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I hate the idea of controlled prices. I never complain about prices. If I think a host's rate is too high I don not go to vid with her. Let the market rule.
The idea of a partion is quite good - if I can use it to keep the forum whingers away.

Your name just about sums it up.

See ConsumerReports post below as to why I think the price setting on cc is just fine the way it is.

I think it is a great idea. Now prices are all over the place. I used to check out a girl to see if she is hot. Now I check the price first. If it is too high I won't even look at the pics. Why bother. I think it is a good idea for CC. With 150 dollar plus a barrell oil coming in a few weeks and possible 5-6 dollar a gallon gas by the fall it will help members budget and still enjoy CC.

if you seek a partition I think having categories does that - if you mean a apetition then you will have those seeking cheap sessions supporting you - why is it that always it is about price etc when you have the choice - think of it as a chance to explore in fiding what you want as if prices are contolled most will still complain that a particular host should be in this price not that when she has the choice to set what every she wants. Anything here is a choice and let it be an adventure to exercise that choice. Too much regulation is the thing that increases price not reduce it

CC is the cheapest site and members keep complaining abt high prices...

CC is the budget site in many ways and draws members who would otherwise not go to any site. If it is divided by price the high priced girls can have their own little world and all the members here who call people cheap can spend a fortune there. I don't see the problem. If you are making as much or more than you were a year ago good for you. Just charge what you charge and haul in the money. If you are making less then pay attention.

i wonder what the overall average price is. mabe little tech can help us. lol.

...he has a lot of specialist knowledge but that doesn't make him the sort of geek who would know that answer.

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Let the hosts set their prices as they see fit. Then the member can decide if the price is worth the value, much like shopping for anything. Free market process at work; go figure.

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this is just stupid...if some girl wants to charge$5/min in non adult and there are people who want to pay, so be it. there's no reason for the non stripping people to be punished because YOU think they should be. CC is a free market site where the girls run their own business and set their prices to their own needs and what business they are seeking. enough of this infantile socialistic whining

Well Done! Give that man a coconut!

...the coconut is to stick up his ass? ;P

i think i could give you a run for your money...

mmmmm some1 crazy like me! lol

Hood, i have found only 1 girl on this site who loves to watch me play with my toys..and her name is Shezel. A wonderful woman. And VERY talented. check her out sometime. She is working today.

aren't you people afraid of damaging your sphincter muscle and then needing to wear adult diapers the rest of your life?

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not at all eww. I dump like everyone else. I pity you people who have never tried it. Nothing feels better!!

...i am being pitied by a geezer who sticks lumps of plastic up his khyber!!

don't knock it till you try it. And btw, im 32!

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this thread reminds me of that episode of south park where cartman discovered that he could eat things with his anus.

no need to worry. When it's time for adult diapers it's time for a new fetish game called "Oppss, I crapped my pants"

its funny how everyone thinks that by playing in this way.. that u will need a diaper... for the record...U DON"T! its all about knowing 1's limits.

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thats because men have little common sense and will always commit the same errors of judgment throughout their lives.

They are the ultimate in scammers and they string men along while the clock is ticking and they are making money.

Doesnt matter where the girl works.....if u like her persenality and attitude she can be in "Friends" or "Dungeon",,,,... i would go see her anyplace..... i've been in "Not Shy" lots of times...but didnt see the host naked....not coz she's not beautiful.....but coz of respect of her work and the person she is......ok ok...i know...im nuts....enjoy girls and guys:-))

respect?? that word is NOT in the vocabulary here!!!!!!!!!!!!

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you must give us more info if you are truly "consumerreports". price, looks, show quality, host attitude, host's responsiveness... the magazine always has various subcategories so we need this too from our consumer reports... and of course, she needs the "best buy" symbol next to her name too. :)

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It was just a joke... duh!!!

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Agreed...I am a regular visitor to this fine woman. Only part I don't agree with is that you say it is quite difficult to get into her show. I never have a problem. Seems like whenever I am in the mood to visit her, she is always available and I think "why is this lovely not in video??!!". But you know, for just a few more cents a minute, I always choose 121 with her, which is still a greater bargain than you will find anywhere.

With all the new sites like this springing up it's easy to find a low cost pay per view girl.

Once again. Lower your price and men will flood your video and you will earn more $5 pieces than you will know what to do with. I should run for president. A chicken in every pot and a cheap video on every PC.

