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she called me slut ( russian language) in community chat just because i didnt paid attention for her. does it mean inteligent?

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Would be interesting to read Gortensia's post:P:P:P

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Yes yes)) "U probably missunderstood my position as my English isnt very good, but ill try my best to explain")))

Unless she was doing something sexual with the animal, let it go! Christ!!

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hmmm, I have an important question which follows on from that ... does the fact that you took pains to point out that Gortensia doesn't squirt in the first minute mean that there are chicks that actually DO ... ??

...did the animal squirt too?

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Gortensia has always been polite to me and paid attention to me. Yes, the cat did come into the video one time, but it did not distract her from me. (The cat was even fun to watch) I will probably visit her again sometime.

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I agree with Ori - as usual. Vera (Gortensia) is a wonderful young woman. Cheers to you both...

Mike

welcome back mike:)

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and 1 sitting on fence undecided, as don't know her or him

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not 69?
:)

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she is a very rude girl i would rather have needles pushed into my eyes than see her again.

but finding someone who could stomach the sight of you for long enough to do it,would be the problem.

Ah ha! How about if the needle pusher put a few in his/her eyes 1st then he/she wouldn't have to "stomach the sight of him".....mmmm?

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wow,you are an ideas man,it could work.

i agree

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of course being rude is ok. actually forgot there are only rude members?

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As a matter of fact, I took great offense at that posting.
As a matter of fact, I felt it grossly violated CC's behaviour policy.
As a matter of fact, I asked them to remove that message for both those reasons and they kindly did so.

And now, I think you owe the fine folks who run this splendid site a very earnest apology.

Dear Easily Offended,

You are either a subtle ironist or dead earnest in your claim to being offended. Assuming the latter, I must first say, I believe you are preaching to the choir in my case because, if you read my responses to "cynical's" post, you may recall that I disagreed with his claims and took issue with him nearly point by point. His gratuitous assertions were so general and, by his own admission, designed in his words, "to stir the pot,” (a la Rush Limbaugh), not an attempt to demonstrate the truth of his claims.

My response was to make a reasoned argument in the General Forum to demonstrate that his claims were false. You---"Easily Offended"---took offense, but instead of making your own argument, you managed to persuade CC to censor the reasoned exchanges among other contributing members because your moral sensibilities were offended. And my opinion is that CC erred in allowing your sentiments alone to trump the right of others of us who would like to engage in reasoned arguments. That said, I believe it is you who owe the Forum members an apology for presuming to be a self-appointed arbiter of what can and not be posted here. And shame on CC for acquiescing to your request.

Excuse me, but when has "stirring the pot" ever resulted in an healthy exchange of reasoned ideas, culminating in the "pot stirrer" singing Kumbaya with his "logical" shaming critics after being forced to admit just how very, very wrong he really was?
Point out just ONE example of that ever having happened here. Do that and I promise to feel really, really bad for asking for the removal of the words of a person who admitted only having posted those very words to offend others in the first place.
Do that and I'll gladly bow low and give you the most heart-feltist, super-sincerliest apology off all time.

Now kindly acknowledge my intellectual might and beg me to not thrash your flimsy reasoning any further.

Cordially,

Easily Offended

my opinion is you are using hypocrisy,to try to prove a point,stir the pot or both of the prior assumptions.have fun with it.

no you're being easily offended again,it is not a display of intellectual might better used at the mensa forum

Easily Offended,

I agree, “pot stirrers” rarely throw down the gauntlet with view to engaging in a reasoned argument with truth being the ultimate goal. It is rather a contest, a spectator sport of sorts. A controversial subject or idea is thrown out, around which two sides engage in an exercise of disputation, nominally to debate a political event or social policy. (An extreme example would be media clowns like Limbaugh & O’Reilly, who specialize in this; their guests are invariably straw men). I think most people understand this and can elect to respond or to ignore such people. Some would argue that anyone who responds is a chump for taking the bait, that ludicrous assertions should not even be dignified with a response and that any effort to refute a claim with a reasoned argument is futile and a waste of time and energy. However, it does not mean that anyone who chooses to respond is, by your insulting assessment, a “ ‘logical’ shaming [sic] critic” whose underlying aim is to “force” the offending party to “admit just how very, very wrong he really was.”

I would also add that the decision to respond depends on what claim is being made. For example, I would not dignify a Holocaust denier with a response any more than I would respond to a member of the Flat Earth Society. “Cynical’s” comments were intended to provoke others to respond (and in my opinion, not personally offend any individual member). Most people disagreed with his claims, which were insupportable generalizations, but the issues he raised about the roles of men and women throughout history and how these roles have changed are legitimate subjects for debate and hardly extreme. He also made claims about the comparative beauty, charm and intelligence of CC’s hosts vs. American women. His remarks brought comments about the nature of the work that hosts do and to what extent economic necessity featured in their decision to take such employment.

As regards the content of “cynical’s” now expunged comments, nearly every respondent took issue with his assertions and expressed their opinions and objections openly. You on the other hand decided that “cynical’s” trite polemic should not have been posted in the first place (even though CC thought otherwise). You have every right not to dignify “cynical’s” comments with a reply and you have every right to voice your complaint to CC. But you accomplished your aim by inflating the gravity and intention of his post and distorting his admission of liking to “stir the pot” on occasion, as a basis for painting the man as “a person who admitted only having posted those very words to offend others in the first place.” Oh really? Where did he make this frank “admission” of his desire to “offend others?” To “stir the pot” is no doubt designed to rile others, but your claim that he “…use[d] this forum for the "sole" [my quotes], expressed objective of upsetting/offending many others” is not a conclusion one can fairly draw from his words, for it assumes you have some direct knowledge of his intention(s) (and the "underlying aims" of his critics) here in the Forum, that he has but one and that it is malevolent. That may be your take on it, but I think you are reading something into his position (and his "sham critics") that you cannot demonstrate is there.

