how the ratings system worked and they gave me a very vague answer saying something to the effect that although there is not set time to be in pvt to be able to vote, but time and or money spent in pvt had a big impact. In other words a hater giving a host a 10 second 1 star would not count for much. On the other hand a long pvt would count more heavily and it is rather unlikely you have a member rate you any lower than 5 after he spend a significant amount in your pvt. Think about it

That isn't correct. A rating posted by a member regardless of the amount of time in video is automatically calculated and effects the overall rating. Not sure where you got that from but it is not correct.

Read my post again, I emailed cc and got a reply

I remember one time I visited a new host with no stars. I stayed for at least 2 hours, maybe even closer to 3. After the session, I rated her 5 stars, then went back to add her to my favorites, and she suddenly had five stars.

If she had no stars, she was new. You were her first viewer. Don't take my word email cc yourself.

I agree with all three of you girls. Some hosts here are amazing and this job is just not for all girls. If they can't make enough money working here a reasonable amount of hours a day so that they can take care of their personal life outside of here then it might not be a very successful job for them. Part of the problem might be that it is the quantity of hours that they are trying to squeeze and not the quality of what they are offering. If they can't determine what hours work best for them traffic wise and there is a lot of lag time between guests then maybe they aren't that good at what they do.
My opinion.

i would like to know where from and when people like you have decided this is a JOB?? im confused, really...If we go back to the basics, every website of this nature, CC included, advertises this chatting thing on their first page as something like" do you wanna make some money on your free time, from the comfort of your own bedroom ?"
Lets not get things mixed here girls, this is hardly what a job really means, but if some of us really transformed this chat thing into a serious job, maybe those ones really come to "this job" when they feel ready and in no need for such a button....But for the rest of us, this is just a hobby, a thing to do in "free time" and we choose weather or not we sit in front of the computer for hours or simply do other things too....And then , yes, we do need such a button, as i explained a little above this post to freelance writer.
As a P.S. it seems to me a little hypocrite from the chat hosts who were against this petition to dismount UKDREAMGIRL in so meannie ways when we all know that this button exists on other websites too and no one had any complains about it or tried to make a move in forums for its removal...So, why all of the sud some chat hosts seemed annoyed by it , its beyond my understanding...Maybe just for the sake of knocking someone over when she simply stands out with an idea...
A bit more tolerance in a violent world would be so nice.

Well if you read all the posts above here and that are posted frequently you will see this is a job or only source of income for many girls here. Some even work while they are sleeping...lmao. To you it might be a hobby but not to all.
Other sites might also have that accept button but they are also different from CC in the way that here there is Open and 121 as options. I'm not aware of that on other sites.
Also to consider all aspects of adding this option and how it will effect not only hosts but members too, is the most responsible way to look at it. UKdreamGirl went into full attack and yet all the reasons that she presented were not acceptable. To implement it so that hosts could be away for extended periods of time while they are showing online does not make sense. For example to take a shower ...how many guys would be rejected during that time because she can't hear it? What about the people that come into chat also during that time? Nobody would respond to them. Seems with that being one of the uses alone that it would be very frustrating for members. That was one of her examples. Why show online if you're not available?
UKdreamgirl went into attack because others didn't agree with all she was saying.....like it was more like a campaign rather than wanting open discussion.

And the number one question in chathost FAQ is "Can I make money at this?" Or did you miss that one? Get a grip. Anytime anyone accepts payment for services rendered, IT IS A JOB!

I did refer to money too, get a chill, or you dont want to read it all ? What angel says was that "This is a job and as in any other job u cant be at home cleaning ur house and when u wanna eat ur have a break time" and i can't agree to that in totally, cause it would be taken too serious , dont you think? Is this really a job, with the full list of demands and rights a normal job has? Come on, i think you need to get a chill pill and relax...its well explained above, if you care to read before to attack, i know its hard, but try it sometimes, it makes wonders :))

Your exact words "But for the rest of us, this is just a hobby, a thing to do in "free time" and we choose weather or not we sit in front of the computer for hours or simply do other things too....

To you this is a hobby not a job

Yes dear, im trying to tell serenangel that this is Not A JOB for all of us, as she tried to say , thats all! She made a general statement starting with "this is a job....." when its not generally true. I tried to explain my point, it is under serenangel message post not under UKdreamGirl post, even its in same thread. This is not a job for all of the chathosts, so we can have different opinions, or this is a court instead of a forum and those who dare to be different are shut off?

