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CC Relations in a nutshell....
A while back I noticed that a host I had known well had returned to CC. We were "friends" in the sense we chatted a lot in and out of videos. I knew a bit about her life and she mine. I looked forward to spending time online with her. We knew each other and spoke often for over 2 years. Then she left. No goodbye. No keep in touch. But...that is the CC way.
So...about a year passes and she comes back.... I go to chat with her...hey...it's me. Who? "Bob from Boston" (named changed to protect the innocent). Who? Bob from Boston... and I related a few things we had in common and joked about and things I knew she liked....Oh yeah she said. Want to see me in Pvt? And that is CC in a nutshell...
So...about a year passes and she comes back.... I go to chat with her...hey...it's me. Who? "Bob from Boston" (named changed to protect the innocent). Who? Bob from Boston... and I related a few things we had in common and joked about and things I knew she liked....Oh yeah she said. Want to see me in Pvt? And that is CC in a nutshell...
RE: CC Relations in a nutshell....
Yes my friend we are but on line ATM machines to hosts. I expect nothing more.
RE: CC Relations in a nutshell....
Excuse meee, but I had the opposite situation : there are guys who spend a lot on adult sites and landed in my room the second time forgetting they was already visiting me back in a while. This can happen only to very very VERY horny guys, mostly when they are distracted by a stressfull job, but it happens.
Anyhow, it.s easier to make them feel good when I already remember them with their likes/dislikes and obviously it.s a challenge to make them remember me for the future, I converted wonderfull regulars after such fun sessions.
Anyway, when a guy asks me "do u remember me" I ask him back if HE remembers me :))))
Anyhow, it.s easier to make them feel good when I already remember them with their likes/dislikes and obviously it.s a challenge to make them remember me for the future, I converted wonderfull regulars after such fun sessions.
Anyway, when a guy asks me "do u remember me" I ask him back if HE remembers me :))))
RE: CC Relations in a nutshell....
Does being rude come natural to you or do you have to work at it?? I guess that you expect every guy that reads that thinks that every host is about the money when I think that many hosts are much deeper than that... Why don't you use your screen name so the 5-15 guys don't bother you!!
RE: CC Relations in a nutshell....
Yes. I almost never remember about short sessions with different guys. But I always remember about long sessions (as it happen rarely). So if you a viewer wants to be a special for a host he should do something special...for me it can be long (not less than 30 mins) camtocam sessions at least some times (3 for example) in a month... it's enough I remember a guy a long time. More popular hosts might need more. :)
RE: CC Relations in a nutshell....
"But I always remember about long sessions (as it happen rarely)"
And a long pvt is what 30 minutes pus? And if your price is $4 that comes out to $120 for 30 minutes. I'm guessing you're a softcore host. That is an expensive talk.
And a long pvt is what 30 minutes pus? And if your price is $4 that comes out to $120 for 30 minutes. I'm guessing you're a softcore host. That is an expensive talk.
RE: CC Relations in a nutshell....
I am softcore host, but I am not only chatting in video and my price is never 4$ always about 2$ in open.
RE: CC Relations in a nutshell....
"I am softcore host, but I am not only chatting"
You sing too?
You sing too?
RE: CC Relations in a nutshell....
Same to you...use your screen name so guys under 30 minutes don't bother you! You hosts are money mongers....not happy hosts!
RE: CC Relations in a nutshell....
I was recently in Constanta for a week visiting a host that I met for the first time over 6 years ago (this was the third time we've spent about a week together). The weather, the sex and the overall quality of her company (she's very funny) were great. The most entertaining part of these trips, however, is her stories about some of the lunatics she has as customers - the stories are sometimes hilarious, sometimes bizarre, sometimes sad and occasionally all three. This, for example, blew me away: her best customer over the years has spent over $70K on her in video chat (her net being 35% of that - she works for a different site). Does anyone else not find that amazing?
A True Story
Many years ago on another site I used to visit 2 girls from The Phillipines in non adult category. And over time really wanted to see both naked. After a little over a year both started to try the adult category on some nights, but after chatting so long in non adult I could not bring myself to ask either one to strip. But one of the girls opened a room in the nude category on another site and I went there signed up using another screen name and got her naked. And after waiting so long and so much anticipation, I was disappointed. I won't go into to detail, but she didn't look as good as I had imagined.
I never did see the other one naked. It never dawned on me to open a new screen name on the original site. But that was back in the early days of cam sites and things were very confusing to me. Well they hosts are still confusing , but I have most of the sites down by now. And there's more.
Back in the early days I put way too much information on my email and yahoo IM. and the girl I saw naked moved to the USA. And she had my home phone number form yahoo IM. And yes I got a message on my answering machine. Luckily for me I got the message before my wife. Whew close call. That was years and we still have the same number. I have no idea what ever happened to either one of these girls, but the moral of the story is do NOT give out personal to any host on any site and be careful what you put on your IM services and avoid Facebook completely.
I never did see the other one naked. It never dawned on me to open a new screen name on the original site. But that was back in the early days of cam sites and things were very confusing to me. Well they hosts are still confusing , but I have most of the sites down by now. And there's more.
Back in the early days I put way too much information on my email and yahoo IM. and the girl I saw naked moved to the USA. And she had my home phone number form yahoo IM. And yes I got a message on my answering machine. Luckily for me I got the message before my wife. Whew close call. That was years and we still have the same number. I have no idea what ever happened to either one of these girls, but the moral of the story is do NOT give out personal to any host on any site and be careful what you put on your IM services and avoid Facebook completely.
RE: A True Story
maybe the moral of the story is not to visit porn sites if you're in a committed relationship
RE: A True Story
you are 100% right! I am in a committed relationship and I want at least half the women I see every day!
RE: A True Story
agree with the above. If you're in a committed relationship (married?!) you shouldn't be in places like this. Its as real as cheating in my eyes. If you are, then something is wrong in your relationship and it should end.
RE: A True Story
In a pure moralistic sense you are correct.
But life is rarely that simple. Consider just the following few possibilities. I am sure there are many other reasons people come to places like CC.
1. You have not had sex with your spouse for years. I can think of many reasons why and I am sure you can also.
2. Your relationship is more or less dead but you wish to stay together for the children or just simple economic expediency.
3. You and your spouse have vastly different desires for frequency of sex.
It is true that these reasons may be examples of rationalizations or excuses for immoral behavior.
But on the other hand places like CC are a safer outlet than a full blown affair or hiring a live sex worker. And studies have shown that when men have access to pornography rates of sexual crime actually decline. I am not saying most men on this site are sexual predators. I am just saying that people have sexual drives and they will surface one way or another. And those drives don't have to be just for sex. They could be drives for other types of intimacy. CC provides an outlet in a relatively safe environment.
And where do you draw the line? Is flirting with a co worker cheating?
Is it it cheating if a married woman pictures a movie star while masturbating or having sex with her own pudgy smelly husband? Is picking up a copy of a "dirty" magazine at the store and paging through it wrong?
If only life were black and white.
But life is rarely that simple. Consider just the following few possibilities. I am sure there are many other reasons people come to places like CC.
1. You have not had sex with your spouse for years. I can think of many reasons why and I am sure you can also.
2. Your relationship is more or less dead but you wish to stay together for the children or just simple economic expediency.
3. You and your spouse have vastly different desires for frequency of sex.
It is true that these reasons may be examples of rationalizations or excuses for immoral behavior.
But on the other hand places like CC are a safer outlet than a full blown affair or hiring a live sex worker. And studies have shown that when men have access to pornography rates of sexual crime actually decline. I am not saying most men on this site are sexual predators. I am just saying that people have sexual drives and they will surface one way or another. And those drives don't have to be just for sex. They could be drives for other types of intimacy. CC provides an outlet in a relatively safe environment.
And where do you draw the line? Is flirting with a co worker cheating?
Is it it cheating if a married woman pictures a movie star while masturbating or having sex with her own pudgy smelly husband? Is picking up a copy of a "dirty" magazine at the store and paging through it wrong?
If only life were black and white.
RE: A True Story
Thanks to all who replied, but I did a real bad job at trying to get my point across. The point I was trying to make is that in some cases you can go the extremes trying see something (as relates to cam sites an non adult host nude) and be disappointed in the end. I continued on in my true story, even I put my point across but kept going just to finish my story. Her call to my home had nothing to do with my point. Sorry I did a very bad job at communicating.
RE: A True Story
Actually you did a fine job of communicating. The post responses did drift a bit and I contributed to that. I should have started a new string. Frankly I thought you had a pretty interesting post compared to others.
RE: A True Story
Those are excuses. Any problems in a relationship should be dealt with, not ignored by indulging in other men or women. And staying together for a child in a bad marriage isn't necessarily a good thing. Studies show that it can actually be bad for the child, hell he'll grow up having a warped sense of what a relationship should be like because his parents had a fake one.
Everyone just wants to have fun, so rationalize away. When i'm with someone, i don't come here. If i did, then i shouldn't be with them because they aren't satisfying me, and i'll break up if that doesn't change.
Its definitely not the same as just seeing someone and wanting them, as another poster said. You can hardly control that, but you can control logging on here, and paying someone money to do things your wife or girlfriend should be doing.
Everyone just wants to have fun, so rationalize away. When i'm with someone, i don't come here. If i did, then i shouldn't be with them because they aren't satisfying me, and i'll break up if that doesn't change.
Its definitely not the same as just seeing someone and wanting them, as another poster said. You can hardly control that, but you can control logging on here, and paying someone money to do things your wife or girlfriend should be doing.