I’m sure you were not alone in taking offense to “cynical’s” comments. I simply feel your thoughts and objections to “cynical” would have been best aired here rather than going to CC Admin and asking them to excise his words and those who responded to him. I share your concern that people communicate in a respectful manner. But why not join in the discussion rather than observing it from the outside as a self-appointed judge of what should or should not be allowed to be said?


I appreciate your objection to offensive speech and your reminder of CC’s published behavior policy. However, I trust you won’t mind if I take exception when you confidently claim,” I'm sure you'll agree that such an abuse of this forum constitutes a flagrant violation of that behavior policy.” The fact that CC posted “cynical’s” message in the first place would suggest what you describe as a “flagrant” violation was not unambiguously so. A violation? Perhaps. But your characterization of it as “flagrant” is unsupported by the evidence. In your zeal to root out and censor someone whose speech offended you, you have resorted to distortions and mischaracterizations. I commend you for coming forth and identifying yourself as the party who filed the complaint to CC, but the argument you make to justify your action, while understandable, is not finally persuasive and loses further weight by your ad hominem attacks on your critics as a bunch of gullible, naïve “sham critics” who failed to see the alleged injurious effects “cynical’s” words had on the Forum. For one so “easily offended,” I thought you would have been more sensitive before giving offense yourself.

Excuse me, but if you are getting so easily offended each time when people are saying their opinions (which can be equally either a truth or they could be mistaken),..I think it is your problem but not the people's, and the best thing in this case is to learn how to accept different points of view and how to make your own. Even the style of your post shows that you are still very far from understanding how to deal with different folks and what is FORUM is all about. You made many people here to feel that their opinions is nothing but only yours is important. So, who to whom owes apology?

I'm sorry to disapoint you, but I am not easily offended by just any opinion per se. What offended me in this specific matter is the very idea that a person would use this forum for the sole, expressed objective of upsetting/offending many others.
If you care to kindly take a look at the behaviour policy that governs this site, a policy that each and every person here has agreed to abide by to become a part of this community, I'm sure you'll agree that such an abuse of this forum constitutes a flagrant violation of that behavior policy.
Personally, being the forgiving and superior being that I am, I happen to humbly count myself as exceptionally kind for only having asked that the offending words be removed and not having requested the offending member have his membership revoked.

And now, for assuming so much of me and attacking me ONLY for your cynical, hyper-prejudicial imaginings, I kindly request that you apologise to me at your earliest convenience.

Hugs and kisses,

Easily Offended

read above.

not the only thread removed. recently part of chickory thread remove and another by wanda22. hard to understand censorship criteria coz i seen political stuff and anti us stuff remain. seems those are more bad?

If a message makes to the forum in the first place, it's not the censor employed by CamContacts that's deciding to take them down; someone who either spends money here or earns money here has complained and CamContacts is responding to that complaint.
I don't know why that's so difficult for you people to understand.
"thought police" .... Jesus, what melodrama.

Joe, Okay, your point is well taken, that “if a message makes it to the Forum in the first place” there was, by definition, no censorship. But if CC is responding to a member's complaint and deletes, post-facto, an already posted message, that is a kind of censorship, driven more by fear of lost revenue from paying customers---‘money talks’after all--- than moral principles and not because they found a message unworthy of posting. What’s more, I know from personal experience CC sometimes does this of its own accord; it is not always a consequence of a complaint. And hot political issues and religion are often the first posts to be excised. Your point is not “so difficult to understand.” It’s just not the only reason messages are deleted or not posted in the first place. In fact, I had to submit this very post—“Censorship”--- a second time, for it was not posted yesterday. Perhaps today's CC reviewer was a more discerning mind.

It seems to me CC is under no obligation to oblige every complaint by deleting the opinions of others as long as these opinions are not malevolent, overtly distasteful or outright hate speech. (Ironically, the not infrequent exchange of gratuitous adolescent insults among some members rarely gets deleted, whereas this did!) It seems to me the purpose of an Open Forum---for which CC deserves kudos---is to allow people to engage in reasoned arguments in a civil way, even if they take radically different views. In short, let members post their arguments where we can all participate and judge these arguments on their merits.

Finally, let me concede your point that my use of “thought police” was, in this context, a bit hyperbolic, but your characterization of it as “melodramatic” suggests a failure to appreciate---even in this small arena---the implications of prescribing and proscribing speech, rather than enjoying the freedom thereof.

thread has been removed in selected areas...cynical comment is no longer there in my area...and we'll see if this comment makes it. ;)

I got many messages censored, not at all because they were offensive to anyone but because contents was not found nice by CC. For instance one about "freedom of speech", which is the title of the Forum page. Some probabilitstic calculations about some recent game on CC. So just don't expect too much if you are not promoting a host or talking about sunny weather!

Agreed. There is a definite agenda, and point of view by the people deciding on what actually gets "published".

I have had many posts censored, no profanity, no attack against others, purely on political content. Let's see if this sees the light of day...but I doubt it??

this is not a political forum. duh. there are political forums at other sites.

Male, You are right. This is not a "political forum" in the formal sense, but all human relationships, from the simple (one human being to another) to the complex (one State or Nation to another) contain an element of the political. And while CC exercises a reasonable right to avoid such conflicts by disallowing posts with content (I am thinking here of current and long standing animosities among nations, different religious and ethnic groups, etc.) that is unambiguously designed to be hurtful to other members and/or hosts, it seems to me there is room for an exchange of ideas--even if these ideas are highly charged--provided we do not allow our differences to undermine our regard for each other’s humanity.

seems the way to get past the censorship is to throw down the gauntlet,challenge the cc censors,lol.