This is not a job for all of the chathosts, so we can have different opinions, or this is a court instead of a forum and those who dare to be different are shut off? "

You are entitled to your on opinion but not your on set of facts. If you get PAID it is a job if even a part time job you work at only a few hours week. If you did free video, then yes it is a hobby? Do you do charge for you videos or are you a volunteer?

Oh one other thing, it is ok to like or even love your job and to think of it as a hobby, but legally and technically it is a job if you receive payment. Check out job at Wikipedia.

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The problem with the petition is this: Many members, including myself, are told sometimes by girls "I don't strip." But, sometimes you can enter her video right after somebody else's very long video ends and catch her before she redresses.

Yes it's a shitty thing to do, but it works quite often. I caught a lot of liars this way, and also made some great friends that otherwise I'd never return to after being told "no."

Also a host in open video could be showing, or could be showing on another site using the same feed. Giving her the option to accept or reject a video will ruin many such opportunities for members.

To host: If you don't want to be bothered, log off CC. Otherwise consider yourself available.

This goes on a lot where a host in one of the softcore categories refuses to strip and then gets naked and nasty on another hardcore site. I take delight in going to see a host that refused me here on another site where she is required to strip. Makes my day.

Stalker? Some people get their jollies from the strangest things :)

I once entered a vid where a girl was eating a banana .... though her teeth must have been sore because every time she stuck the damn thing in her mouth she groaned and grimaced a lot and never seemed to take an actual bite. It was a terrible shock.

YESSSSS PLSSSSSS put accept button.
I even got a fine for ignoring 8 people within 1 month.

then stop ignoring them hehehehe

Who is John Lennon?

If you don't know, feel sorry for you as you've missed a whole realm of music that changed the world in the 1960s and influenced the music we hear today

I wasn't born tll the 90's

julian lennon's father :--)

Yoko Ono's husband but not Julian Lennon's mother, obviously.

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A Glam host asks a member if he would like to see her nude? I'm sorry I find that extremely hard to believe.

Why not? I do it too. Find us.:P

I have seen well over a hundred hosts in Glamour and not one ever suggested a nude show. Not one. I have seen nude shows in Glamour, but only in 121 and only after I asked ,not the host. Like the old saying, seeing is believing. And when and if I see it, then and only then will I believe it.

ANd how many times have you been back to a host two or three times without ever asking her to strip?

In some cases as many as 10 times. And usually by the 2nd visit the host assumes I or any other member just wants to talk. And in most cases they are correct. But Glamhost was disingenuous when she said after a member came back after a few visits she would suggest a nude show.

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Who said I asked him if he wanted me nude??? Wasn't me!! My exact words verbatim were:
After a couple of visits sometimes I ask them and usually they say they didn't want to offend me and yes they would love to see more but without any kind of pressure to me.

After a couple of visits sometimes I ask them "

Ask them what?

You didn't read the whole sentence........more...... was the key word not nude!! Big difference!

Yes in a courtroom. More is code for nude in the context of a porn site. Duh.

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Nudity is allowed in Glamour and I have seen many nude in Glamour.who all asked me if I wanted to see more I would have to go 121.

Agree. I have seen a lot of hosts in glam, all of them asked me for 121 to see more, and they showed all of their goodies. I don`t understand why this subject about glamour cat. is coming up in new threads everyday. So tired about it

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So nice to see a post from you! You're a sweetheart :-)

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Isn't that what non adult is supposed to be for?

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The debate is not so much because the hosts are unclear, I think, but because the members will complain no matter what, and will continue to insist that hosts do what hosts may not do in certain categories, then give bad ratings because of it, and post disparaging comments in the forums.

I don't think any clearer rules would help, because people are people.

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Hopefully you stay within the guidelines of the category and not have
the attitude that you will bring members something that the other
girls won't for that category...lol. I've heard that one many times like
you're going to get the business because you're doing hardcore in
softcore category. Makes it tough on the girls that are following the
guidelines and belong in that category.

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if hosts want change rules then many members will not spend as much money and also hosts will lose more money:(

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Why not just have all hosts in any category have to take their clothes off ... just at different speeds :P

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I posted long ago I would love to see both Glamour and Little shy be non nude. And combine not shy and Instant action into Girl alone and require nude erotic show the minute viewer asks for it.

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Whatever! From now on I will only go to Not So Shy and Instant Action. The Best Categories in CC. You can keep your rules and lose viewers. Your decision, not mine!