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My dear lady...in your category I am sure your price is reasonable. I didn't check before I responded. But I think the idea that lowering your price will bring cheap short videos is not true. Lower prices generally mean longer videos and more faithful viewers who become regulars. Sure you will get a few quick hitters but I suspect you will get a larger more loyal following. Again if people know.

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stop complaining girl. do what you want.

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I think you will find that if the host has already got 28 out of 30 puzzle pieces, she is having no problem finding custom at her current price:-)

Now that was a good point.

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The probab.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz sorry I fell asleep reading that.

sad to have to do this work at that age.

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you missed the point but thats to be expected.

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my point was mature women usually have a moral compass and not submit to this type of work...but the opposite would be true in your country more.

If that was the point of your original post then I'm not surprised she didn't get it.

Was your "moral compass" malfunctioning on the day it directed you to this site ?

i'm not profiteering from this endeavor...perhaps you r.

i love you "INYF":) MUAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

yes mama...defender of all hosts...lol

Not a popular category for many of the members here. If they want to see a grey haired, fat saggy women they just have to roll over in bed and look at their wife.

wow you guys are cruel....lighten up

Welcome back you fruity young lady.

Yes I would definitely agree with that. Whilst money cannot buy happiness in itself it can certainly help to enhance it or as you said at least let you be unhappy in nice places lol.

yeah...and if u've ever been to some of these places...yuck!

maybe but being broke is a good recipe for unhappiness ;)

Money can't buy happiness, but people without money are still angry!

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In a way it's kinda right that rich people dont worry about bread and food and where to get food -yes.
But lol, what they don't mention is what type of problems rich people have. Like for example: if i live in a penthouse and you live in a flat, you living in a flat (depends on you of course) you can hate me for being more successful and find other reasons but the true reason would be you hating me for something you dont have.
People think and say everyday: Bill Gates should give his money to me, or donate the money to our club..
People always expect too much from everything.
The more you have, the more your famous the more enemies you have or people that dont like you (or just haters).

If rich people have less worries then you probably talking about the poorer class rich :).
Also just to let everyone know, the rich people that are respected most by everyone are: The rich people you meet and have no idea that they are rich. They dress up casually, they don't wear most expensive watches, they dont flash bling, They just try to blend in to the crowd like normal people, and because they not flashing anything expensive or some high tech gadget, everyone has high respect for them.
Also all this could be said again in another way

We always want something we can not get or have. Women, cars, bikes, planes, jets, clubs, being rich etc...

This message is from someone experienced his life from being Extremely poor to not so extremely poor at all :)

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P.Hilton was born rich and is a spoiled brat (or its her image but somehow don't think so)

But look, i dont wanna go deep into details. Let me say and kinda confess.

My family was extremely poor, i mean as poor as it gets.
Although your right about when it comes to cancer troubles thats true yes, but it's still kind of generalising because there are many many reasons and i cant mention all.
Im not saying it's better to be poor or rich, i want to say that both sides have cons and pros.

I wanna say this though, We had much better life when we were poor.
I would love to give up everything i have to return to that past.

I havnt seen that program, but they cant be 100% correct because:
We are all different, we all have different lives and different exceptions.
Everybody can talk and make diagnostics and analysations
But they have to live in both shoes and i dont mean only one person too.
We all have different lives and destinys, also even when it comes to medicine, heres a few problems a rich man can face too:
1: you go to an expensive hospital and they all talk and most probably worst then a normal hospital.
2: Many people have cancers that still cant be cured for any money, (happens a lot, even in the family) (my).
When your poor you do more research and most probably someone already recommended you something good. In the rich world same thing could happen but it can be just someone elses gossip and go and get ripped off.
If you dressed poor and walk through a dangerous alley you just be a local unless your unlucky. If im walking in the same spot and dressed rich i will get mugged and beaten up unless im lucky.

People don't wanna kill or kidnap average Joe, but if it's some Joe with a big account worth few millions, people who are capable of such things, to them it's a walking treasure chest.