Well I am kinda surprised that even this thread managed to get started as I have to say from my own personal point of view I have had more posts pulled or prevented in the last 6 months that I have had in the previous 5 years. And I have posted an AWFUL LOT over the last 5 years.

The was a time when forum moderation was a passive concern and that the forum users were trusted to police themselves and to report any unacceptable behaviour, however it does seem there has been a markedly more pro-active stance that seem to be just a touch too over zealous on certain counts.

Considering that these forums have been around and quite functional for more years than the current owners of CC have been in charge one is left to posit the proverb "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

I for one would find CC to be destroying the best part of itself by alienating the community and constantly throttling it's free expression.

It has gotten so bad I even have to make copies of my post to either re-edit with the censors approval, or re-submit when a post conveniently get forgotten to be posted.

I am toying with the idea of sending out a news letter to all the people who appreciate my thoughts and would like to read them unedited. Sounds a be extreme to me but I too feel there is something that need s to be addressed.

"Freedom of speech, but no spam please"

Does seem to sound a little hollow these days.

TNTHACCATCCANIL

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congrat, MissCBT! Apparently you are a good ambassador of naked truth :)

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very rarely agree with you TNT except for now. i know of one forum that is totally uncensored but not here. re your news letter, as you are 100% biased against members, i think its not a good idea.

While I sympathetic I have often been censored myself and would bet at a greater rate than you. Some subjects are strictly taboo. I believe CC would benefit from more openess. CC is still the best of its kind but lately has become less responsive to its members. I recall when CC used to respond to members questions in these forums. Rarely does that happen anymore with the exception of technical issues which they respond to quickly. I realize CC is a business and that much of which goes on behind the scenes they have good reasons for. If they would at least resond to some member requests if only to say "such and such" is not possible or "we are considering". Instead, we are frequently left in a vacuum of information whereas there is far more responsiveness to requests from hosts IMO. CC has produced many great innovations like 121 but reading these forums, one gets the impression that what once was a good idea is being misused by many. Yet we have no information from CC in this area.

This whole thread makes me uncomfortable....maybe I should ask CC to remove it.....lol

OK, OK...so my misgivings, misplaced? We shall see!

you can ask them to remove whatever you want,as long as you DON'T remove your clothes,again!!! lol

bbko, Lol! No need to call CC. The State will likely take care of this. In most cases it has the necessary designs in place to insure you feel nothing that makes you feel uncomfortable. Above all, do not think! Take your Soma* and call me in the morning.

* 'Ask your doctor if Soma is right for you.' Side effects may include an artificially induced sense of well being and occasional uneasiness if you associate with anyone or read anything that might cause you to doubt the essential soundness of your beliefs. This may result in a temporary loss of happiness. Should this last for more than three days, call your doctor. If you have never taken Soma call 1-800-FREEDOM and ask a free trial offer.

ewwwwwwwwwww we dont wanna look up ur ass!!!! LOOOOOOOL

some dirty ass he has :x

i want to look up his ass

i take that as a compliment--thanks

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Well someone told her she has ' Nice ears ' ....... hmmm , is that a compliment you look for btw ? and the problem for me was that because her head was so big I couldnt admire any other part of her :-)))

Oh dear, shame on you Zulu, I award you shit-stirrer of the month award. Just as forums were becoming nice. You know exactly what's going to happen now......same old, same old.......... Hope I'm wrong but.....:-(

Remember, it's nice to be nice

Hmmm , the post is tongue in cheek and mischevious with a wink . Your comment is a bit wet Nick , you read and post to the forums too much and take it all too seriously . I have had a good teacher who has helped me with being a little more evil and a little less nice and I tell you its fun !! :P besides I wasnt looking for reference to the usual host egos ........ some new ones would be nice

Huh huh :D roosters fight hihihihi.Im gonna sit comfy on my couch and watch it, savouring delicious PINK champagne and some NUTS ;).Goooo Zuluuuuu ( throwing my legs up in the air and agitating histerically some cheerleading pompoms) :)

Can i join u?:*:*)))))))

I want to watch

Wishes are for free, dream on :)

Yess ofcourse you can, you're welcome.Take a sit and a cup of champagne pls, and lets make some bets :)

Deal(K)(K)

ok where do i buy tickets for that?

Girls , Girls , Girls !! Calm down :))))) , although Nicky's comments are a bit wet doesnt mean he is not a bad guy and does not mean I am going to get out my proud rooster for you to enjoy although I know you are desperate to see him . As comfort to this disappointment I will show you both some of my sexy dance moves .... provided you ask nicely :-))) and in person ( if you know who i am ) , but be warned my dance moves carry a health warning for women :)))))

health warning= stomach churning?

calm down, you take offence too easily - not that serious either! :-) and thanks for advising me of post quotas ;-)) lol

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good one slutp, but got to ask what happens around the fish section.......

you get eaten by a fucking shark, what do you think

you get a fish smell

No, you think you are in CC
Fishy whew

you have blind men saying hello ladies

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Do they sell condoms? Oh no! its Kenneth Williams (for Brits only I guess)

forget the fish section, I'm heading to the tampon isle...btw when is CC going to come out with "smell-o-vision"?

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I like to celebrate with gold balls

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Agree, but also nor Man's Day, nor Woman's Day, nor any other date shouldn't be just a one day when we remembered suddenly that there are our dear people around and we must show them how much we love them by bringing a flowers once in a year.

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Women never had it so good! ;p

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Hi you should know i am taken, but i give you many kisses ;-) poka poka

Welcome back

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Unusual rainy season... but it can be refreshing! Good luck and use your talents to let guys' "flower" grow fast and proudly!