I still like the possibility that a Glamour COULD possibly go topless just briefly. It makes it more exciting if that's a possibility.

It might be better to have fewer or simpler categories but then we'd have one less thing to debate in the forum. :)

How about just one category for all? Glamourous, and all possibilities exist, it's up to the host to set her boundaries and rules. And every member can attemp to break them!

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It is part of human (male?) nature to imagine that the fruit that is out of reach is the tastiest and try to get it. I have no problem with members trying to push the boundaries. Just don't complain or rate the host low on the occasions when you fail.

Being rated low is a fact that certain hosts must learn to deal with if the hosts dont agree with viewers' demand. It is not fair, but we are not here representing charitable institutions. Most of the members (99%) are here looking for adult fun and hosts are here to make us happy, not the other way around.

I think that your statement is inaccurate. As a host I know that is not true. All men are different and think differently. It's an insult to members
that you feel that all men are clones of you.

It is your right not to perform to viewers' requests, however you will get rated low. Remember, the viewer will leave unhappy if he did not get what he expected. There are categories like glamour and the rules of cc say host is not obligated to show nudity, but its not the rules that set the standards, but other hosts' performances. The majority of 5 stars hosts that work in glamour get outstanding rating since these hosts perform great nude shows for members. I will not mention who I watch in glamour for a great show, but i can say she is as good or better than many hosts in Instant action.

I agree with you the majority of the members are here for adult fun and that’s why hardcore categories exist. In those categories everybody is happy no matter if you are a member or a host (or at least they don’t complain in the forums too much :D ). OldMember you won’t be there a charitable institution and for sure you’ll have a blast of good old adult fun.

Thank you Long Time Member for the explanation, yes it’s fun to try I agree with that but in the same time try to respect the person in front of you. As a member you go into her room knowing that you may not get what you want and it's nobody's fault. If your ego will be bruised maybe you should not try.

The problem is that he sees it as regardless of the category that a host should do what he wants...and that all guys think like that. It is really a difference in what turns a guy on Hardcore being simular to Hustler Magazine and Glam being closer to Playboy magazine. There are buyers for both and they are very successful but very different.

make it real easy....two categories

nude
non-nude

end of discussion

Unfortunately that would not end the discussion. It is relatively easy for a host to go nude and show very little. The arguments would continue they would just be slightly different.

I agree with YouAreNotMyFriend. I went to a host in Little Shy and I asked her in text chat if she will strip and go nude for me in 121. She said: Yes bb, all for u. I went in 121 and she started to strip, took off her jeans, t-shirt, shoes and stopped at lingerie. I said: continue bb. She answered: I can't. I asked why? she said I am already nude for u. I said thats not nude and nude for me is completely naked. She said: Nude for me is lingerie. I stripped my clothes for you. Man, I felt stupid! Now I ask them: will you go completely naked for me and no clothing on and you will remove bra and panties? LOL.

I like the category I am in. It gives me freedom of choice how behaive myself in video that I cant get in hardcore categories. Some guys like it when you are more natural and don't do things like a robot. But I can play hot if I want it too.

Your system would work fine IF CC made what can happen in each category a minimum instead of a maximum. If I go in 121 Glamour, then I should know exactly what to expect. I call for an end to the idiotic notion that each video should be preceded by a negotiation in text chat.

Move to Little shy. Problem solved

You cant see the difference in nudity and action? Not so Shy description says "full and explicit nudity is expected" but Instant Action, well it is more action than just nudity, and if you really dont know what action means, it means stuffing fingers or toys in your pussy or ass and play not just tease... so as previous post said, if u dont like instant nudity in Not so Shy, move to Little Shy, and then u can complain about members who ask instant nudity

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Ok you say you are not stupid, so why you play stupid?
but if you still really cant understand difference on Not so Shy vs Instant Action, i try explain it better...
Not so Shy - you start to strip when member ask for it, and after you have get nude, you can keep on teasing and playing, but you dont have to use toys if you dont want, i think thats what we expect in Not so Shy

Instant Action - you rip of your clothes if you not nude already, and get your toys and start to play, without slow striptease and foreplay first.

And ofcourse not all members ask for this, but this is what we can expect for those categories... so again, if you not comfortable for instant strip in Not so Shy, move to Little Shy please, to avoid confused members and bad ratings lol

Sorry but it is you who are confused and wrong. The rules regarding sexual content of what a host does in Not Shy and Instant Action are the same. The only difference is the timing. In Instant Action the host is expected to start a show as soon as the member enters and follow the pace dictated by him. However there is no obligation on the host to use toys, insert fingers in pussy, asshole or do anything else other than get naked if she does not want to. In Not Shy the host is expected to get naked but is allowed to take more time over it. She can start with a bit of chat and then teasingly disrobe at her own pace. Confused host is right to be unhappy when members expect her to strip as soon as they enter video. As she says this is what Instant Action is for.