Just analyse this, rich are more targeted, more hated, more judged, taken advantage off, people and i mean almost all people always search and hunt for a rich sucker! Every shop salesman wants to rip off riches..
And still im not saying rich are better.
Im just saying we both have ups and downs.
It's tough being rich and it's tough being poor.
Life is hard and tough thats why.
Please don't think it's easier though, We both have ups and downs, we both share deep secrets that we won't tell even on the Documentary programs. But yes! It's nicer to have money, but as long as not everybody knows about it. If money could buy happiness then fights over money wouldn't exist.
Again we were poor and now we're not. When your poor people hang out with you and want nothing from you and when your rich you don't know if they hanging with you because they like you or because they can use you. (Sounds harsh but many people are really like that)
and when you poor you dont get those fakers much and you also see the other fakers and how te rich guys fall for their sly tricks..
Money doesnt buy happiness.
But you still can control your life and make it happy being poor or rich.
Unless your just unlucky in life and you know what? If you are, the time will come and it will change for better one day.
The real lucky and happy people are the people who never had big tragedies in their lives or had but few.

And when it comes to expensive hospitals that can cure almost anything usually have minimum of 3 years queue for those mega super operations.

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Interesting. I too am well off but dress like average person. No expensive jewelry or car. Modest house. But I can do things like travel, etc..

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A lot of money can make you worry about the strangest of things - a rich society hostess complained the biggest problem in life is to find suitable table placemats!

If anyone has enough money to be unhappy in a nice place - I'll be happy to take their money so that they can be happy in a not so nice place. =)

Good girls go to heaven but bad girls go everywhere.

... "Diamond" David Lee Roth of Van Halen:

"Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a yacht big enough to sail right up next to it."

That is very profound.

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okay hosts, when you have 29 and have taken everyone else's money, contact me and i will come in to get the last piece, we split the prize, and then i spend all my winning on you so you get $1,500 ($1000 plus 50% of my $1,000 from videochat with me). Any takers? :p

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...for posting, because i had a look next at your archives, i could fall in love with your eyes xx

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Good point. 121 was originally intended for privacy not a requirement for show.

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If you can make more money on other sites,
why do you work on CC then?
I think CC is great the way it is though!

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What do you consider a "reasonable price". Any host in "not shy" has to be ready to do some sort of show in open video. You can find many for $0.75 - $1:00 a minute here. If you want a lower price than this you are not looking for a reasonable price, you are looking for cheap.

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that they will do something special in 121
many times ive had hosts say i only do that in 121 and didnt.
a few hours searching isnt much spend more time searching and you will find a few that are happy to show plenty in open session.
keep in mind many hosts are clockwatchers and take thier time to get into it , so i suggest you keep a close watch on your clock and set a limit such as if she doesnt do X in 5 minutes, you leave.

As for the girl saying we pay less here on CC than in other sites, yes, generally speaking, we do.
But in other sites you don't have to deal with the 121 non-sense, the non-enforced category "guidelines" - and get benefits like watching video preview, recorded videos, and buying time by volume with discounts.

All in all, i spend more in other sites since the 121 rule came into existance. Because, as it is now, "little shy" and "glamour" are the most expensive categories of them all, because you need to spend a LOT of time with the host and THEN go to 121 which more often than not, 100% over the base price.
Which in turn leads to other sites being cheaper. You can even get to see the same girls do a show for a lower overall cost, since you spend less time with the "yadda yadda it's against the rules" here.

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Same here. Totally agree.

Not everyone wants to jump immediately to a show every time. I sometimes like to chat, flirt, be teased for a while, then have a show. Why should I pay a 121 price for the whole video. One of the reasons for the increase in hosts who only show in 121 is the number of rude members. Many times when a host is in video other members join and start giving conflicting requests/instructions. Some hosts manage to handle this in open vid. Others decide it is simpler to only show in 121. Not the orginal intention of 121, just an unintended consequence.

you are misinformed dude.

..and i think you have just proved his point.

In what way am i misinformed?

if not doing anything means not getting nude in not so shy or instant action, tell cc

why you go to open at all?! u have text chat for inquiring?! for me 121 is for giving attention to one man! open is to get to know person! and i need both!

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UhhOhh... after reading all posts here i am soo sad. Uff reasonable at 0.75 for adults? Guys, girls get half of this, so i kind of und why they dont wanna do anything in open. It's like stripping for nothing and sometimes for memb who are not even nice to them.
Anyway... i need to learn this line 'only in 121' lool. It's not my style but hmmmm if it is about complaining, i would complain also about offering instant action in not so shy category and of course at less price. But isnt it better to enjoy the great moments here? We all want to have fun and relax :))

Mwwuah for all ...happy or unhappy of u lol

I guess it comes down to this question. Host are you making as much money or more on CC as you were a year ago? If so then keep your prices where they are? If not consider lowering the prices at least during slow times of the day for you. Members are you doing as many or as long of videos as you did a year ago? If so then the new prices don't bother you...if not then chances are you are not a happy camper.