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or do a demographic before the next question & answer period. ;p.
Simple question... is business good or is business not good. Let me help you.
The sex business is always good. A horny toad will spend his last dollar not on food, but on a woman and, therefore, the answer to the question...yeah, business is booming! (even if she looks like a skank!). ;p

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for hosts only?

Good
site.

no host will ever admit, business is down, it will affect pricing.
they all say, its all wonderful.
Trust me, i know, it sucks for them right now.

not true, over time the hosts have oftened chattered about business being down at times

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depends on what time your are on line. american guys take 6/8 hrs longer to get horny:)

i have to admit that i am indeed worried.I have never had problems with the lack of members (i remember the times when i used to have 3-4 guys in vid at the same time)but now it sucks.For me it started going slow in december and it got worse and worse.If the recession lasts for 2 yrs i am fucked:).

I have noticed there are far more hosts online at any given time of day. I also noticed that prices have risen about 20-25% overall. The number of sub-$1.00 hosts is much lower than a year ago. The ones that remain seem to be in video much of their time online. I also notice a lot of new very expensive hosts. Not sure who goes to see a girl at $4.00 a minute especially in non-adult categories but logic says if they weren't making any money they would not be here. Goes back to the old argument does a host want to work 10 minutes an hour for 3 bucks a minute or 60 minutes an hour at .50 cents an hour.

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all good 4 me . never had more clients than now but most boys that visit me from uk . americans only come to me very quick and leave without good bye... no manners i guess in usa

Ouch))

On behalf of all Americans I offer my humble apologies.

Your powers of deductive reasoning are quite remarkable.

Wow you really know how to drum up business. You must be making so much on those Brits you can't be bothered with us Yanks. Duly noted.

agree

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Maybe I can get in on a "piece of the action"...looool!!!

Ori always dresses the part all credit due. its so boring when photos show exciting lingerie iand host is waiting in old shorts:(

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hmmm, well ... I may be way off base here but I think the point he is trying to make is that looking at the profile pics of some of the chicks on here one could kinda get the idea that they were fucking hot but then reality steps in a kicks you in the nads once you get them into video and find that the semi-decent chick you were expecting has magically transformed into some partially-hideous skank. So either these chicks are naturally hot and choose to skank themselves up for video, or they have damn good makeup artists for the pics ... but I may be wrong, it has been known to happen sometimes, not this century but there is always a first time.

this ain't rocket science. It's easy to be skanked out, but natural beauty is another story and there are a few here .

Aye there Eric... and I would like to add beauty is what you make of it and a lot of what you are accustomed to is not what reality is all about. Better stop chasing an impossible dream and love beauty of the self not of the selfishness.

They seemed to have rearranged their site but the Campaign for Real Beauty has an entertaining video called "Dove Evolution" which is available via a popular website for watching videos on which rhymes with YouLube. Just put that string in and search for it. Apparently I am not allowed to make direct links these days.



The Campaign for real beauty is still going strong and more people should realise their is such a gulf between media, magazines, TV and film and REAL LIFE (tm) our perceptions of what is really 'beautiful' is biased.



And please visit the Campaign for Real Beauty's website.

http://www.campaignforrealbeauty.com/

Isn't it about time you accepted people for who they are not what they look like?

TNTLRWWRHARSARB

Thank you for the link, TNT :)
I think it is a really global problem in perception of a real beauty among the humans. And the question here is not only to a women how they feel with their natural appearance but also to a men, how far they follow those standards of "ideal" woman and how much they pay attention to it. It is not a secret that any woman wants to be beautiful outside because of a man who chooses her among the others according to her shapes, weight, height, hair, etc. which standards he has taken from the magazines, podiums and movies very often. Lets suppose that there were only a women on the earth. I bet they would be happy with any kind of their appearance :) So, the main reason why they're so concerned about their bodies is a man of course. The same is vice versa in the attitude of a women to a men's appearance.
The bottom line is...We cannot totally change these things but we all can think at least, what is more important for us, to be and to have a cold beautiful doll, or to be and to have a real, warm and responsive person whose inner beauty can take the shine out of any wished on standards of a body. I know it is a bit strange to talk it on the site like this one, but lets remember that we all have our real lives apart of our computers.

Quite so LG :) And something in what you said reminds me of a funny quote by a well known actor.

"According to a new survey, women say they feel more comfortable undressing in front of men than they do undressing in front of other women. They say that women are too judgemental, where, of course, men are just grateful."

Robert De Niro.

Well I like it hehe ;)

TNTKKMLL

Yeah, funny and partly true IF to forget how many men are still trying another beautiful woman's body, but never finding the *perfect* one, so they cannot stop their tryings...lol. But that is for another thread :)

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self-promoting by being in the forum. :)

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woah ... three clichés in not even three full lines ... was that intentional?

;p

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so true, some wear same clothes every night, i should know, he he.

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I think some of the personal profile pictures here are amazingly well done. Very well posed, lighted and professionally taken. When I ask some of the girls say they do it themselves, some have the studio boss, other hosts or friends take them and I am sure a few have their nonexistent bf or husband take them. All in all I am very impressed. Some time and effort go into to many. Some. Not so much. Some are taken so far away it is hard to make out any detail, some insist on hiding their faces (generally that is a good idea), others are just not flattering and you wonder what is the host thinking? I like pictures taken outside of a studio at a beach, or on vacation, or just standing around in normal settings. For me it casts the host as a regular girl and that helps me relate to her and understand a bit about her personality.

As for how they look in video. Look you sit your ass in front of a computer in the dead of night after a day of school and see how you look. Sure they look tired, some the hair is a bit beat and the makeup and attitude is fading but a beautiful girl is a beautiful girl regardless. Maybe that is the demarcation point. A truly beautiful girl will look beautiful regardless...less beautfiul their looks suffer a bit with stress.