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or maybe you just cant read what is said in "Categories Explained"
And yes, i know there is not said anything about toys, but how else can you describe instant action, and hardcore?
If you think nudity without fingering pussy is hardcore, then explain me what is softcore?
there is clearly said on description of Not so Shy, "full and explicit nudity is expected" so what is there to complain when member ask for nudity?
And if its still not clear to you, take a look and you will see that Not so Shy is on Adult Hardcore section, so again we can have this same conclusion, if confused host dont feel comfortable to strip when members ask her to strip, she should go to Little Shy category, how is it so difficult to understand?

It seems that you are the one who cannot read what is said in "Categories Explained". It makes clear there that the basic feature of IA is the time. Basically in a CC context softcore means sexy chat and teasing and maybe stripping to lingerie. This is what can be expected in the softcore categories. In unrestricted sessions hosts may show and do more than this if they wish. In hardcore categories nudity is the basic requirement but again the hosts may do more than this if they wish. This applies to both Not Shy and IA. As I said above the key difference is that in IA the member can expect the host to start her show as soon as he enters video. The real differences and limits between hardcore and softcore only really become significant in restricted sessions.

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The key phrase here is " when the Viewer is repeatedly requesting action". Stalling is not allowed but a host in not shy does not have to start stripping immediately a member enters video and may take some time to remove her clothes in a teasing way.

read again, "STALLING in an attempt to extend the Viewer's time
in video is not allowed."
and if you read confused hosts previous posts, she is very clear stating that she dont want to strip right away, because she want to keep viewer in video 5 minutes longer.
And i havent said she should start to strip right after when viewer enters the room, i said she should start to strip when viewer ask her to do that... and her problem seems to be that she dont like it when viewer ask her to strip too soon, so what else is this than an attempt to extend the viewer's time in video?

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If you ask CC I think you will find that they do not consider trying to keep a member chatting for 5 minutes or so after he enters video stalling. Read the descriprion for Instant Action. The first words are "Not got time for chit chat..." This implies that in Not Shy a member should expect a little time on chit chat.

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The problem is that lots of hosts do get naked straight away in that category and in the other "more removed from instant action" categories so it is confusing for members too.

As for me I prefer the nudity, then the teasing then the nudity. I suppose I just like to know that at the end of the teasing I am going to get the nudity.

I also had one host who told me she wouldn't get naked straight away because of the category she was in.That's fair enough so I then asked how many minutes she expected me to stay in video before she stripped. Her response was to laugh and say did I really expect her to mark off the minutes and at that magic moment start to strip. I didn't answer he and just left but had I answered my answer would have been a definite YES.

I suppose the "battle" between members and hosts will continue for many years to come :P

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I think Long Time Member was the most accurate in his answer. I am in softcore and quite often they expect instant nudity as well...lol. I have absolutely nothing against Instant Action (as a member accused girls of in viewer forum) and it is for the one minute guy who is on a budget and horny clock :) I think that is great for those that aren't happy with an instant porn video. The other categories are intended for different guys with different tastes. Some just haven't realized that the whole site was not designed for instant nudity....there is definitely something for everyone and some just don't realize they belong in a certain category. I don't think you are the one that is confused but those members are.

Perhaps it would help if you indicated in your profile the minimum minutes until the erotic portion of your show begins. It might help eliminate the misunderstandings that seem to plague you. ;)

There are many hosts who have things like "Please don't expect me to get naked 1 minute after you enter my room" in there profiles. They will tell you it does not stop guys asking.

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Move to Little shy. You are NOT a hardcore host. Far from it

I absolutely agree with your statemnet "You would not approach a girl in RL and ask to see her chest for .50 would you."

As it's real life I would offer at least 1.50 :P

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Don't know what bearing this has on my post, but I'm a guy. No, scratch that, the world is full of guys; I'm a man. A man who likes the pretty ladies at this site, and some really good power pop like my friends in Rooney perform.

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glad rags = best clothes

"change into glad rags" = put on ur "good going out clothes" no patronisation there at all

.. wow you learn something new every day :)

Just to add to the intrigue - there's a really great Rod Stewart song called "Handbags and Glad Rags" from his early '70's period, and it was used as the theme song for the original UK edition of "THE OFFICE" with Ricky Gervais.