RE: A True Story
First off you have to kind of laugh when you consider we are debating morals on what is by and large a porn site.
(My apologies to those folks in categories that are just looking for friends or marriage prospects.)
Anyway your comment on rationalizations makes sense. Motivated reasoning and cognitive dissonance are likely to be the death of the species.
But that being said I would still have to say I respectfully disagree. Your post suggests that if your partner can't supply your needs then it is time to break up the relationship.
My experience has been that all relationships of all types are pretty much a compromise. Because in real life nothing is perfect. I have been "in a relationship" for many years. And it has been many years since we have been physical and it is likely we never will be again. Suffice it to say there are some really good reasons for this situation. And yet that does not mean the relationship should be tossed. And I just don't think remaining totally non sexual for the rest of my days on earth is going to happen.
I wish you the best with your choice. And honest to God I respect them. I just hope you don't end up burning through too many relationships. Because sooner or later every partnership hits rocky spots for whatever reason.
And since we both seem to love studies I will leave with this. A study in the US finds that 70 percent of guys are visiting Internet porn sites at least once a month. And what really surprised me is that 30 percent of women are also.
(My apologies to those folks in categories that are just looking for friends or marriage prospects.)
Anyway your comment on rationalizations makes sense. Motivated reasoning and cognitive dissonance are likely to be the death of the species.
But that being said I would still have to say I respectfully disagree. Your post suggests that if your partner can't supply your needs then it is time to break up the relationship.
My experience has been that all relationships of all types are pretty much a compromise. Because in real life nothing is perfect. I have been "in a relationship" for many years. And it has been many years since we have been physical and it is likely we never will be again. Suffice it to say there are some really good reasons for this situation. And yet that does not mean the relationship should be tossed. And I just don't think remaining totally non sexual for the rest of my days on earth is going to happen.
I wish you the best with your choice. And honest to God I respect them. I just hope you don't end up burning through too many relationships. Because sooner or later every partnership hits rocky spots for whatever reason.
And since we both seem to love studies I will leave with this. A study in the US finds that 70 percent of guys are visiting Internet porn sites at least once a month. And what really surprised me is that 30 percent of women are also.
RE: A True Story
I just wonder, where did you read about those kinds of drives (sexual and other forms of drives for intimacy)? It's kinda serious question. You can consider me a curious student:) Sources in English are ok.
And I still wonder...what could those reasons for staying in a relation which does not fulfil your needs be?... I am pretty sure though, you won't answer, but I'll try:)
Is it perhaps because you don't have a real life substitute for your partner?... I mean the one who has the the qualities of your wife plus sex, intimacy etc what you lack in a relationship. Or is it your complacency and disbelief that things may be better in another relationship? Or are these hard-core reasons like economic dependancy, children... cannot come up with more:)
thx
Regarding myself... I am in a relationship and I don't know whether it is the one I have always dreamed of:)
And I still wonder...what could those reasons for staying in a relation which does not fulfil your needs be?... I am pretty sure though, you won't answer, but I'll try:)
Is it perhaps because you don't have a real life substitute for your partner?... I mean the one who has the the qualities of your wife plus sex, intimacy etc what you lack in a relationship. Or is it your complacency and disbelief that things may be better in another relationship? Or are these hard-core reasons like economic dependancy, children... cannot come up with more:)
thx
Regarding myself... I am in a relationship and I don't know whether it is the one I have always dreamed of:)
RE: A True Story
I was and am always willing to fill or at least try to fill my partner's needs, but kept being pushed away (that marriage lasted 20yrs plus and it ended for many reasons, but the icing was when i found my partner on a sex site right after repeatedly turning me down). and in the few other relationships other than that, i was cheated on, and yet each time I was more than willing to try and fill my partner's needs, even to simply having sex at all....lol....so needless to say each relationship was ended. No i am not angry nor bitter as i would rather be alone than be played for a fool. ANYWAY........
Many say they in relationship but not getting needs met, while some answer with well why be in relationship.
I believe that if two people are happy together even if a need is not being met then stay where you are, if ur both happy with how things are.
We all know that often a need is not being met either because one is not liking sex any more or cant have sex with their partner.
as well as other reasons ...such as the appetite is too much for her or she not give it to me enough or she went to the store or is at work and i horny now and refuse to wait till she gets home, or i a selfish person and want my cake and eat it too.
but also a need is not being met because either one or both partners do not talk about the need and how to resolve, so the one not getting the need met stops trying and just continues on with life and ends up on sites like this OR FOR SOME having sex in real with someone else.
i do see both sides and i understand both sides, there are pros and cons to both.
HOWEVER, in all the responses i have read on this thread, some say it ok to be on here when u have someone and some say it not and others dont care either way.
One thing that has not been mentioned or asked is those of u that r in relationship and on here having ur need met, does ur partner know you are on here? and if ur partner does not know ur on here why not? a bit of a contradiction when it comes to honesty in the relationship don't u think?
People are so worried about how they are feeling and what they are not getting with their partner, yet no one seems to give a rats ass about the partner who has no clue that their mate is on a sex site having the missing need met so to speak.
I would much rather my partner and i talk of the missing need and find a way to resolve it, if that is possible. But I would be in no mood to talk of resolving or having any understanding if i found out that my partner was going behind my back and having that need met.
I just find it odd that all this talk of relationships and being with that person threw thick and thin, and how some would dump someone if they found out about something in the past that happened and how no one wants to share their partner nor have the negatives images or thoughts of what their partner did in the past, and how some would want to know if she or he did a gang bang or had slept with many, but no one has hit on how the person who has no clue that their so called partner is even on a site like this. That really says alot of how those of u in a relationship think and feel about ur partner and the relationship.
Anyway just a small observation, and i am sure i will get those of u giving ur opinions and and comments objecting to what i have said, but one thing you wont be able to do is in your heart deny that what i have said is a valid point, something to consider and possibly even true.
Best wishes to everyone.....:)
Many say they in relationship but not getting needs met, while some answer with well why be in relationship.
I believe that if two people are happy together even if a need is not being met then stay where you are, if ur both happy with how things are.
We all know that often a need is not being met either because one is not liking sex any more or cant have sex with their partner.
as well as other reasons ...such as the appetite is too much for her or she not give it to me enough or she went to the store or is at work and i horny now and refuse to wait till she gets home, or i a selfish person and want my cake and eat it too.
but also a need is not being met because either one or both partners do not talk about the need and how to resolve, so the one not getting the need met stops trying and just continues on with life and ends up on sites like this OR FOR SOME having sex in real with someone else.
i do see both sides and i understand both sides, there are pros and cons to both.
HOWEVER, in all the responses i have read on this thread, some say it ok to be on here when u have someone and some say it not and others dont care either way.
One thing that has not been mentioned or asked is those of u that r in relationship and on here having ur need met, does ur partner know you are on here? and if ur partner does not know ur on here why not? a bit of a contradiction when it comes to honesty in the relationship don't u think?
People are so worried about how they are feeling and what they are not getting with their partner, yet no one seems to give a rats ass about the partner who has no clue that their mate is on a sex site having the missing need met so to speak.
I would much rather my partner and i talk of the missing need and find a way to resolve it, if that is possible. But I would be in no mood to talk of resolving or having any understanding if i found out that my partner was going behind my back and having that need met.
I just find it odd that all this talk of relationships and being with that person threw thick and thin, and how some would dump someone if they found out about something in the past that happened and how no one wants to share their partner nor have the negatives images or thoughts of what their partner did in the past, and how some would want to know if she or he did a gang bang or had slept with many, but no one has hit on how the person who has no clue that their so called partner is even on a site like this. That really says alot of how those of u in a relationship think and feel about ur partner and the relationship.
Anyway just a small observation, and i am sure i will get those of u giving ur opinions and and comments objecting to what i have said, but one thing you wont be able to do is in your heart deny that what i have said is a valid point, something to consider and possibly even true.
Best wishes to everyone.....:)
RE: A True Story
You raise two questions. The first is about human psychology. And although I have taken courses in psychology I am not a psychologist. I don't think I have space here to do the subject justice. But we humans have needs beyond food and water and shelter. We are social. We need a group to belong to. We want to feel special. We have both kind aspects and cruel aspects. And frankly we are sexual. Just like all creatures. If you want to read about a species that is really interesting, read about one of the two species of chimpanzee called Bonobos:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo
I sometimes wish that our species could be more like the Bonobo. More peaceful and with a lot less hang ups. One of the things they do to facilitate social lives is use sex as a bonding tool.
On the second point it is a bit complex and delicate. And I am reluctant to give specifics. Suffice it to say she was damaged
by another person. So physical relations are not good. But in all other ways the relationship is good. I just believe there is a lot more to a relationship than sexual needs. And I will not toss a person aside because it lacks one aspect. It would feel very cruel for me to do that.
Ultimately I suppose the writer who said I was rationalizing may be correct. The only reply I have to that argument is that to
totally suppress my sexual nature for decades is not achievable. I can honestly say I have never "physically" cheated on her with another woman. But I guess in my imagination I have.
Believe me I wrestle with this issue.
Thanks for all your comments and once again my apologies to the guy who started this thread. The conversation kind of drifted away.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo
I sometimes wish that our species could be more like the Bonobo. More peaceful and with a lot less hang ups. One of the things they do to facilitate social lives is use sex as a bonding tool.
On the second point it is a bit complex and delicate. And I am reluctant to give specifics. Suffice it to say she was damaged
by another person. So physical relations are not good. But in all other ways the relationship is good. I just believe there is a lot more to a relationship than sexual needs. And I will not toss a person aside because it lacks one aspect. It would feel very cruel for me to do that.