All in all I admire the hosts here. Most do a good job. I am more concerned about bad attitudes than less than picture perfect looks.

Agree in detail.

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get an apartment buy computers internet connection then find the girls...kinda simple whe u think about it aint it

you could always hire the russian girls that some other fools have paid to import to the states and have subsequently dumped or been dumped by them for some mysterious reason ;))

Ahhhh yes, the "Beautiful Russian Brides" scam. Lol! Have I got a deal for you :)

not just the 'bride' scam...the western union help me scam...the meet me for sex/money scam...my family member sick/money scam...and on and on...

You also have to worry about local zoning and criminal laws, how to handle income taxes on the worker's pay, recuriting and retaining attractive girls who understand how to market themselves and maximize profits for you and them,

The local studios in many of the countries, such as Russia, are illegal and as such are a part of a widespread underground economy.

As for taxes, you raise an interesting question, since the parent company---as a provider of services over the internet---is often elusive. There is a whole body of law that attempts to address the question of "where", for tax purposes, a business "is" that is essentially operating in cyberspace, making its location ambiguous. A company may have a base of operations in Europe, for example, but its domain may be registered in the Carribean, with banking operations in Asia and billing services in the US. As for studio owners, my sense is that those guys are not even on the map.

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I would also buy some computer keyboards with no upper case letters.

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But what if someone reports you to the police or the mafia? Does that thought frighten you?

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:)

if you can't figure out the basics (i.e. rent apt/house, computers, internet, web cam, hire girls), you're gong to have a steep learning curve. Plus I don't think any studio boss or host will give you the full details, why would they help someone dilute thier earning pool.

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Let me start by saying that you are absolutely stunning, a true beauty with intelligence to match...

Now what will that get me I wonder? :-)

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To a better place, I think. A more spiritual plane... 'cause it obviously ain't doing me any good down here on cc :-)

But I meant everything I said... :-))))))

About 20 dollars deeper in debt.

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I think what he is trying to say is that the Fed EX man is well known to the girls. Can't help feeling there is something missing from the story/joke. Not sure how all the women can recognise seven different men's privates and he wasn't even there. Hell I am thinking too hard about this. Just to say hope you are well Gortensia and sure you are looking forward to 25th. Take care and i will talk to you soon
Yoshhi aka C

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Hi Gortesia I am here but only as a guest. Still keep trying to chat with you on cam but ppl here are being rather silly. If you have time would love to know what you are doing in life now (as well as working here). If you are interested about dates it is 29 of 9 as you forgot to send me a Valentines message maybe a nice message on this day would be good Take care. Yoshii(I was joking about the Valentines message, guess you were to busy reading the thousands that you got).

Raul will step in and put a McDonald's on ever city block in Havana.

and capitalism will collaps and China will remain as only super power

and they will all be fat and happy and forget about fidel

I pray that Cuba and the USA will break bread one day soon. Cuban culture is warm and beautiful.

Raul will open video studios in habana and hire nice cubanas to do shows in instant action, mmmmmmmmmmmmm

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capitalist everywhere r frothing at the mouth...but i congratulate him for fending off the consumer threat from usa...bringing free health care, free education to his country!!

This IS a consumer site, you DO realize, eh pinko?

Just vote for John McCain and cross your fingers that one of the first of the wars he's promising will be to overthrow the Cuban government.

good deal...please line-up to go or be sure to send you son/daughter to defend the capitalist fear-monger society.

If nothing happens..it will be as it has been since 1959 and nothing has happened in 49 years.

Can someone tell me what's up with Fidel and those damn fugly track suits?
Did he sign some kind of sponsorship deal with Adidas or something?

He got them on the cheap from China

It's not even a track suit. It looks like a fancy janitors uniform.

been wearing them since he got sick,

Fidel is to Lenin what Raul is to Stalin. It will only get worse

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If I were you...I'd be more concerned abut what happens when Putin steps down!

No more poisioning?

not really stepping down is he

free elections?

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something call marketing I think ... clearly some of these chicks aren't as stupid as they look ...

too funny

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:p

old eyes leo baby kisses

whats ur point? hosts cant change their hairstyle anymore? hosts HAVE to stay the same way forever just to plz the members? what about the members that change their screen names? why aint u battering them down?

I don't believe anyone was "battered down". Chill alittle.

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So, you like noodles? ;p

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what type of noodles do you like???????????

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bald might be interesting

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Its called good business. I prefer that to the girls who remain the same and get stale and complacent about their job. But I agree for us old regulars it can get comical.

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I remember this song was recorded by the Beatles. Nice song. Thank you.

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do YOU think EVERY post has to be interesting for EVERYONE?

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and whats a popper Tanusha ? :P

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Nice profile pic, Miss Dizzy Lizzie... you make me want to take up fingerpainting again :-)

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Mmmm sorry dear... last time I fingerpainted was long before you were a mote in your old man's eye.

Good Golly Miss Molly
I'd sure like to ball.

nice litttle addy lizzy , but new ? klem

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hmmm... if you put it that way... maybe the ones who are not smart enough to make money in another type of job?

for viewers this is just payed entertainment like any other, that's all.

this is enjoyable and easy, why have another job if this pays well enough?!

because of the shame you feel for not being smart enough to qualify for a job that pays even more.

Try to come to Romania or Russia and find a well paid job here, and then we will talk

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move

Is it the smartest asnwer you can give? to move?

aren't you smart enough to move?

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So the only way to make money there is in the sex business? Jezzzz what a country.