Great song.

It may help in getting some members to read a host's profile but, I suspect that , it would not really help with the ratings.

don't wanna waste my time going from profile page to videochat selection window then back to profile page to start a video. if I click on video chat, I want it to start pronto

Fine with me. I always read the profiles. To be honest though - I find that most profiles aren't very informative because many of them say the same thing.

Turn on: Kind, polite, strong, sensitive, generous.
Turn off: Rudeness, one minute men.
My show: Hot/Sexy
Why am I here: Sexy fun and to meet people from around the world.

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"That is not even worth commenting on!!"

But you did :P

1 star to the both of you

Oh well that's better than the 0 stars I was expecting :D

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Okay point taken :P

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I agree.

seating on her ass the whole vid guarantees 0 (zero) star

If I enjoyed my time with a host I will rate her five stars and visit again.

If I don't enjoy my time with a host I will rate her four or five stars and not visit her again.

I suppose that there are potential situations that would cause me to give a host a poorer rating but I have never experienced one.

BTW: those hosts who want to rate members should post their member ratings in their private forums. My guess is that most members will stop visiting them, but I may be wrong.

I would amend that and say...a host who agrees to do what was discussed in free chat in a timely (not too fast or too slow) manner is a 5 star girl for me. If a host refuses to do what she said she would in free chat, if she tries to re-neogtiate the deal during paid video, or if she clearly stalls....1 star...only because we can't give 0.

Well stated.

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I'm referring to the 5 star, no comment system. I have to agree with you that rating after only a minute should not be possible. However, for the most part, I think the system is fair.

"we change the rating system." Correction, not we but Camcontacts change the rating system. I somewhat agree with you but would prefer we could comment on the host in addition to simply rating by a 5 star system.

My use of the term "we" is in the inclusive sense of this community, not that "we" the viewers have any power to do so.

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I disagree. The ratings is there to guide prospective buyers of goods and services offered on line. For example if you were thinking about buying a computer or web cam you would want to read comments from those who have purchased the item or items you are interested in buying.

You obviously have no idea how the rating system negatively effects the hosts because it is only based on the last 10 viewers that decided to rate her. By that fact alone instead of it being accumulative from the beginning ....a hosts rating can change dramatically by just one person for what ever reason deciding to rate low. Could be he is not happy that she didn't strip in softcore, or another host, a studio boss trying to make their own girls look better, whatever. Can be honest or vindictive. Also like was said above, there is no minimal time that one needs to stay in a hosts room to be able to rate. The combination of the two makes it totally inaccurate unfortunately.

I think its the last 50 viewers. And 99% of the time I rate 5 star as do most members

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I don't use the rating system at all. This decision is not based on whether I decide a host is good, bad, or indifferent, but the rating system in itself; that is, an algorithm is employed where history from day one to the earliest has some importance while the last few carry more importance. This methodology can be dramatically affected by one or two good and bad stars.

In addition, the member is not offered privacy. Granted the host is not given information on who rated them after a performance, but it can be easily ascertained by the last rate and the last visitor.

Yes, the current rating system is simple to use, but that is where the problem lies -- too simplistic to offer anything genuinely acceptable to all.

I know some sites have rating systems from very involved to inadequate, but CC should have never included it. It is not that kind of place and is what makes it different than the rest. CC offers that personal touch, while the bigger players offer more data than anyone really has time and patience to review, and pushes quantity rather than quality.

CC's business model has worked for a long time and I am a believer not to fix what is not broken.

And, yes, I do read the profiles and review the photos. Any member who does not is just asking for trouble.

"And, yes, I do read the profiles and review the photos. Any member who does not is just asking for trouble"

I agree 100%. Problem is some profiles are very vague and sometimes all you see if smileys.

That is true, and another reason to be cautious. But, then, there are the novelettes -- those who are writing their thesis and think more to better.

Well, that bit of info is outside my realm of perspective, and nothing to do with the overall point of my original post. Personally, I have trouble believing it is only the last 10 because I do not see ratings changing all that frequently. But since I don't know, I'm not able to comment about it. How is it that you know, btw?

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well if you want to nitpick and take the meaning of my words beyond what I intended, who am I to stop you? go right ahead. I think it was quite clear that I was referring to the 5 star system as being adequate and fair for the most part. I was not in any way referring to CC's method of using only the last 10 ratings, though you chose to make that part of my statement.