And girls if you do strip and give a show in open. Put it in your profile. It is very very good for business.

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i dont usually agree with you but this time i do. members get very angry to see there faves giving a lower price to others. i have lost many that way. btw, one cool feature another site has is notes for viewer. wish they had here.

I would like to see a single price for hosts and have host divided into categories by price. Have a nonadult and adult section divided by price. And if you want 121 it is .50 more per minute across the board.

So if a host is in the under 1.00 category in adult I know she will do something adult (I think that should be spelled out in a section of the profile...like lingerie, topless, nude no play, all, etc.) I go to a video I know what I am getting for the price and if I want privacy I pay extra.
Make it easier and quicker to find a host and get a video.

You basically want to make CC like every other site here. Lots of rules. Certainty of result. No fun. CC's appeal for many hosts and members lies in the flexibility and quirkyness. It really does try to be a community not just a strip and wank site.

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Some girls prefer open, as they can have 4 or 5 members at once at $2.50 each. More than they can make on One2One at $4 to $6! I think that's the style of a few i remember, TellMe.. and some others too.

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well...some do not forgive and forget..sorry to hear about your troubles...i suggest forget about her...move on, plenty of other nice host here willing to block..lol

funny obi

blocking is done 2 easily .

dont worry bout it move on its her loss..loads of members get blocked for no reason...i get blocked all the time...in fact im blocked from an entire studio just coz one chick there said im an asshole (ok thats true i am) but they dont need good reasons to block..they can they will they have..live with it

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then tell me who she is and her coworkers so i can be sure not to see any of them

you seem to be looking for friendship, friends forgive.
these ar workers you havent paid your dues yet, move on to another girl, learn from your mistakes here.

1. why do u care so much? forget about her. i understand the ego being hurt or maybe even caring too much for a host, but given how she is acting, sounds like you are better off without her unless you did something horrible in which case she is better off without you :p
2. if u just want to see her body, just make a new account, tell her u don't have a cam, and go see her with the new account and enjoy :p

Since a host is not in physical contact with a member and in most cases does not even see him in video she has to rely on his typed words. Based on that she comes to like and trust the member. She relies on the member to be truthful and honest. When she finds out he is lying then the only basis she had to like the member is gone. That is why they get pissed...kinda.

ur not telling the whole story, ur coming here and trying to sound innocent and victim-like, try telling the truth "everyones friend" or should it read fiend?

Set up very lost cost video (say .50 minute) and I am sure you will get the puzzle pieces in a matter of a few hours. Am I a genius or what?

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Errr...yeah it does. You will get a constant stream of men doing 10 minute videos for $5.00. Easy, fast way to earn you pieces. Price has everything to do with it.

Economics 101.
The LOWER your price, the MORE people will be able to see you.
The HIGHER your price, the LESS people will be able to see you.

Wether they WANT to see you or not, is NOT important, since COST tends to be the only restriction.
That said, what's better? Sit in front of your computer for 8 hours, and get 2 members, for a total of 20 minutes at $2 per minute?
Or would you rather spend 6 hours in front of your computer, and get 10 members for a grand total of 200 minutes at $.80 per minute?

If two hosts are equal in terms of quality, the market says that the one who charges less money, will get the most members, and in turn, more profit - because most likely she will spend less time idle in front of her computer, as opposed to the one who has to sit for hours and hours and hours with no viewers at all (remember, the higher the price, the less amount of people that can afford you ;))

Some girls RISE their prices when they get no viewers, in an attempt to try and compensate for their income loss. Honey, you're doing it the wrong way, since this is a market, you have to lower your price to make it affordable forr a wider amount of customers. If you start getting a lot of viewers, THEN, increase the price!