If you want good money, normal living and not to worry about tomorrow, yes sex biz is the best opportunity,... of course you can be a high level manager too, then you would make as much as good hosts make here..but not everyone can be topmanager in a company :) You can still be a politician here, putting all the money into your pocket what EU sends you to support the country..bet you would never think of working here. You can even be in the mafia..no need to work here either :)) You can be an enterpreneur related to governmental circles...knowing the inside infos.having all of those cute offshore companies where you save together the citizens money for yourself, you would never think of working here.:) On the other side..Hired by the goverment? Or by a multinational co? Using my masters degree? Come on, the country is full of young people with legal and economic degrees.. It's much better here..It's nobody's fault where you were born, you don't have to make fun of others.You must be lucky that you were born somewhere else.

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you can pretend as much as you want. I probably do. Do you make more than 200 000 per year?

For how long will you be able to keep the 200 000 per year? (which i doubt you can make)

or the ones who do all the work only to get 50% of the 50% their boss gets of the 50% total earned from the site. Tee hee.

I dont work from studio ;)

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say whatever you want

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Very divisive question HOST. I'm sure you meant to infer that the members are the stupid ones and if that's the case keeping ur nickname anonymous was a good idea. Most members are smart enough to avoid a HOST who insults the entirety of the group. However, I must say that the hosts that I know are very intelligent. I now realise that by attempting to answer ur question I just got alot more stupid so I give up trying.

she meant to imply, you mean, not infer.

dave the only reason the hosts u know seem intelligent is coz ur a dumbass....but then again put u next to me ur like einstien..DOH :(

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promises...promises...please honor us with your promises!!

Well that is very easy for me to answer . The host I go to see has already told me that I am the stupid one and she is the smart one in the partnership :-))) . Regardless of anything I say , I have been firmly told I am the dumb one !! :-) Well I suppose I can comfort myself with being the funny one like Stan Laurel , Lou Costello , Jerry Lewis , Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels etc.

hmmm since u ask, probably those who don't make money, ur sugestion is otherwice callled successfull busuness.

HOST since you choose to be so black and white on this issue and only offer one or the other... I will say the members (the ones spending the money) are the stupid ones HERE. But keep your ego in check, HOST, because that is ONLY HERE. By your definitions, you are just as stupid as the members EVERYWHERE you spend the money you've earned. Something to think about before being so quick to feel superior to anyone. Kinda sucks the pleasure out of all those shopping sprees now, doesn't it?

its attitude. very prevalent here.

now that argument makes loads of sense
huh?

It does make loads of sense "a noun". Perhaps you need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills. I will summarize it for you... HOST asks a question which implies that because she earns money on this site she is more intelligent than all the people that spend money on this site... thus boosting her ego and allowing herself to feel superior to her customers. However she fails to realize that by taking the model which she has created for this site and expanding it to encompass all of the places in which she is a customer in her life, it by default, implies that she is less intelligent than the people she gives money to in exchange for goods and services that she recieves from them. Simple.

host say anything about blowing all the money shopping or is that your intelligent deduction, argument does not hold water without tht declaration er part now does it

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Seems like a stupid question to ask.

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u had to pay to pass ur exams? damn u really r more stoopid than we all thought..good luck tho :)

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thats a fair point...should i do the same? :p

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we gave you a high school diploma? it's true then our schools are in bad shape

kind of like the system where u hand them out on the net. as for the crued sites ,i guess there still are a lot of cowboys without any diploma bossing around there in far off places, must have beeen quite a job Ori

diplomas are for suckers. there just tokens to grant people entry as mindless cogs in the machine.

actually i think this calls for a congressional investigation since ori is star, so that those congressman the poor victims of our schools keep electing, can prove beyond all shadow of doubt that our school system has failed

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exhibit a for instance in the missouri schools they neglected to teach the spelling of SPRINGIELD, the investigation goes on

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did you lose a pinky finger in the war?:O

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Yes, very nice.

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I wasn't going to continue this thread but you've puzzled me...
I'm afraid I just can't find a relation of your reply with my original post.

Anyway...If you meant that "Bulat Okudzhava now is a bit forgotten in Russia" because he was a Georgian, it is not what I meant...Yes, he was born in Georgia but then lived till his death in Moscow and still associated with USSR. I mean that these days lots of extraordinary people including from any of former republics were almost forgotten. That is very sadly and a big loss. There was a time in 50-60-70ss of great poets, actors, etc...Some people still remember and love that period despite the wrongs which we all know very well.
As for our "red past"...well, my point is that there cannot be a simple answer. There were good things with a bad ones mixed together. As you said, it takes a time for people to realize what they've lost instead of what they have got...The same I can say about Russian culture. Along with a brilliant talents we have a lots of real rubbish. But I think nowadays it is a common trend all over.

and russian filmakers from those periods are passed over as well. as today...you can blame your political leadship, little respect for the resources devoted to the older generations...too much focus on youth...which is the problem with capitalist consumer driven society's...so welcome to the west...maybe lenin and marx had it right.

No, I'm sorry, but they didn't.

You could always move to Cuba and relive your glorious communist past.
If you're an artist of any stripe though, just be mindful that you don't produce anything that casts the regime in a bad light... A Cuban prison I'm sure is much better than a gulag, but still...

keep it up

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Its not easy to be in love with a host, there are always suspicions but after 3 years I have come to terms with her work! She has to do it to survive and live, I understand that. She would not choose to do this work but has no other choice at this time. Its all about trust! And the same applies in reverse, I am a member of this site and she trusts me to stay faithful to her too! If you have trust then anything is possible!

if it was me i would support whatever desicion she thinks would be best for her...if ur in love with someone it doesnt matter what they do for a living..ur with the person and take all that they do with it

if only all guys thought and respect decisions of their girls as you .. :-) thnx for answers anyhow. now i feel less "bitchy" for my bf.. cos i said truth to him and was afraid of his reaction . )

All guys wouldn't be happy about it.