I usually never rate the host because I'm afraid to see how much I just spent! And I don't open the billing emails that come later. I just don't want to know.

Buyer's Remorse? LOL I share your anxiety!

I tend to agree. The majority of us rate five stars most of the time so it is reasonably fair for hosts. Every host lives with the same system. The algorithm could be tweaked but it basically works.

As for hosts rating members - it isn't going to happen. That would just drive away members. Hosts who think otherwise are mistaken.

It is against cc rules to mention a viewer's name in public forums

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Fail to see how it can be "well said" when I have no idea what it's meant to mean. "Manner in your kitchen"...its gibberish!

it means she spends too much time in the kitchen (ie shes fat )
it was a bitchy comment

No, it was just plain rude and uncalled for.

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I have a cock that is bigger than those you are referring to.

now thats well said

...and you are talking manners hey hey GO F* yourself :)

good one.

Very good. The only down side is that my testicles are black and the test results to find out why aren't back :(

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I would suspect Generous would be the most popular trait.

That comes from another site with a Top Member feature. No thanks

No thanks. How about if we rate the hosts with more than stars? Like "Host is [X] Rude, [X] Time waster, [X] Gold digger, [X] Attractive, [ ] Unattractive, [X] Teaser but no show, etc. Then members would have more to go on than stars as they peruse the pages of "Who's Online"

I'd be up for it :P

However, I suspect there are some members, that would take the fact that they were at the top of the rude list as a badge of honour.

it would b a head to head race with me and u :p

Better to be considered rude than boring, I suppose.

No, I think Johnz would top the list

How many people would continue spending their money at a business that publicly rates them?. "Attention Shoppers - Mrs. Smith was rude to the butcher day so she only gets one star. Epic fail Mrs. Smith.:

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It takes real talent to be me

Do you mean you dont have that kind of ratings in Chathost Only Forum?

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lol
why don`t you go one step further?The rudest member must pay a 3 hour-session to the topmember of the month LMAO

You have to pay to vote like we members do. Cash talks and bullshit walks!

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seems you forget one key factor...we pay YOU. you dont pay us. car dealerships, retail stores, walmart...doesn't rate the buyer...they are happy to have the business.

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Next the girls will be dictating how long we can stay in a session.

They do that now

The biggest fault in this system as a behavioural correction device is that its success depends on me giving a crap what people here think.

I say do it.

some of us want to stay anonymous and wouldnt participate or even care about it....

Why does a member always come up with the worst case scenerio? Sheeesh. I don't know what would bring up a message like that but maybe it is a technical problem and she is not aware of it even. Why not when in doubt ask the host?

I've also seen that and seen more and more hosts using password protected sessions. I don't think they know that every business needs new business. Their regular viewers can't carry the whole load.

My question would be why would they want their room to say unavailable for 121? All I know is one night after no one came into
video for over an hour (which is very unusual) finally one of my regulars came into chat and asked me why they couldn't come into my 121 and I had no clue what was going on. That is why I say that maybe they are not aware that it says that.
About the password protected....I use that sometimes when my regulars can not get into see me because others are taking me into video constant and so I set up a time to meet them and make it password protected so that they can not get frustrated with trying to come in. I don't know that any of the girls use it all the time. It's kinda like being given the VIP treatment if you've been a loyal customer. I think all the girls welcome new visitors...but I can't speak for them. Hope that gave you more insight and from a hosts perspective.

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It was a technical problem so I had to log out and log back in and
then it was fine. Very strange!

It depends on how many regulars they have. It is also important for a business to take care of its existing customers so they are not tempted to go elsewhere.

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grannyhilda....oh how i miss her (RIP)

She told me I was the only one :(

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jennys is one of the best mature hosts

Yes Jennys is amazing, one of my favs.

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I been in her pvt a few times. She looks gr8, classy n very good sense of humour.

Over 21 is mature for me ))

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I m rather mature girl and I hope not a bad host ..hehe

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Marmite (pronounced /ˈmɑrmaɪt/ MAR-myet) is the name given to two similar food spreads: the original British version, first produced in the United Kingdom and later South Africa, and a version produced in New Zealand. Marmite is made from yeast extract, a by-product of beer brewing.

The British version of the product is a sticky, dark brown paste with a distinctive, powerful flavour, which is extremely salty and savoury with umami qualities, somewhat comparable to soy sauce. This distinctive taste is reflected in the British company's marketing slogan: "Love it or hate it." It is similar to the Australian Vegemite and Swiss Cenovis.