Ultimately I suppose the writer who said I was rationalizing may be correct. The only reply I have to that argument is that to
totally suppress my sexual nature for decades is not achievable. I can honestly say I have never "physically" cheated on her with another woman. But I guess in my imagination I have.
Believe me I wrestle with this issue.
Thanks for all your comments and once again my apologies to the guy who started this thread. The conversation kind of drifted away.
RE: A True Story
Well I cannot add much there. If she is ill- that's the fact.
On the other hand, people tend to manipulate others, telling that they feel badly which is really creepy. Especially when they want something from you:(
Thx for telling anyway. Next time I meet a guy who seems to like me but does not do any steps further- I will try to be moderately considerate, knowing that many things can happen in life...
And thx for the Bonobo thing- it is an unusual approach))
On the other hand, people tend to manipulate others, telling that they feel badly which is really creepy. Especially when they want something from you:(
Thx for telling anyway. Next time I meet a guy who seems to like me but does not do any steps further- I will try to be moderately considerate, knowing that many things can happen in life...
And thx for the Bonobo thing- it is an unusual approach))
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RE: Happy Birthday Casablancka!!!
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RE: Happy Birthday Casablancka!!!
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RE: Long Fingernails
Personally, I don't like long nails and sometimes get turned off by them if too long, but if you're into that, YourLust had some long nails but she's been gone for a few monhs. You could add her to your favorites in case she comes back. I've seen some others with profile pics of long nails at times but I can't remember any off the top of my head.
RE: Entering an ongoing session - questions
sometimes its fun! even in non adult, hosts will often be naked, or at least haing fun. Some hosts seem to like it,and get excited. maybe by double money!
RE: Entering an ongoing session - questions
In non-adult getting naked?? I don't think you understood the question.
RE: Entering an ongoing session - questions
My opinion is, unless a member chooses 1-2-1 upon entering or at some point within the session, then he/she has no right to complain about others entering in. I do believe the host should give first-come/first-serve consideration to members who were there first, but that does not mean ignoring the later arrivers. The talented host will strike a gracious balance between giving precedence to those who have been in session longest, and those who come after. But please don't ask me to say how to do it -- I have no idea! lol
As for the member who complains, well, that's too bad, he/she should have selected 1-2-1 when the chance was there.
But, where I have seen this problem exacerbated is the person who arrives late who has no consideration for the member who is ahead of him, and butts in as if it is his own private world, expecting exclusive treatment, rudely disregarding others.
When I enter session, I usually go first into guest chat to see if the host is busy with someone else, and ask if it is okay to enter video. If she says "wait" I wait, if she says, "come on in" I come on in, but text her only in private messages so as not to disturb the other viewers (unless I know I am alone). I am a firm believer that the person ahead of me has precedence over me, and if a show is already in progress (I greet the host in private, and then enjoy the show without requesting or conversing, until the host acknowledges we are alone, or she addresses me personally.
That's just me, but I think it is the best approach, out of courtesy to both the host and other viewers.
As for the member who complains, well, that's too bad, he/she should have selected 1-2-1 when the chance was there.
But, where I have seen this problem exacerbated is the person who arrives late who has no consideration for the member who is ahead of him, and butts in as if it is his own private world, expecting exclusive treatment, rudely disregarding others.
When I enter session, I usually go first into guest chat to see if the host is busy with someone else, and ask if it is okay to enter video. If she says "wait" I wait, if she says, "come on in" I come on in, but text her only in private messages so as not to disturb the other viewers (unless I know I am alone). I am a firm believer that the person ahead of me has precedence over me, and if a show is already in progress (I greet the host in private, and then enjoy the show without requesting or conversing, until the host acknowledges we are alone, or she addresses me personally.
That's just me, but I think it is the best approach, out of courtesy to both the host and other viewers.
RE: Entering an ongoing session - questions
Very well stated. Hosts should give precedence to the first guy in open but try to include others, and the first member should have chosen open if he wanted exclusivity. It seems pretty logical and fair to me, and I've posted the exact same thing before. Unfortunately, not all members understand this. Also, some hosts will defer too much to the second guy a lot of the time too in order to make sure she can get his money and basically start ignoring the first member. A good host, however, knows how to keep everyone happy.
I don't know how to communicate with a host already in video when I'm in text chat, however, since most of them don't allow this option. I usually try to wait until she is alone so I can be the first in video, especially since I like to give my cam, but if a host is usually busy, I will do things according to how you explained and enter open even if the host is already with a member.
What I hate is when the other guy stops typing publicly. It is distracting, and, if he's talking about how hard he is and stuff, disgusting. And if using the full screen option, every time he types publicly, it makes the chat window appear which I f-ing hate! CC needs to do something about that.
(In case you didn't know, click in the chat window where you type and then move the mouse cursor ABOVE the window, preferably being to the left or right so as not to block the pic, and the window disappears in a few seconds if nobody, including some rude idiot, types. It only appears when someone types to you or if you go to type, and, unfortunately, some rude idiot typing publicly includes typing to you.)
I don't know how to communicate with a host already in video when I'm in text chat, however, since most of them don't allow this option. I usually try to wait until she is alone so I can be the first in video, especially since I like to give my cam, but if a host is usually busy, I will do things according to how you explained and enter open even if the host is already with a member.
What I hate is when the other guy stops typing publicly. It is distracting, and, if he's talking about how hard he is and stuff, disgusting. And if using the full screen option, every time he types publicly, it makes the chat window appear which I f-ing hate! CC needs to do something about that.
(In case you didn't know, click in the chat window where you type and then move the mouse cursor ABOVE the window, preferably being to the left or right so as not to block the pic, and the window disappears in a few seconds if nobody, including some rude idiot, types. It only appears when someone types to you or if you go to type, and, unfortunately, some rude idiot typing publicly includes typing to you.)
RE: Entering an ongoing session - questions
"...and the first member should have NOT chosen open if he wanted exclusivity."* Obviously, I mean he should have chosen 121 if he wanted exclusivity.
RE: Entering an ongoing session - questions
Well, if he's like me, I don't always know if I want 1-2-1 until i'm in session. I only choose it when I feel that I "need" privacy -- no one else interupting. Coitus Interuptus is one thing, but SomeoneElsus Interuptus is annoying LOL.
If i'm thinking only to chat, then why deprive the host of other potential customers? That's my thinking anyway. Of course, I've have often regretted it, when things have advanced along enough that I'm in the "mood" for some "more". Then I want the privacy - never been a fan of ménage à trois. Well, not when the 3rd person is a guy, anyway ;)
If i'm thinking only to chat, then why deprive the host of other potential customers? That's my thinking anyway. Of course, I've have often regretted it, when things have advanced along enough that I'm in the "mood" for some "more". Then I want the privacy - never been a fan of ménage à trois. Well, not when the 3rd person is a guy, anyway ;)
RE: Entering an ongoing session - questions
Good point... i never thought of that indicating someone else in the room. I knew about the full-screen option, and that it disappears when no one is typing, but guess I've never used it while someone else is in the room along with me. In fact, I seldom use it. I think the two largest screen sizes are poorly designed, and the chat window is too disruptive (even if it does occasionally disappear when no one is typing)
RE: Entering an ongoing session - questions
Oh yeah, back to answering your original question. I have no idea why some would enter when a show is already in progress in non-adult. Except one does not always realize it until he arrives, and if the other member is talking in private messages, he may not realize even then that others are present. You could understand then that he might get upset, thinking he is alone with the host, and she is not giving him the attention he thinks he should have. Some sites, list in a sidebar the members who are in the host's room, but that luxury is not here at CC. And unless the other member is chatting openly, it is not apparent.
RE: Entering an ongoing session - questions
Maybe it is time for one price and that is always 121. Make the price midpoint between today's open price and 121 price. Do they really make a lot of money on more than one member being in a video at the same time? Hosts? Your experience?
RE: Entering an ongoing session - questions
Non Adult is not one of my choices on site, but I've heard there is much less business there than in the adult categories. And this would lead me to believe that it is rare to have 2 viewers at same time in paid videochat. Indeed I've heard any viewers at all in rare in Non Adult. But I do not know this for certain but only what I've heard.
RE: Entering an ongoing session - questions
Yes good point and you being a host would know far better than I. And you are correct Glamour was designed to this site's bridge between non adult and adult categories. So it is fair to say it has more in common with NA than any of the other adult categories.
RE: Entering an ongoing session - questions
Before entering video it is perfectly obvious if a member is already in the hosts room. On the page where you choose 121 or Open, if you have the option of 121 or Open then the host is alone. If only Open is available then there is already a member in video.
Wheelchair
Hi ,My girlfriend had an accident and in now in a wheelchair. Does anyone know of any girls on here who are disabled or in a wheelcair.
RE: Wheelchair
I'm not sure why he was asking, but I think you could have responded a litte differently. I know that there is at least one long time member here that is in a wheel chair, for example, and the tone of your post isn't exactly sensitive or appropriate.
Of course, I'm not so sure I want to know why he was asking, and something tells me that unless his gf is thinking of being a host, I am not so sure I want to know. But to each his own...
Of course, I'm not so sure I want to know why he was asking, and something tells me that unless his gf is thinking of being a host, I am not so sure I want to know. But to each his own...
RE: Wheelchair
" I know that there is at least one long time member here that is in a wheel chair, for example, and the tone of your post isn't exactly sensitive or appropriate."
He was talking about is girlfriend not another member. And CC determines what is appropriate, not you.