For all of you who don't believe me, do a test-run.
See how much you earn PER HOUR at your current price, during a week.
Then lower your price by say, 20%. And see how much you earn PER HOUR for a week.
If you used to earn more before lowering your price, it's plain and simple: your price was right for the market.
If you start earning more when you lowered the price, that means your price was OVER the current market value.
If you're doing bad economically, you will lose little trying this :))

Oh, and make sure you do it in a PER HOUR comparison. An hour in front of the computer with no members, is an hour wasted - you could be doing some other job and earning a lot more (opportunity cost), or simply put, you could be reading and having fun with your friends. Not to mention for all the girls who work at home and have to pay their Internet Provider, electricity, etc (or for the girls who pay on a per day basis to their studios).

Cheers, and rock on!!!

ok now you economy man tell me why i didnt had any guests when my price was 1.00:)?!
u all just talk, talk, talk! u man go to all sites and do you think its fare to have diferent price here and at other site - i mean lower here then there? i dont think it is! my viewers get same show at any site for same price - even cheaper here if view likes to chat and flirt!

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I for one would have gone to your video for that price if I had known you were lowering your price and if I was home. If you are going to do that you should advertise it so people know. Or set a particular slow time every day. Say 1-3 eastern time your video is xx cents a minutes. Advertise that. If you lower your price and dont tell anyone you are expecting men to just stumble upon the lower price. You could send a mail out to all your past customers. A few good hosts do that. Keep a list and send out CC mail. I miss you. Come see my new pics. Or...what gets me. Come see me and I will give you a half price video if you stay for 30 minutes. All good business. Price is everything but price without advertising is nothing.

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I love this woman. She is priceless.

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er...scrub my name off that list....im more hated than admired...just the way i like it :)

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hey..you forgot me

obi, of course :P

yeaaaaaaaa....im an all time great member...where is my award...lol

Is this meant to be ironic?
*self-assured enough not to be envious of anybody

Well, bully for you, my congratulations!

I go on CC binges every now and then, after which I disappear for awhile once I get it out of my system, My most recent binge has been about $8,000 in 7 weeks. I get so much love during these periods of high-volume use, only to be ignored by most of my "friends" when I cut back. Strange how that works, lol. But sometimes I do end up with a real friend that doesn't expect video or anything so that's always nice. Then you know that the host actually cares about you as a person, not as a big fat wallet.

Absolutely, I met 2 good mates and a woman who is still a major part of my life -- CC is what you make it.

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incomprehensible

What the about the always here again gone again here again WTF, Well, etc. etc. Talk about someone who is hated and loved.

oh you mean the current bazooo...long vacation this time

you speak English?

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you certainly can't read it. envious?

You are like the creepy kid who would remind the teacher she forgot to give us homework.

you've used that comment before, didn't make any more sense at that time than it does now, but hey try using it again maybe you'll get lucky

wow, ur like just not much to write home about

the statement is quite clear. can you read.....simple declaration that the man is still here......duh

ummm hello? what about me? geez

paco you don't get mentioned as it goes without saying that you are one of the great members. haha

cmon paco, I remember a complete thread devoted to you once - now THAT is fame!

Welcome back.

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welcome back Myst...i'll come annoy u soon :)

As a member, I would not like anything that encourages me to spend more than I already do. I spend enough already, lol. Also, flagging members for hosts also raises issues in terms of member privacy. I do not necessarily want everyone to know how much I spend because then hosts expect me to spend more just like casinos expect me to gamble more for comps. On the other hand, if CC wants to give me a discount for spending more like another site I know does, I would of course like that.

I'd rather see the option to buy by "time volume" for a specific host: 30 minutes with a 10% discount, 1 hour for a 20% discount, for example.
It's better for the viewer, and it may be useful for some hosts (the one who don't want it, should have the option to not allow it).

.... 5 hours with 100% discount :D

how about 20% goes to the cost of the shrink ur seeing to treat your addiction??

CC sees itself and the Ebay of Porn. Their business model is to provide the means of matching willing buyers (horny members) to willing sellers (cash strapped hot girls). For this service they take a percentage of the sale price. Of course the more sales the more money they make. They must police the site going after members and hosts who are not playing according to the rules. They attempt to increase business in general with contests and special promotions but anything that rewards some more than others always has to be paid by someone. I think it is up to the host to reward high rollers with extra perks....free videos, hotter videos, maybe some off site action. Neither CC or the hosts will go along with anything that erodes their income long term.

good idea but good luck. none of these hosts know economics 101.

Indeed, they seem to ignore most of the aspects of offer and demand. If they have no videos, they increase the price, for example... They ignore there's hundreds of other girls in the "market".