The distinctive product was originally British (1902), but a version with a different flavour[1] has been manufactured in New Zealand since 1919, and this is the dominant version in New Zealand, Australia and the Pacific Islands.

The image on the front of the British jar shows a "marmite" (French: [maʁmit]), a French term for a large, covered earthenware or metal cooking pot.[2] The British Marmite was originally supplied in earthenware pots, but since the 1920s has been sold in glass jars that approximate the shape of such pots.[3] A thinner version in squeezable plastic jars was introduced in March 2006

Agree sounds YUK

"sticky, dark brown paste with a distinctive, powerful flavour" -- sounds like body excrement, except subsitute "flavour" for "odor" LOL

mmmmmm marmite on toast....luv it..unfortunately cant get it in holland :(
so if anyone is feelin generous and wants to send me a jar or 2...feel free :p

kinkydiva might have a jar for you , only used once .

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collecting it next week
i'll b a happy bunny once again :p

It's not too bad if you use a small quantity on toast.

Hate it. Heinz Sandwich Spread is the deal :D

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omg your not meant to eat it, it's for re-waterproofing boots

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It always makes me laugh when women talk about wanting a rich man to take care of them or pay for things. You say that men only want to fuck or get sex for free, but from the male point of view too often women seem to only care about money and material things and nothing else. I guess I'm getting old and times are changing in the world. I remember a time when the MOST important thing between two people was being in love and committing to each other -- for better or for worse, in sickness and in health, and for richer or for poorer. In other words, you take what you get because you genuinely love the other person, not because of how big their bank account is.

well said

I agree with you, but i think the orginal post is a joke and scathing irony.
Because I really dont think modern women are thinking those ways at all. At least I hope they dont..

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you have not been on cc long it seems

I'm a material girl

Hey rich men...

I love your money!!! :P

xoxoxoxo

Why nott u play LOTTO prize game? lol That would be helpful for you? :P:P:P

wow it seems some girls want to think of themselves as independent yet the only goal is to find a rich man and use him and pretend to love him for cash maybe it is me but is this not prostitution on a higher scale pretend to love and be with a guy not for feeling but $ location whatever

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The most riches a man has his is heart, honesty and emotions.

you sound like a poor guy who doesn't speak english ;)

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Sad that you think that money will make you happy and also that someone else should provide for you. Where is your heart girl? Why would a man be attracted to a girl without a heart? They aren't stupid
like you think they should be.
Are you from Romania by chance??

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That is the most stupidest statement I have ever read here... and that says a lot.lol.

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When I win the lottery I'm going to get a girl like you :P

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Any girl that asked me for money would suck :P

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Being rich is like being beautiful. You try to avoid people who are interested in you for superficial reasons .

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I had money once, then I found CC :(

I'm confused. You said "we only talk in our privates" but then said "she talks to me elsewhere". So which one is it? Do you always have to pay to spend time with her or not? Does she only talk to you when she's online and working or does she make time for you away from work and in her off hours? The answer to those questions will pretty much tell you how she really feels.

It really isn't that difficult to understand. It is both..what he's saying is he only talks (not plays) in privates, not that is the only place where they talk. No contradiction. The rest of what you say has some sense.

Don't count on it. For many (most) hosts here it's just a game they play to get you back for more privates. If your still paying to see her after two years it's doubtful anything will happen. The ones who are serious will not want you to spend your money in privates (there's other ways to "help", wink) and they'll spend time with you by other means. If she really, really likes you, she'll be chatting with you (and rather be) while she's in a video with a paying customer.

"so there must be something of a chance, right? "

No chance.

"Unlikely" is right. If it's been 2 years and you're still paying just to talk to her, that's probably not a good sign. However it is a sure sign of a host who knows how to flirt just enough to keep a guy interested, so he'll keep coming back and she can get more privates. That might hurt to hear given the feelings you've developed, but you wouldn't be the first guy to fall for a host batting her eyes and pulling the old "I like you, you're not like the other guys, we should talk more" trick.

"Huh" hit the nail on the head. If she's actually interested in you (as a person and not as a wallet) then she'll show it by making the time to chat with you away from work and for free -- the same way that any woman you met in real life would show an interest. So, if your Host is off the clock and she's making an effort to talk to you... to actually spend time and be with you... that's when you'll know she's sincerely interested in you, too.