He was talking about is girlfriend not another member. And CC determines what is appropriate, not you.
RE: Wheelchair
A reference to "Special Olympics" in that manner is clearly tasteless. And I was not referring to what is appropriate in the forums where CC tries to allow free speech to the extent possible. Rather, I was referring to how to act in a decent manner in general. CC, to the extent that they can without having a flame war, allows people to post insensitive, socially inappropriate comments, but that doesn't mean making such comments is the right thing to do.
RE: Wheelchair
As a viewer how would you know that there is a member in a wheel chair?? That makes no sense!! Are you also a host...lol
RE: Wheelchair
In my case, a host told me. Also, since there is community chat, a member could have mentioned it publicly. Or, I might personally know the member. But in my case, it is because a host told me a long time ago. And no, she didn't mention his id here... She just told me about him, I think in the context of that she felt bad for him. :(
RE: Wheelchair
That was damn rude. Whelshy had a valid question, and deserved a valid reply, instead of a smartass one. I hope neither you, nor a loved one ever becomes disabled, temporarily or permanently -- well maybe you should, so you can understand just how damn rude and insensitive your reply was.
RE: Wheelchair
Gem, do not assume why someone is asking. I do not know why he is asking, but he may have a very good reason. He may be trying to learn sexual techniques that are pleasing to his disabled partner.
RE: Wheelchair
Hmmm. Good point. Maybe he is trying to learn how to be with someone disabled. I was trying to think of a good reason for his asking and only could imagine he had some strange fetish.
RE: Wheelchair
I don't know hosts in weellchaiir, but if your gf is a strong person can try, for sure will be members who will like to meet her, good luck
RE: Wheelchair
to answer your question, Whelshy, after several quite rude responses, no, unfortunately, I do not know any wheel-chair bound hosts. Perhaps you could email help@camcontacts.com and see if they might be able to steer you in the direction of someone.
RE: Wheelchair
Please share why you would be seeking wheel chair hosts if you have a girlfiriend? Think the question confused many and so the responses were awkward.
RE: Wheelchair
Host, do we ask the same question of the married man, or the man with girlfriend, whose partner is not handicapped? If that is his fetish, who are we to question? If he is hoping for insight -- or someone who might help him with his predicament -- why should it matter to us? His reasons are his own. He asked a simple question, and deserves a simple answer, not some 3rd Degree Interrogation. And the question is not even hard to answer. If I knew someone, I'd be happy to steer him in that direction. Pity we are not on my old site, I knew one who was totally deaf, and one who was physically disabled, but neither of them are now hosting, and have moved on to other things, more power to them.
RE: Wheelchair
Thank you all for your replies and especially those of support. I did actually ask a stright forward question and did not expect it to turn into such a discussion.
It would take far to long to elobrate on my question. Being with somone who is a paraplegic is at times very emotional. So won't go into that. A disabled person is entitled to the best sexual life as anyone else and I want to make our sex life the best I can. I have to learn too and she has to cope with the inability to be able to feel me inside her. Its hard for her. She now has low self esteam in bed and thinks why would anyone want to make love to her anymore. I want to convince her I do and if there are sexual disabled girls out there I am trying to find them and hopefully show her it does not end just have to adapt. But please don't think we don't have a great life together because we do....
It would take far to long to elobrate on my question. Being with somone who is a paraplegic is at times very emotional. So won't go into that. A disabled person is entitled to the best sexual life as anyone else and I want to make our sex life the best I can. I have to learn too and she has to cope with the inability to be able to feel me inside her. Its hard for her. She now has low self esteam in bed and thinks why would anyone want to make love to her anymore. I want to convince her I do and if there are sexual disabled girls out there I am trying to find them and hopefully show her it does not end just have to adapt. But please don't think we don't have a great life together because we do....
hosts: Tell me why u like C2C, pls
I am shy about using C2C, becuase I am not very attractive. Sometimes hosts seem real disappointed when I do not. What should I do? What part of me do you want to see? any advise on how to use c2c or how to explain why I am uncomfortable.
RE: hosts: Tell me why u like C2C, pls
"and it seems nobody - host or viewer - can ever please everyone".
The viewer is paying, its not his responsibility to please the host. Its the host's job to please her viewer. For a softcore host to ask for member cam is ok, but if he says no the host needs to drop the subject. As hosts in IA are not allowed to ask for member cam, it is only done in softcore.
Softcore hosts like to talk about the choice they on whether or not they do nude show. Well all members have the choice on whether or not they broadcast their cam on site. And no host can require a member cam in order for her to do nude show. And if you doubt my word, email CC and ask them.
The viewer is paying, its not his responsibility to please the host. Its the host's job to please her viewer. For a softcore host to ask for member cam is ok, but if he says no the host needs to drop the subject. As hosts in IA are not allowed to ask for member cam, it is only done in softcore.
Softcore hosts like to talk about the choice they on whether or not they do nude show. Well all members have the choice on whether or not they broadcast their cam on site. And no host can require a member cam in order for her to do nude show. And if you doubt my word, email CC and ask them.
RE: hosts: Tell me why u like C2C, pls
Where does it say that hosts in IA are not allowed to ask a member if he can send cam?
RE: hosts: Tell me why u like C2C, pls
I'm glad you asked. Here are the rules;
By signing into this category Chathosts commit to:
•Not sharing details such as age, name, country etc. unless initiated by the Viewer.
•No delaying tactics whatsoever. Chathosts MUST be prepared to immediately start their show as soon as a viewer enters.
•Also getting naked must not take a long time. This is not the category for a slow strip tease show.
•Be prepared to provide an explicit sex show. Not only is the Chathost expected to get naked, but also provide additional explicit content such as open leg shots, and finger or dildo penetration, if requested
By signing into this category Chathosts commit to:
•Not sharing details such as age, name, country etc. unless initiated by the Viewer.
•No delaying tactics whatsoever. Chathosts MUST be prepared to immediately start their show as soon as a viewer enters.
•Also getting naked must not take a long time. This is not the category for a slow strip tease show.
•Be prepared to provide an explicit sex show. Not only is the Chathost expected to get naked, but also provide additional explicit content such as open leg shots, and finger or dildo penetration, if requested
RE: hosts: Tell me why u like C2C, pls
I agree and I don't think it is right if a host persists. The hosts that you speak of somehow think that someone is spying on them and would expose them to their world. The ones that persist and that is not their problem have much bigger problems so just go to the next one. I cannot understand why any host would want to make a viewer feel uncomfortable unless they are very immature.
RE: hosts: Tell me why u like C2C, pls
if I give you my cam, do you want to see may face, my body, or my penis? What is best for you, so you can give the best show?
RE: hosts: Tell me why u like C2C, pls
A member can show you his body on cam no matter what category you are in. A member is not bound by the rules of your's or any other category.
RE: hosts: Tell me why u like C2C, pls
OMG who is paying who? What are you thinking wanting to see all three of him? Too arrogant!
RE: hosts: Tell me why u like C2C, pls
"because I want to be sure its not some regular "
You don't perform for your regular viewers?
You don't perform for your regular viewers?
RE: hosts: Tell me why u like C2C, pls
Really? The why post this below?
"and I dont do hardcore anyway."
"and I dont do hardcore anyway."
RE: hosts: Tell me why u like C2C, pls
Try an old member like me! I have no clue how to record. I can barely use the cam!
RE: hosts: Tell me why u like C2C, pls
You are so worried then why are you here?? You provide a service and there is no guarantee's about what will happen. To eliminate mobile users or members that don't show cam is extremely paranoid and I think non-adult would fit you best and then you have nothing to worry about instead of insulting members.
Weren't you the one asking what they want to see recently? LOL the answer would be not your personality!!
Weren't you the one asking what they want to see recently? LOL the answer would be not your personality!!
RE: hosts: Tell me why u like C2C, pls
"and I dont do hardcore anyway."
So why are you worried about being recorded?
So why are you worried about being recorded?
RE: clothes in video chat,question to guys(about hosts)
Jeans, pink panties and pink t-shirt. Make up and straight hair either down or in a ponytail.
look like your current profile photo please
just look like whatever you are using for your current profile pic please. that is all.
RE: clothes in video chat,question to guys(about hosts)
Like you can totally satisfy all members if you wear what they like and still look not even close to what they want....lol.
It has a lot more to do with personality and how real you are!!
Yes looking like you didn't just fall out of bed would be a good idea and put some energy into how you look especially if you want to make the good money you epect...
It has a lot more to do with personality and how real you are!!
Yes looking like you didn't just fall out of bed would be a good idea and put some energy into how you look especially if you want to make the good money you epect...
RE: clothes in video chat,question to guys(about hosts)
If you are not doing well with videos then do something else. After reading some of your other posts it might not be anything that you can change!!
RE: clothes in video chat,question to guys(about hosts)
I saw a host who was just out of the shower, and wrapped in a towel! No make up at all. She looked great, especially when she let the towel fall!
I'm a nice girl with real personality, not a dummy. Please keep that in mind while we are together. ;o)
I see that phrase on many profiles on this and other sites. And the funny is it comes from hosts in the hardcore/nude categories not the Glamour/Little Shy kind of categories you might expect.
But I thought it was ironic and a bit funny as well, so I posted it.
But I thought it was ironic and a bit funny as well, so I posted it.
RE: I'm a nice girl with real personality, not a dummy. Please keep that in mind while we are together. ;o)
has any girl that was really a dummy ever admitted it?