I'd like the "volume" packages with discounts, because i never have videos of less than 15 minutes. 20 minutes is what i consider short, for Instant Action.
In little shy i used to go over an hour on average.

In the old days (a year ago) I would do far more and longer videos. Now they are less frequent and much shorter. Prices are just too high. I understand the value of the dollar and inflation and all that but with food and gas going through the roof the only thing I can cut back on is spanking the monkey.

funny stuff...except she might well ask for a car.

lol That was so bad it was good.

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funny thing how people desire things that either r not available or in fact r not good for them. that in fact is what makes this site go 'round and 'round and 'round. foolishness!

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not talking for him you or anyone else...simply relating my personal experience.

lol you obviously know me very well :P

lol It's nice to know that I'm third on your list after Imshy and Erling :P

To answer your questions :- No, A pulse, No :D

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Thank you very much for your kind words :) Now if only I knew who you were :P

lool....who's list?...dont think im on any list of that kind....but thanks:-)))

I dont like shy at all and not sure who the other one is, ok let's say I dont really love you but very attracted to your personallity. Sad you aren't looking, wanted to believe you may be my fate :)

Oh to be pursued for once and not forever pursuing... woof woof.

See INYF? dont even know me......ur in the lead here...enjoy it man:-))

better to not b known than not liked tho erl :p

Okay I will :D

Have you heard of the expression "A fate worse than death" ? Because if I was your fate that's what you would get. :P

But if I ever start looking I promise you will be the first on my list :) (K)

oh John, they love you.

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Good :) Being hated I can handle.

Yes I did remember my ym password but now I think I've forgotten it again :P

But I'm sure one day I will actually send a message.

made that mistake once INYF......DON'T DO IT

lol war. Is that the being hated or the sending a ym ?

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too bad...i dislike all the shaved beaver trend...and desire return of some modestly shaved pussy.

u need to look around more honey, plenty do

Contact xHairypussy......

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very little choice per se...only a couple offer this.

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im here dear , ask please .

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i like them modestly trimmed...not total bald eagle...which is so fashionable these days.

contact me on CCmail . if it really important for you . kiss

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who pays for the call?

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Half of the girls with phone symbols do not do phone and generally didnt know a phone symbol was there. By far the girls I did phone with did not have a phone symbol. They were willing to let me call their cell phones. They also said they did not want to talk but they would listen. Pretty hot if you ask me. But my point is the symbol is no guarantee and the lack of a symbol means little as well.

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Host should consider having two phones... or at least two sims... One for CC and one for personal use.

The CC phone rules (set by the host) could be that the viewer only gets the number after he is in video so she was sure he would go into video. Of course, he could leave right away, but that would not matter because the host would not turn on her CC phone until he was actually in her video and saying he was calling, and the phone would be turned off the second he leaves video. That would prevent 1.000.000 phone calls from viewers. Also, I believe that most phones allow sms to be turned off and to make it so voice messages cannot be left. This would prevent harrassment by viewers. Finally, there are phone in Europe (I know of none in USA) that do not need credits on them for but a viewer could call and the host would not pay.

The only risk with my plan seems to be that a host would need to buy a new phone if she wanted to keep her personal phone on at all times and not change sims and also that two viewers (one in video and one that already had a number) would call at the same time (which seems unlikely and it is easy enough to change phone numbers for the CC phone if a viewer became a stalker and waited for another member to enter video -- a host could only give numbers to members with cams to prevent repeat stalking if the number is changed). Also, phone could be an incentive to go 1 to 1 and offered there exclusively. I don't think that I am missing anything, but hosts let me know. And of course microphones that actually worked and didn't take up too much bandwidth would be another alternative.

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did a lawyer write this up?

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of course that all do have them! i've had that "game" played on me numerous times...shear insanity...so of the bs that goes down here.

even more stupid is this foolishness the member wants to call and the girl doesn't have to talk just listen? why does this remind of teenage boys making crank dirty calls? can we assume ur one of those?...lol

that could be...iam not into phone calls but merely referring to the fact that hosts lie about possessing a mobile.

shouldn't be a big deal to anyone..actually her answer that it's not for cc was better though. if i was a host i wouldn't want a lot of these freaks having it eitther

do you even like being here?

the girls are very nice. the guys, not so

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