As for "i would support whatever desicion she thinks would be best for her." I wonder what if your gf was a prostitute who sucked and fucked twenty guys a day without a condom.

The "I respect whatever decision she makes" is a false statement that is made with your own internal limits intact.

give imshy credit - he is just saying, as I understand him, love is acceptance

Oh yes, if my lover who sold heroin and did the occasional hit job it wouldn't bother me at all, as long as the money came in and we didn't fight.

It is not the best job and I would worry a bit about guys trying to seduce her into reality, but I could be serious about her as a gf. However, once we applied for the visa I would ask her to stay away from Not So Shy category and once she got the visa I would ask her to quit this site.

i question you if you come here in search of a real relationship...most girls here...despite what they tell you...r here for the money...they get seduced by it and/or/refuse to develop any other of their talents...from the member perspective...it is similar...funny enough...except you loose your money. ;)

i agree i was hooked on c.c. it can be additicative...bu ti am better now...

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no, i didn't come here for that - i only answered the question that was asked

so you would get her to your country and then expect her to give up her job so she can sit around and cook and clean for you?

The intelligent, educated and charming girls on cc would hardly sit home. Do you happen to think the only thing they can do is be a chat host? Shit, I've met doctors and nurses here. I've met engineering and computer science students.

Where, where, where?
Company executives too? LOOOOOOOL!!!! Oh please!!!

Jealousy and lack of trust is a killer. Even for NonA in vid, a little niggle of doubt creeps in. But, if it is true love then trust is everything.

Any dude who would get all jealous and shit over some other dude who has to pay to spend time with you is a fool.
Don't stand for it, babe. A guy like that is more trouble than he's worth. Set that loser free and find yourself an understanding dude instead.

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Husbands and b/f and even family members will never be jealous. They benefit from your work. It is in their self-interest as much as it is yours to be working here. They encourage and pimp your existence ! Don't think for one minute they respect you or honor your work here.

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Why do you think it is not the best way to earn money?
Especially if you live somewhere in eastern europe where 3000$ a month can provide you a brilliant lifestyle.
I know girls in England giving up their stupid full time jobs to enjoy the easy money from here.
And why would my husband think less of me. He respects me and my decisions in life, loves me and takes very good care of me.
He knows I only enjoy the cash from here and is happy as long as he doesn't need ot pay for my 100+ pounds bags and shoes LOL.
I'm sure many of the chathosts make more money than the viewers and enjoy much better lifestyles.

sure husband's don't complain! You tell they don't enjoy the money you earn?? They don't have to work so hard coz you provide money to them?? Tell me that's not true...

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i'll bet he won't be around so long with you...trust me...he'll need some self respect at some point in his life...or maybe not ;)

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My gf worked here, it is were i met her, she is the kindest most beautiful lady i have met...and every lady i met and talked to here is ...."a lady"a simple word bu tthe truth...she doe s not work here now....i am glad...but i will never think any ill words about her time here...it is were i met her..so i thank c.c......and for people who would say bad words...you are here also do these words no tapply to you?

I know I wouldn't accept it. I wouldn't take any girl from this site seriously. I met many hosts who were with guys from their city towns, married or just living together as boyfriends. These girls were friends of mine and some of them still are, but most of them confessed to had fallen in love with me or other members. Their confessions made me look at reality and know that girls or women that are exposed to these type of jobs are not recommendable. Guys can stop coming here and continue their real life and forget about everything, but girls due to their sentimental nature keep in touch with most members using emails, messengers, sms. these members become part of their daily life up to the point of falling in love with them. So my answer is no. I wouldn't like my gf or wife to do this.

A double standards are among the things which always amaze me. Why do you, men, think that you are somehow "cleaner" or have a "higher" moral than the girls who work here? Why it is you who should judge a girl according to what she is doing? Doesn't any girl here on CC or there in real life have to decide if to marry a guy when she knows he can come on the porn site and pay for the live video?
If to call this kind of work a "bad thing" or a "sin" or somehow else...then lets face it, man is the one who TAKES PART, so the second person in that interaction, then they both are a sinners. But if to admit that there is nothing wrong with this work, so where is a problem then? Just a little thing is required - to be honest with yourself and to start judging yourself first...
Hmmm...being such a moralists, why not to spend a time in the museums and art galleries or just read a good book before going to sleep?

one thing you probably never heard of is that men are men regardless what we do we will never have anything lose as opposed to women that have a reputation to care for. Also, we are not the ones being paid to serve others sins. We pay, but girls can always say no. Do we lose anything by trying? No. Would a real good girl perform a strip tease for other than her husband or bf? No Go and figure it out :-P

I assure you that I have heard many things in my life, and this one too. I have heard this fictive theory and bombastic idea of men's impeccability many times, and I am sure it still lives because it is very suitable for men like you who cover their own sins and justify their own disloyalty "regardless what they do"...Who said to you that men should be a special caste? Have you ever heard the law that BOTH men and women must keep their souls in fairness and their bodies in purity? But ah, it is so hard to keep, so men created their new law which let them to violate the first one, and which let them to use a woman and then to judge her...
Before to judge others everyone has to start from judging his own principles.

I totally agree that women should keep their reputation, but don't tell me that men are those who are exceptions. So, go and figure it out...

men and women will be judged the same. it depends on how you feel inside and how you are prepared to live with yourself to what degree you are willing to deny your inner reality and maybe you prefer to deny it because you do not want to suffer so you continue to do the same things that you will always do and you will never change and hope to be a better person inside for yourself only not for what others think of you.

no one is clean that walks this earth. but all have a choice to make about everything. some will make easier choice some will compromise less to maintain their diginity. others have never known self respect or understand or even care to understand the meaning.