RE: I'm a nice girl with real personality, not a dummy. Please keep that in mind while we are together. ;o)
yes there are some of us that are honest enough to admit when we have stupid moments. NOT all hosts are dishonest., just like not all hosts will say sweet things just to get your money.
and for that one person who will say why don't you post with your name, i say because i am not going to open the door to be accused of self promoting..
Be well everyone...hugggggg
and for that one person who will say why don't you post with your name, i say because i am not going to open the door to be accused of self promoting..
Be well everyone...hugggggg
Camcontact should get rid of Community chat and General Forum, Viewer only forum
Keep only technical forum and cc email that's it!
RE: Camcontact should get rid of Community chat and General Forum, Viewer only forum
if you dont read forums or go to comm chat it will seem like they dont have them , so why bitch about something you use ?
RE: Camcontact should get rid of Community chat and General Forum, Viewer only forum
He's using a forum he wants to do away with? Sounds like a todder temper tantrum to me.
RE: Camcontact should get rid of Community chat and General Forum, Viewer only forum
It's my opinion relax!
RE: Camcontact should get rid of Community chat and General Forum, Viewer only forum
Why should they get rid of them? Because you don't like them? Yes, the world does revolve around you, we know, but still, you really should give a little more reason than what you gave.
RE: Camcontact should get rid of Community chat and General Forum, Viewer only forum
where would i go between video's if community chat was gone?
RE: Camcontact should get rid of Community chat and General Forum, Viewer only forum
General forum is the only one I visit, it is well supported by both hosts and members, and the discussion is generally good. I disagree, let's keep this.
RE: Camcontact should get rid of Community chat and General Forum, Viewer only forum
what would I do with my life? :--))
Why are almost 70% of Little Shy hosts that play Strip Hi Lo rated 4 stars or less?
OK some are not the prettiest but most are pretty in my opinion. This has to mean that most girls that have Strip Hi Lo advertised either do not strip at all, only get topless or even though they strip they hold up towel to cover or hand bra. So that would mean that more than half of the girls in Little Shy that have the Strip Hi Lo option are not following the rules. And if true, this is unacceptable.
RE: Why are almost 70% of Little Shy hosts that play Strip Hi Lo rated 4 stars or less?
Do you know what a non sequitur is?
RE: Why are almost 70% of Little Shy hosts that play Strip Hi Lo rated 4 stars or less?
Non sequitur (pronounced /nɒnˈsɛkwɪtər/) is Latin for "it does not follow." It is most often used as a noun to describe illogical statements.
Non sequitur may refer to:
Non sequitur (literary device), an irrelevant, often humorous comment to a preceding topic or statement.
Non sequitur (logic), a logical fallacy where a stated conclusion is not supported by its premise.
Non Sequitur (comic strip), a comic strip by Wiley Miller
Non Sequitur (Star Trek: Voyager), an episode of Star Trek: Voyager
Non sequitur may refer to:
Non sequitur (literary device), an irrelevant, often humorous comment to a preceding topic or statement.
Non sequitur (logic), a logical fallacy where a stated conclusion is not supported by its premise.
Non Sequitur (comic strip), a comic strip by Wiley Miller
Non Sequitur (Star Trek: Voyager), an episode of Star Trek: Voyager
RE: Why are almost 70% of Little Shy hosts that play Strip Hi Lo rated 4 stars or less?
OK I should have explained I counted 54 out of 78 hosts on line in the Little Shy Strip Hi Lo category. And yes the number of girls on line keeps changing as do their ratings. But I still think that even for a snapshot view, that is way too high. And yes I've had it happen to me many times playing Strip Hi lo that the host never did what she was supposed to do when she lost the game.
Would member profiles be a good idea on cc?
I go to many sites and almost all have member profiles. Mine are all blank but no doubt some members do fill them out. I've had many pvts here and at other sites over the years. Some hosts ask many questions and some none at all. I think that almost all viewers that like to use c2c would go for it and on these sites it is free and also optional just like c2c is. And only the host that is in pvt with member can see his profile.
I am one that prefers not to share personal; details about myself
but there are members that for any number of reasons do like to share details with hosts. And that option remains for like minded members. But it does offer a free perk for those who are into such things like c2c and the like.
I like this site overall. And if I can make a suggestion which will help retain current members and add new ones, it increases the the possibilities of continued long term success of this site. So while this specific feature will not benefit me directly, it can do so indirectly over time. And I for one love competition. I don't want to see any cam site fail. I want more. The more there are the better it is for all consumers.
I am one that prefers not to share personal; details about myself
but there are members that for any number of reasons do like to share details with hosts. And that option remains for like minded members. But it does offer a free perk for those who are into such things like c2c and the like.
I like this site overall. And if I can make a suggestion which will help retain current members and add new ones, it increases the the possibilities of continued long term success of this site. So while this specific feature will not benefit me directly, it can do so indirectly over time. And I for one love competition. I don't want to see any cam site fail. I want more. The more there are the better it is for all consumers.
RE: Would member profiles be a good idea on cc?
No. What purpose would it serve? Many members prefer to either not discuss or lie about their personal details. Would the host treat the member better? She is concerned about video minutes...not if you like baseball, music and long walks on the beach.
RE: Would member profiles be a good idea on cc?
Read my post again. It may be something some members would like. The same guys that do c2 c would most likely like this shit. I can tell you there are members on other sites that are into this shit. And no doubt many are members here as well.
RE: Would member profiles be a good idea on cc?
well in my opinion, it's a great idea. i like c2c and i like to share details about myself too, so i like this idea. this would be a big improvement in my eyes.
RE: Would member profiles be a good idea on cc?
A host never has to look at a profile or any pictures on it just as she does not have to look at c2c. Its all a matter of choice.
Stars (again)
Okay. Since someone in a thread below talked about stars, let's rehash the old subject.
This person suggested only letting people vote after 10 minutes to keep fraudulent votes and jealous hosts away. There is a major problem with that idea, namely, almost every host will end up with 5 stars that way. The reason is that, most likely, a guy is only going to stay 10 minutes if he is having a good time, and he will probably just click 5 stars when he leaves.
I have had a few times where after 10 minutes, the host all of a sudden started talking on the phone or whatever, so a 5 star rating quickly drops to 1, but this usually isn't the case. If I am in video over 10 minutes, I am almost definitely going to rate someone 5 stars unless she does something to annoy me after that point. The only other time I wouldn't give a 5 star rating after 10 minutes is if she is really hot so I decided to stay awhile but she is just not that good of a performer, and I simply can't justify to myself giving her 5 stars to be fair to other members. But once again, I am almost always going to give 5 stars if I've been in video 10 minutes or more, otherwise, I probably would have left already.
CC could lower the time required to vote, but of course, the lower the time required, the more the fraudulent vote issue creeps in. Also, there are plenty of hosts that deserve a low rating based on how they act in the first minute or two, so one can argue that it is good to allow a host to be rated after just one minute. I might make it a two mintue minimum instead of 1 second like it is now, but I wouldn't go higher than 2 minutes since I have run into plenty of rude hosts that show their true colors in the first 30 seconds.
One could also suggest making ratings based on time spent in video, but this could give an unfair advantage to lower priced hosts. Or one could make the rating based on money spent with a host, but again, there are flaws with this idea. For example, I know of a few hosts that make lots of money here and have just a couple of rich guys that visit them all of the time. Are they really 5 star hosts or do they just happen to have a special connection with a couple of members that like to visit them all of the time?
Personally, I think the bigger problem with the system is that it is only based on 10 votes. CC tells hosts that it is okay this way since hosts have the opportunity to quickly change their rating, but I think it gives one vote too much weight. I definitely wouldn't do what one site does and look at votes from the first day a host ever worked on a site since you want ratings to reflect recent performance, but I think raising the number of votes from 10 to 20, and perhaps a bit more such as 25, would be a good idea. I wouldn't go higher than that, however, to allow hosts a better opportunity to increase their rating. I just think 10 votes gives one vote way too much weight as I said.
In terms of controlling other problems, there isn't much that CC can do more than they are doing already. They can track IP's but these can be changed. They can try to make it so a member with multiple accounts can only vote once per host, but that doesn't stop a host with an army of fans from attacking another host. They can look for patterns of irregular voting, but again, that isn't necessarily going to lead to a fair and consistent outcome either.
There is one soloution, however, and it is completely in the host's control. Hosts need to understand something: the key to having high ratings is to be a good enough host that a guy that visits you will want to return over and over and presumably give you 5 stars each time. That means you must make a good impression the first time you meet him so he will want to come back and to continue to deliver a good enough performance that he will keep coming back.
It isn't a mystery. This is exactly what the higher ranked hosts do. I have yet to meet the host that is good at her job complain about having less than 4,5 stars. She always complains about not having 5 stars because of some guy that got upset at her for not loving him or some jealous host or whatever. But she is usually a good enough host that she will always have at least 4,5 stars. She might not be as high up on the page as she likes, but she will still be near the top.
As for the hosts below 4,5 stars, sorry ladies, but either you are just not that good of a performer, you are just not that hot and cannot make up for it in other ways such as performance or personality, you are on too many sites, or there is some other reason that is causing this. In a nutshell, you simply don't deserve a higher rating as much as you want one. There is not some army of angry members and jealous hosts attacking you every day. It is simply that you are not one of the best hosts here. Other than making money, I wouldn't worry about that however. It doesn't mean your a bad person or ugly or whatever. It just means you are not particularly good at entertaining a bunch of strangers over the internet.