On the other hand, if a host only finds time to chat or act friendly when she's online and working... when it's completely convenient for her... that's a pretty good sign that she's trying to reel you in like a fish whenever business is slow. Bottom line -- this is an online FANTASY world and it's far too easy to imagine things or get carried away. So keep your head clear and just think about the way that people act in the REAL world when they're REALLY interested in each other. If she's acting like a REAL woman would, then you're golden. But if she's not, then you're just another guest to her. So good luck and I hope it works out for you!

So damn right what you wrote

Every newbie to the cam world should be required to read Freelance writer's post so they don't get taken or let a host rip out their heart. What he wrote is the cold hard truth. Real love and friendship takes effort and work. And it shouldn't come with a price tag attached.

Thats right. Everybody should get it at least. Impossible to buy love for some money. It's need much more efforts. Not fair expect love from host if all that you did just push the button and spend some money for seeing her naked. If you pay for a show you get a show...not a heart.

agree money cant buy heart. but why so many hosts tell guests they r interest or love them when they dont really mean it? is lyin to make money more importat then hurtin another person? not right to do!

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Oh, i don't do it. But if other hosts play the game "I love you" probably because members like to hear it from them. Just don't take it seriously...relax and enjoy. :)

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Then WHY are you still here!!! If he loved you he surely wouldn't want you shaking it for all the perves. He'd take care of your needs until you're together forever.

Perhaps he cannot afford to take care of all her needs. And maybe he also respects her wish to support herself and be as independent as possible. Just because he accepts her working here does not mean he does not love her.

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It could work out. My graduate school was loaded with girls from all over including Russia and a few met, fell in love with and married American men. Of course it was a bit easier when the girl came here. The guy was able to date her, get to know her and fall in love with her. When the girl is in Russia and you are in the USA you better have the time and money to pursue a romance. You would need to go there and she would need to come here. That last part requires a visa. More time more money. It can be a difficult process to develop a relationship with a foreign girl. Then you throw in the CC factor. Is she taking you for a ride or is she actually interested in a relationship? Is she willing to leave her friends and family and live here? Can she adapt to our culture? Again only time and money can speed the process along.

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Welcome to cc too. I hope you have a lot of fun here.

I like your name

I wonder if she has a tight ass?

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ewww..old perv!!..lol

At his age it's only jealousy :)

Though I didn't visit you nor anyone else today, it's nice to hear such thoughts :-)

Thanks for the nice show!

Who dat?

Obviously I never visited you.

I hear you! At least you didn't change into a specific outfit which took heels and nylons while you have 5 other guests in chat waiting for their turn to come into video and when he comes in he tells you how beautiful you look and thanks you and stays 3 minutes!!!! I'm not changing outfits anymore unless they want to sit in my 121 while I change :)) Or I am open for any suggestions to include don't bother :)

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I have to admit that I would start off asking "Do you had any ......" before getting more specific. Although it may seem like it, saying any in a question like that doesn't always mean that you are happy to take any of the particular item. So saying "Do you have any heels?" is really the same as asking "Do you have heels?"

Also if I try your way I could say
Do you have red stockings? Answer - No
Do you have green stockings ? Answer No
Do you have and so on

You must be a Brit host

All I ever ask for is nudity and then get blocked for asking. What's up what that?

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Im not agree with you dear. Sometimes it takes more then 1-2 minutes for text chat, all depends on what is conversation about :) If a guy asks something like 'tell me what will you do for me how will you dance how will you strip' etc he will be ignored for sure :) For all other situations - why not to chat? If you are busy you always can explain that, and if guy wants to continue conversation he will join your video :) Im not a customer, but if I would be the one, I would never visited a model who says me something like 'videochat or bye'
Just my point. kisses

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))))) Some viewers are slow, thats right, but nobody ask you to wait for their answers, you can chat to another guys at the same time )) and you wont feel your time is wasted then )) And what for me, I NEVER tell what exactly I do in show. If guy wants something special - he will get it (if his ask is ok with my show style for sure)) if he wants 'just anything' - he will get 'just anything'
But I will repeat, it is just my point, and my style of work. But we all are different ))) kisses

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LOL!! Quite astute of you Sean, originally from the UK, now in Canada. And Souldancer, I hear you. I for one do like to find out what someone likes, wants, is 'into' in text chat, but there needs to be a limit. It certainly does not take ten minutes to let a host know what you are looking for and for her in return to let you know whether or not she can oblige. The majority of My guests are not text abusers, but it only takes a few every day to turn your mood.