I don't agree, but in the end, if I had a marriage with a girl from here I would prefer she use her education and get a job that would challenge and enrich her.

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is this some contest? The most greedy wins? Does money give you power over men?? Be honest...what's your real intent? Conquer the male sex?

your right...they play with their members...some seriously taking money outside of here...now if your wife is walking around the office showing her pussy...well, just maybe there could be problems. ;)

I dont trust any girl that works here or any video chat site. If she lost dignity, self respect, principles, and morals already. What else can be hard for her to lose? She will easily get rid of me as soon as the next man comes in.

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isn't that just the best and most hypocritical analysis I've read in this thread. bravissimo!

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And I shouldn't trust your dignity or morals for being a viewer??

I am not the sex servant who benefits from others' lowest needs ;-)

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How can you have respect for a woman who doesn't respect herself?

if she's hot, i think i can fake it.

Why do you think we don't have self respect.

I wouldn't like it. It is one thing when she is single and depends on working here fo earn a living, but something different after she is married. If she is living with her husband and he earns enough to support them both comfortably and live a decent lifestyle, if she loves and respects her husband and their marriage, then why would a wife want to go online and show her body and be sexual with other men? And it is not only the showing and the performing for other men... it is the close and emotional bonds she forms with these men... sometimes telling them things that should only be shared with her husband. I don't agree with the "it is my body and i will do what i want with it... i am independent" attitude. if that is how you feel, don't get married... it is that kind of "modern" thinking that has caused the divorce rates to sore in "modern" times. in marriage your body is not yours... it is a gift to your other half... that is the way it was intended...and neither should abuse their gifts... but cherish them and strive to keep them special to the other. if a person does that in a marriage then jealousy is a rare thing. for a married person a place like this can easily come between you and your mate. as i said if a woman was married and didn't need to be here financially why would she choose to be? just because the viewer cannot touch her does not mean she is not giving him a piece of her real self... have you ever heard of emotional cheating? when a person shares personal thoughts and feelings and emotions with someone besides their partner... begins sharing with them things they have never told their partner and developing a deep emotional connection and feelings for that person. it slowly robs the marriage of it's intimacy. think of the ways you show love... sharing secrets, feelings... giving them your time... giving them your energy... giving them your laughter... giving them your soul... giving them your body.... when you begin to give these things to others when they should be given to your partner it is cheating.... because you are taking away from your partner. a wife being on a site like this opens herself up to temptation... falling in love with the attention and compliments of other men... developing bonds and feelings for other men, etc. that slowly shift her focus from her marraige and her husband and draw her deeper and deeper into this world... until she spends more time with these men online and shares more of herself with them than she does her husband and the marriage falls apart.

caveman I presume you are not married

you are correct polka dot, i am not married. but i have a high respect for marriage.

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no question about that.

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so both parties are equal and responsible for their actions...of deception, deceit, passion, promises, sorrow, bitterness, envy, shame, pride, and all the rest of base instincts that drive people here.

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a host.. you speak too broadly... I didn't say ALL the women here do not have self-respect and for your counter... not all the members here are married, so they hide nothing from a wife. As I said before, if a woman is single and working as a host to support herself... fine. If she is married and has to work to help financially and this kind of work is the only option that is available to her that she could earn enough... I think it is sad, but I understand she must do what is necessary for her and her husband to survive. But what about the married women that do not have to be working here for financial reasons... the ones who have husbands that earn enough to support them both and give them a decent lifestyle without her being a chathost and stripping and being sexual with other men? Why are those women hosting? I did not say these women do not respect themselves... I am sure they have plenty of self-respect, however, I think they have very little respect for their marriages. They are hosting just to have adult fun and be sexual with other men... they are doing it for their own selfishness and egos. People can try to protect their conscience by arguing it is just harmless fun because no one is physically touching... that it isn't cheating... but deep down they know it is wrong... that it is cheating and that they shouldn't be doing these things with anyone except their partner. If you came home one day and found your partner and a stranger of the opposite sex sitting naked on opposite sides of the kitchen table, talking dirty to each other and watching each other masturbate would you be pissed off and think they were doing something wrong even though they weren't touching? Most likely you would call them a cheater. So why try to argue that it is ok if they were doing the same thing on computers over the internet? You know it is not. In both cases they are doing the exact same thing, the only actual difference is the distance between them while they do it. And before any host tries to make an argument about married men being here... you are right... I think married men are wrong for being here as well. Both are equally wrong.

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"lol", I wonder, why did you get married? Also, if your husband didn't want you doing this work, or be doing/showing certain things in video, would you care? Everything in your post, was about you... you'll do what you want, you'll work where you want, you'll show what you want... and nobody has the right to say anything about it because you are your own person and you will do it even if you don't need the money. It sounds very selfish and childish of you. Marriage isn't about being independent... it's about being co-dependent. Marriage isn't about "you will do whatever you want when you want", it is about being repectful of your spouses feelings and doing what is best for the both of you. Since you boast about having a degree in psychology, you should be even more aware of these simple concepts than most people. You speak as if you have a happy marriage, but I wonder how true that is... you seem so caught up in yourself and your own desires that I don't think you have even bothered to ask your husband about what he wants and if he is happy in the marriage or to really listen to how he feels about the things you do... nor would you care enough to stop doing them if they did hurt or bother him. That is precisely what I was talking about in my previous post when I said "I believe they have little respect for their marriages". If you want to be part of two independent people living their own lives but living in the same house, don't get married, just get a roommate. If you want to experience real love, respect, understanding and intimacy in a marriage then you have to stop living for yourself and start living for each other... and that means not always doing what you want.

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