This person suggested only letting people vote after 10 minutes to keep fraudulent votes and jealous hosts away. There is a major problem with that idea, namely, almost every host will end up with 5 stars that way. The reason is that, most likely, a guy is only going to stay 10 minutes if he is having a good time, and he will probably just click 5 stars when he leaves.
I have had a few times where after 10 minutes, the host all of a sudden started talking on the phone or whatever, so a 5 star rating quickly drops to 1, but this usually isn't the case. If I am in video over 10 minutes, I am almost definitely going to rate someone 5 stars unless she does something to annoy me after that point. The only other time I wouldn't give a 5 star rating after 10 minutes is if she is really hot so I decided to stay awhile but she is just not that good of a performer, and I simply can't justify to myself giving her 5 stars to be fair to other members. But once again, I am almost always going to give 5 stars if I've been in video 10 minutes or more, otherwise, I probably would have left already.
CC could lower the time required to vote, but of course, the lower the time required, the more the fraudulent vote issue creeps in. Also, there are plenty of hosts that deserve a low rating based on how they act in the first minute or two, so one can argue that it is good to allow a host to be rated after just one minute. I might make it a two mintue minimum instead of 1 second like it is now, but I wouldn't go higher than 2 minutes since I have run into plenty of rude hosts that show their true colors in the first 30 seconds.
One could also suggest making ratings based on time spent in video, but this could give an unfair advantage to lower priced hosts. Or one could make the rating based on money spent with a host, but again, there are flaws with this idea. For example, I know of a few hosts that make lots of money here and have just a couple of rich guys that visit them all of the time. Are they really 5 star hosts or do they just happen to have a special connection with a couple of members that like to visit them all of the time?
Personally, I think the bigger problem with the system is that it is only based on 10 votes. CC tells hosts that it is okay this way since hosts have the opportunity to quickly change their rating, but I think it gives one vote too much weight. I definitely wouldn't do what one site does and look at votes from the first day a host ever worked on a site since you want ratings to reflect recent performance, but I think raising the number of votes from 10 to 20, and perhaps a bit more such as 25, would be a good idea. I wouldn't go higher than that, however, to allow hosts a better opportunity to increase their rating. I just think 10 votes gives one vote way too much weight as I said.
In terms of controlling other problems, there isn't much that CC can do more than they are doing already. They can track IP's but these can be changed. They can try to make it so a member with multiple accounts can only vote once per host, but that doesn't stop a host with an army of fans from attacking another host. They can look for patterns of irregular voting, but again, that isn't necessarily going to lead to a fair and consistent outcome either.
There is one soloution, however, and it is completely in the host's control. Hosts need to understand something: the key to having high ratings is to be a good enough host that a guy that visits you will want to return over and over and presumably give you 5 stars each time. That means you must make a good impression the first time you meet him so he will want to come back and to continue to deliver a good enough performance that he will keep coming back.
It isn't a mystery. This is exactly what the higher ranked hosts do. I have yet to meet the host that is good at her job complain about having less than 4,5 stars. She always complains about not having 5 stars because of some guy that got upset at her for not loving him or some jealous host or whatever. But she is usually a good enough host that she will always have at least 4,5 stars. She might not be as high up on the page as she likes, but she will still be near the top.
As for the hosts below 4,5 stars, sorry ladies, but either you are just not that good of a performer, you are just not that hot and cannot make up for it in other ways such as performance or personality, you are on too many sites, or there is some other reason that is causing this. In a nutshell, you simply don't deserve a higher rating as much as you want one. There is not some army of angry members and jealous hosts attacking you every day. It is simply that you are not one of the best hosts here. Other than making money, I wouldn't worry about that however. It doesn't mean your a bad person or ugly or whatever. It just means you are not particularly good at entertaining a bunch of strangers over the internet.
RE: Stars (again)
I agree, 2 minutes works and is the standard on other sites. Why 2 minutes? Because every site will tell you if pvt is not going your way, leave no later than 2 minutes if you expect a credit back to your account. Its clearly a money issue. And I agree the more $ you spend in pvt the harder it is to admit to yourself you made a mistake.
RE: Stars (again)
I forgot one other thing. Besides raising the number of votes from 10 to 20, or maybe 25, I would only count one vote for each member. I believe now one member can vote twice as long as he votes on different days which means that he can account for 20% of a host's rating (2 out of 10). That definitely is way too much control for one member.
If it is 20 votes, and one vote per member, that means he only controls 5% of the rating. And also, it will be a much more representative sample.
There is one downside to all of this. I think ratings will go down. They will be more fair and more reflective of a host's true rating since 20 different people will need to vote, but I have a feeling that since regulars will have less influence this way, rating will go down, and I don't know if CC wants a site where only a few hosts have 5 stars. It looks better when so many hosts have high ratings, although I think it is far from an accurate reflection of the typical host's performance.
If it is 20 votes, and one vote per member, that means he only controls 5% of the rating. And also, it will be a much more representative sample.
There is one downside to all of this. I think ratings will go down. They will be more fair and more reflective of a host's true rating since 20 different people will need to vote, but I have a feeling that since regulars will have less influence this way, rating will go down, and I don't know if CC wants a site where only a few hosts have 5 stars. It looks better when so many hosts have high ratings, although I think it is far from an accurate reflection of the typical host's performance.
RE: Stars (again)
I agree. Excellent idea. That way fanboys will not have the impact they do now
RE: joke:)))
reminds me of when I want to kill the person ahead of me when she pays with a check, and yes, 99% of the time it is a woman.
They take out the fucking check and everyone has to wait for the total bill and for her to fill it all out instead of just using cash, a credit card, or an ATM/Debit card. And if she isn't a regular customer, you need to wait for ID to be checked and manager approval and all that bullshit!
I fucking hate that! Get into the 21st century!
You think I could shoot them and get away with it?
They take out the fucking check and everyone has to wait for the total bill and for her to fill it all out instead of just using cash, a credit card, or an ATM/Debit card. And if she isn't a regular customer, you need to wait for ID to be checked and manager approval and all that bullshit!
I fucking hate that! Get into the 21st century!
You think I could shoot them and get away with it?
RE: joke:)))
I likes that joke as I have often complained about the same thing when standing in a supermarket queue.
My Review of Camcontacts
CC overall is a very good site. Its not perfect, no site is. Customer Service is the best I've seen. Customer Service is non existent at most cam sites I go to. The prices moderate from under $1 to $6. There are many very good hosts on site in the Girl Alone's 4 categories. There are also some not very good hosts as well as there are on all sites.
I do wish there was not so much movement of hosts between the various categories. I think a new host should have a month to try and find the category that fits her and stick with it for at least a year before she can change again. I think the girls in each category should fit the guidelines provided. By having girls in the wrong categories leads to viewer frustration and can cause many to go elsewhere for their entertainment.
I think CC is the most intimate site on line or at least from what I've seen in surfing cam sites since they began in 1998. I also like the way these forums are configured.
I think hosts should have the option to close an open videochat to new viewers at the click of a mouse at no cost to the viewer. I also think a host should have the option to have a free video room. And I did say host option. The host still has the right to choose.
Instead of what in my view are unfair contests every few months, I'd like to see an incentive to keep older bigger spending members. It could be in the form of giving them free credits based on how much they've spent on site. Maybe a Silver, Gold VIP member construct. Or something along those lines. All major credit cards have Reward Programs based on spending.
And one final thing, a Senior Citizen Discount for members over 65 of maybe 5%.except on weekends.
I do wish there was not so much movement of hosts between the various categories. I think a new host should have a month to try and find the category that fits her and stick with it for at least a year before she can change again. I think the girls in each category should fit the guidelines provided. By having girls in the wrong categories leads to viewer frustration and can cause many to go elsewhere for their entertainment.
I think CC is the most intimate site on line or at least from what I've seen in surfing cam sites since they began in 1998. I also like the way these forums are configured.
I think hosts should have the option to close an open videochat to new viewers at the click of a mouse at no cost to the viewer. I also think a host should have the option to have a free video room. And I did say host option. The host still has the right to choose.
Instead of what in my view are unfair contests every few months, I'd like to see an incentive to keep older bigger spending members. It could be in the form of giving them free credits based on how much they've spent on site. Maybe a Silver, Gold VIP member construct. Or something along those lines. All major credit cards have Reward Programs based on spending.
And one final thing, a Senior Citizen Discount for members over 65 of maybe 5%.except on weekends.
RE: My Review of Camcontacts
Dear Horse Dick, "And one final thing, a Senior Citizen Discount for members over 65 of maybe 5%.except on weekends." lmao
men in the age of 65 are usualy more rich than 20-30 ;) coz already build some business and have money. In general i like everything here, thats why i closed accounts on all the rest sites.the only thing which is annoying here its ----> rating sistem (which i think should count only if guy spent 10 minuts in video.( this way guy jealous members and envy hosts will think twice before come in the room of Top host and rate 1 star)all the rest is fine. As well, i would like to see more promotion things,not money contests, but promotions for hosts. top girl of the day for example. or 3 top girls of the week. why i think so.? i think evrybody want to be on the first page. this way hosts will have the goal to work more hard. and also more girls will be visible on the site.not only covergirls..i would also put some bonus thing like. for example host earn 3000 a pay period -this way she get 100 $ bonus, and if host made 4000 a pay period -she get 200$ bonus from site etc. this would stimulate the host activity. and host will try to earn more.Some thing like 5 HARDERS WORKER of pay period. THE Best smile,the most friendly chathost,etc.CC had such things before few years ago. but then its all dissapeared. and now its getting boring to work from contest till contest like 2-3 months. i think cc need some little things,which would make hosts work harder.and also bring a lot of new members on the site. Being a Public Relations and Advertisment Specialist by profession,i would add a lot of things here;)
men in the age of 65 are usualy more rich than 20-30 ;) coz already build some business and have money. In general i like everything here, thats why i closed accounts on all the rest sites.the only thing which is annoying here its ----> rating sistem (which i think should count only if guy spent 10 minuts in video.( this way guy jealous members and envy hosts will think twice before come in the room of Top host and rate 1 star)all the rest is fine. As well, i would like to see more promotion things,not money contests, but promotions for hosts. top girl of the day for example. or 3 top girls of the week. why i think so.? i think evrybody want to be on the first page. this way hosts will have the goal to work more hard. and also more girls will be visible on the site.not only covergirls..i would also put some bonus thing like. for example host earn 3000 a pay period -this way she get 100 $ bonus, and if host made 4000 a pay period -she get 200$ bonus from site etc. this would stimulate the host activity. and host will try to earn more.Some thing like 5 HARDERS WORKER of pay period. THE Best smile,the most friendly chathost,etc.CC had such things before few years ago. but then its all dissapeared. and now its getting boring to work from contest till contest like 2-3 months. i think cc need some little things,which would make hosts work harder.and also bring a lot of new members on the site. Being a Public Relations and Advertisment Specialist by profession,i would add a lot of things here;)
RE: My Review of Camcontacts
To My pussy is wet,
You think they should give u bonus because host is hard worker? no way! This site is not for work cause of fun and enjoy. If u work in Bank or Nurse,Lawyer, work in office then yes they should give u nice bonus!
You think they should give u bonus because host is hard worker? no way! This site is not for work cause of fun and enjoy. If u work in Bank or Nurse,Lawyer, work in office then yes they should give u nice bonus!
RE: My Review of Camcontacts
Yes I agree with incentives for hosts. But still want my Senior Citizen Discount! Being older does not mean one is rich, far from it.
RE: My Review of Camcontacts
why would they do such a thing on the weekends when they are busiest. as a senior over 65 you're probably retired and have nothing better to do during the week anyway.
RE: My Review of Camcontacts
When a host earns that much in a month she doesn't need a bonus...lol. Also ten minutes before rating....omg that is so over
the top. The standard is 2 minutes and the ability to stay for 20 seconds without costing anything and unable to rate. Seems like that makes a lot of sense. Then you don't have the sabotage hosts.
the top. The standard is 2 minutes and the ability to stay for 20 seconds without costing anything and unable to rate. Seems like that makes a lot of sense. Then you don't have the sabotage hosts.
RE: My Review of Camcontacts
"it's annoying when some hosts use NA to draw people to their IA rooms"
only if a viewer demand adult things in NON-ADULT category
only if a viewer demand adult things in NON-ADULT category
RE: My Review of Camcontacts
I agree with the idea of similar categories, but NA and Softcore should stay there and not be able to open in IA.
RE: My Review of Camcontacts
maybe she needs NA to cool off, take a break, catch a breather ;) All that finger play in hardcore, all that moaning and groaning, all that climaxing again and again, HAS to be physically draining and exhausting ;)
Question not to ask hosts
I saw a host online that I hadn't seen for awhile. I was using a new account, and she didn't know it was me.
In text chat, I asked her when she worked because I didn't want to visit her at that moment but I wanted a show later. She wouldn't answer and kept erasing everything.
I told her we had met before and gave her my old account. Still she wouldn't answer and kept erasing everything.
Then, I entered her video so she could see me, and still she wouldn't answer. She said she recognized me so that was no longer an issue. I explained why I was asking but still she wouldn't answer.
So, is it wrong to ask when I can find a host online for future visits? WTF? We never had a problem before when I saw her, and like I said, she didn't even know it was me when I was asking in text chat..
I guess I am not supposed to ever ask a host when she will be online so I can try to visit her in the future. This certainly seems like an excellent way for hosts to increase revenue. So nobody ask when their favorites work. It is a bad idea. They will think you are spying or something I guess.
In text chat, I asked her when she worked because I didn't want to visit her at that moment but I wanted a show later. She wouldn't answer and kept erasing everything.
I told her we had met before and gave her my old account. Still she wouldn't answer and kept erasing everything.
Then, I entered her video so she could see me, and still she wouldn't answer. She said she recognized me so that was no longer an issue. I explained why I was asking but still she wouldn't answer.
So, is it wrong to ask when I can find a host online for future visits? WTF? We never had a problem before when I saw her, and like I said, she didn't even know it was me when I was asking in text chat..
I guess I am not supposed to ever ask a host when she will be online so I can try to visit her in the future. This certainly seems like an excellent way for hosts to increase revenue. So nobody ask when their favorites work. It is a bad idea. They will think you are spying or something I guess.
RE: Question not to ask hosts
"So, is it wrong to ask when I can find a host online for future visits?"
It was just one host, doesn't mean all others hosts think the same. Of course you can ask about it, nothing wrong with it.
It was just one host, doesn't mean all others hosts think the same. Of course you can ask about it, nothing wrong with it.
What posts do you tend to believe more?
1. Negative
2. Positive
3. Funny
4. Posts that make no sense
5. I don't believe any posts in this forum.
2. Positive
3. Funny
4. Posts that make no sense
5. I don't believe any posts in this forum.
RE: What posts do you tend to believe more?
To verify mine or anyone's screen name , all you have to do is CC Mail them
RE: What posts do you tend to believe more?
I have a strong feeling that you have other screen names that appear when you go into hosts room!! If fact I know it!
Bring Back Escort Category
If there was Escort again, it should be only for girls that really like to meet in person. What they do or dont do would be their business. But at least you would know who really wanted to meet and who was just BSing.
RE: Bring Back Escort Category
you really think most of those in escort met members?
I know of two hosts here that would qualify as real escorts. I think only one of the two was ever in that category. For the rest, it was just another category to use for a second session.
I think if you have a good relationship with hosts and are willing to spend a lot of money on them and take them on a nice vacation, there are several here that you can meet. Some of these hosts might surprise you, and not all of them must be back before midnight, hehehe.
I know of two hosts here that would qualify as real escorts. I think only one of the two was ever in that category. For the rest, it was just another category to use for a second session.
I think if you have a good relationship with hosts and are willing to spend a lot of money on them and take them on a nice vacation, there are several here that you can meet. Some of these hosts might surprise you, and not all of them must be back before midnight, hehehe.
RE: Bring Back Escort Category
not necessarily. I would only pay an escort for her time. Guiding me thru her city, being fun company. If anythig else happened, that would be purely two adults deciding to have fun.
RE: Bring Back Escort Category
I think you might be using the word "escort" differently than most people, lol. An escort meets you with the presumption that you will be having sex with her. You might never actually ask for sex if it is illegal where you live, but both parties assume there will be sex. You are paying her for sex even if nobody actually formally states this.
The two hosts I was referring to definitely meet guys and almost definitely have sex with them. Well, one I know has sex with guys (no, not me, lol) and the other I am pretty sure has done it. I am not sure if they have done it with CC members, but I think both have. But I am confident that neither of them would ever be foolish enough to talk about it on CC.
You are using the term in terms of a personal tour guide. I don't think 99.9% of hosts chose that category to mean that. Once again, it was simply an ambiguous category that hosts chose just to have a second session in a category where there were few hosts to draw attention to themselves. Actually, it was escort & massage, and I doubt too many, if anyone, met a massage therapist this way, lol.
Maybe when the category was first established it actually had a few real escorts and a few massage therapists, but definitely not in the few years before it was removed. At most there was one that I know of.
I would suggest simply establishing a good relationship with a host and propose meeting her as a tour guide. I don't know if it will work or not, but it might. It will all depend upon how the two of you interact online and how much she trusts you. But I doubt too many hosts will meet you until they are sure of your motivations. CC is primarily an interactive porn site after all.
The two hosts I was referring to definitely meet guys and almost definitely have sex with them. Well, one I know has sex with guys (no, not me, lol) and the other I am pretty sure has done it. I am not sure if they have done it with CC members, but I think both have. But I am confident that neither of them would ever be foolish enough to talk about it on CC.
You are using the term in terms of a personal tour guide. I don't think 99.9% of hosts chose that category to mean that. Once again, it was simply an ambiguous category that hosts chose just to have a second session in a category where there were few hosts to draw attention to themselves. Actually, it was escort & massage, and I doubt too many, if anyone, met a massage therapist this way, lol.
Maybe when the category was first established it actually had a few real escorts and a few massage therapists, but definitely not in the few years before it was removed. At most there was one that I know of.
I would suggest simply establishing a good relationship with a host and propose meeting her as a tour guide. I don't know if it will work or not, but it might. It will all depend upon how the two of you interact online and how much she trusts you. But I doubt too many hosts will meet you until they are sure of your motivations. CC is primarily an interactive porn site after all.
RE: Bring Back Escort Category
I was not born yesterday. Ambiguity can be a good thing. I like escorts and I know the game.
RE: Bring Back Escort Category
Ok... Here is your revised post:
I would like CC to bring back the escort category, and I want only real, legitimate escorts to work there. They can operate under the guise of tour guides for hire, and if we happen to hit it off, we can have sex too.
Better?
I would like CC to bring back the escort category, and I want only real, legitimate escorts to work there. They can operate under the guise of tour guides for hire, and if we happen to hit it off, we can have sex too.
Better?
RE: Bring Back Escort Category
I agree, but "escort" is hard prostituion for me! Here the host just sell feelings, flirting and their body to some extend...
But on some sites there's even a categorie "give a personal tour of my town" to meet - they should put that here in CC also!
And if you get a long good many many times in chat, and you fit together you can see what and if it happens after a cup of coffee and a nice holiday...
But on some sites there's even a categorie "give a personal tour of my town" to meet - they should put that here in CC also!
And if you get a long good many many times in chat, and you fit together you can see what and if it happens after a cup of coffee and a nice holiday...
RE: Bring Back Escort Category
It was a fantasy category...the girls in that category were not more or less obliged or willing that girls in any other category. The possibility of meeting a host from any category exists if you have the time and money and the host agrees to the meet. Bring money.
Some contrasting profiles in Glamour Girls
1. What you can expect from my show
Amazing time with cute flexible girl. Be sure-i will surprise you; Really?
2. What you can expect from my show
every dream ; Yeah right
3. What you can expect from my show
i can dance for u darling, model some panties for u or stockings, smoke?? and what do u expect from me? Good question!
4. What you can expect from my show
me, myself and I No shit?
5. Surprise Oh shit, you're a tranny???????????????
6. What you can expect from my show
Im an open mind person .... so ARE U READY ? Ready for what? Are you a tranny too?
7. What you can expect from my show
Sweet and funny girl . Really?
8. Come and try me . Yeah right, misleading as hell
Amazing time with cute flexible girl. Be sure-i will surprise you; Really?
2. What you can expect from my show
every dream ; Yeah right
3. What you can expect from my show
i can dance for u darling, model some panties for u or stockings, smoke?? and what do u expect from me? Good question!
4. What you can expect from my show
me, myself and I No shit?
5. Surprise Oh shit, you're a tranny???????????????
6. What you can expect from my show
Im an open mind person .... so ARE U READY ? Ready for what? Are you a tranny too?
7. What you can expect from my show
Sweet and funny girl . Really?
8. Come and try me . Yeah right, misleading as hell
RE: Some contrasting profiles in Glamour Girls
as I'm sure a member's profile would be so intellectually conceived, that us , hosts, would be amazed . Let's forget that most of the guys answer with "horny bb" when asked "how are you ?".
If you want good quality lecture, I suggest you a library. Good luck !
If you want good quality lecture, I suggest you a library. Good luck !
Has this ever happened to you?
I was with a host. Everything was fine. She was doing her show. Then after about 20 minutes, I was disconnected, and she came back online with a higher price about 2 minutes later.
Obviously, I went from being accepting of the fact that sometimes host's lose connections to thinking "you f-ing b*tch!!! I can't wait to report to u CC!!!"
I only went back to her room to make sure I could one star her since I had given her 5 before and I wanted to erase it. She seemed genuinely confused about what had happened and is a highly ranked host. She claimed the price change was not her fault and just mysteriously occurred.
She put the price back to what it had been before, so I returned. But I just wasn't in the mood any more, especially since she was already dressed and we were too busy talking about the whole situation.
I know hosts play games, but has anyone ever had the price change automatically without the host doing it herself?
Thanks.
Obviously, I went from being accepting of the fact that sometimes host's lose connections to thinking "you f-ing b*tch!!! I can't wait to report to u CC!!!"
I only went back to her room to make sure I could one star her since I had given her 5 before and I wanted to erase it. She seemed genuinely confused about what had happened and is a highly ranked host. She claimed the price change was not her fault and just mysteriously occurred.
She put the price back to what it had been before, so I returned. But I just wasn't in the mood any more, especially since she was already dressed and we were too busy talking about the whole situation.
I know hosts play games, but has anyone ever had the price change automatically without the host doing it herself?
Thanks.
RE: Has this ever happened to you?
never happened with me to be honest, price always the same as it was before till i change it
RE: Has this ever happened to you?
Yes a host losing their connection happens frequently, but usually does not affect the price. But I have had a few hosts in Glamour raise their 121 price significantly after agreeing to do a show in 121.
RE: Has this ever happened to you?
Hmmmm. Well she just had had a private in open session at the same price about 1 minute before so unless you mean it went back to the price it was the last time she logged into CC that was not what happened.
In fact, I entered right after the last guy had left and she was still undressed. I said it was okay but she got dressed anyway, but then she stripped. Potentially a stalling tactic or maybe it just seemed strange to start off a session being naked already.
I suppose she might have thought I wasn't coming back so she raised the price, but I've never had this happen before. The price has always been the same when I have gone back, and anyway, she said that she hadn't raised it.
I guess it all comes down to whether she intentionally disconnected me or not because she either wanted more money or had an upcoming appointment with a guy that usually spends more. I know hosts sometimes raise the price for certain members. But I don't think she stayed online much more after I left because I checked to see if she put the price higher again.
Anyway, this was all strange, and a first for me after years on CC.
In fact, I entered right after the last guy had left and she was still undressed. I said it was okay but she got dressed anyway, but then she stripped. Potentially a stalling tactic or maybe it just seemed strange to start off a session being naked already.
I suppose she might have thought I wasn't coming back so she raised the price, but I've never had this happen before. The price has always been the same when I have gone back, and anyway, she said that she hadn't raised it.
I guess it all comes down to whether she intentionally disconnected me or not because she either wanted more money or had an upcoming appointment with a guy that usually spends more. I know hosts sometimes raise the price for certain members. But I don't think she stayed online much more after I left because I checked to see if she put the price higher again.
Anyway, this was all strange, and a first for me after years on CC.
RE: Has this ever happened to you?
Yes. It happens from time to time. When it does, I just go into text-chat and ask them to lower it. No harm, no foul.
RE: Has this ever happened to you?
It has happened to me a number of times for various reasons....generally the host has a connection problem, or I have a connection problem...once my credit card reached the max before verification...but the price never changed.
RE: Has this ever happened to you?
Yeah, it happened to me recently. I had a brief chat with a new host, but one of us had to go, so she told me next time I see her online to come to her room and we would have some fun. So, I go there and check the price - same as last time. Anyway, I go to her text chat and remind her of what she said before. Then she tells me to come back in 5 minutes because she was on the phone. So I come back, and saw that she had increased her price! Hah! Needless to say, I didn't resume. So then I get an email from her asking why I didn't come back, and my reply was that I had to go because someone had a bridge to sell me. She is still waiting.
RE: Has this ever happened to you?
ok... i will be a 2 min man next time.... i know hosts love that :p
RE: Has this ever happened to you?
Internet sex seems to be the only place where being a premature ejaculator is a plus. It saves lots of money. Of course there is the minor humiliation of the dissapointed host asking "Are you done already?" LOL
RE: Has this ever happened to you?
Only my being done matters. What I pay her compensates for any lack of orgasm.
Flying By The Seat Of Your Pants(corny i know but wgaf)
One day old man Stumpy and his wife Martha went to the Royal Easter Show.
There was this man selling plane rides in his single prop show plane for $10 per person.
Stumpy looks to Martha and says, "Martha, I think I really should try that."
Martha replies, "I know you want to Stumpy, but we have a lot of bills, and you know the money is tight, and $10 is $10." So Stumpy goes without.
Over the next few years they return every year, and the same thing, Stumpy wants to ride, but Martha says no money.
Finally, when Stumpy and Martha are both about 70 years old, Stumpy looks to Martha, and says, "Martha, I'm 70 now, and I don't know if I'll ever get the chance again, so I just have to have a ride in that there airplane."
Martha replies in the same old fashion, and Stumpy kind of slumps down.
The pilot is standing near by and overhears the conversation...
The pilot pipes up, "Excuse me folks, I couldn't help but hear your situation, and I have a deal for you. I'll take both of you up together, and if you can both make the entire trip without saying a word, or even making the slightest sound, I'll give the ride for free. But if either of you make a sound, its $10 each."
Well, Martha and Stumpy look at each other, and agree to take the ride.
The pilot takes them up, and starts to do loop de loops, twists, dives, climbs and spins. No sound.
The pilot lands the plane, looks back at Stumpy and says, "Sir, I have to hand it to ya, you didn't make even the slightest sound and that was my best stuff."
Stumpy looks back at the pilot and says, "Well, I was gonna say something when Martha fell out, but $10 is $10!"
cut & pasted :--)
There was this man selling plane rides in his single prop show plane for $10 per person.
Stumpy looks to Martha and says, "Martha, I think I really should try that."
Martha replies, "I know you want to Stumpy, but we have a lot of bills, and you know the money is tight, and $10 is $10." So Stumpy goes without.
Over the next few years they return every year, and the same thing, Stumpy wants to ride, but Martha says no money.
Finally, when Stumpy and Martha are both about 70 years old, Stumpy looks to Martha, and says, "Martha, I'm 70 now, and I don't know if I'll ever get the chance again, so I just have to have a ride in that there airplane."
Martha replies in the same old fashion, and Stumpy kind of slumps down.
The pilot is standing near by and overhears the conversation...
The pilot pipes up, "Excuse me folks, I couldn't help but hear your situation, and I have a deal for you. I'll take both of you up together, and if you can both make the entire trip without saying a word, or even making the slightest sound, I'll give the ride for free. But if either of you make a sound, its $10 each."
Well, Martha and Stumpy look at each other, and agree to take the ride.
The pilot takes them up, and starts to do loop de loops, twists, dives, climbs and spins. No sound.
The pilot lands the plane, looks back at Stumpy and says, "Sir, I have to hand it to ya, you didn't make even the slightest sound and that was my best stuff."
Stumpy looks back at the pilot and says, "Well, I was gonna say something when Martha fell out, but $10 is $10!"
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