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Since you are in Dungeon, your sissy boys do all the work and you can sit back and dominate.

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mmmmm me too... but I think we might be thinking a little differently.

By the way, anyone with that type of figure, pleas post so I don't miss seeing you. :p

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I have that type of figure, and I'm online now.

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I'm a guy

and I'm not a host.

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you have a great body too !

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Just move on to the others that charge less....just because she is new doesn't mean she is hot and neither does her price. I don't understand why these things bother members so much with so many to choose from. Write in her personal forum if you want to tell her or them.
They are in business and if they can make it on that price then let them be...if not then they will reduce it or leave. It is that simple.

My post was not a complaint about prices. It wasn't about her price bothering me. I respect a host's right to charge what she wants and generally don't ask for discounts or passwords or post that prices are too high. If anything, I think a few hosts have prices that are too low, but unless they are my friends, I think I will keep that to myself, lol.

But in the situation I described, almost nobody will like her price, and she will be ignored. And perhaps she is a popular host from another site that we would enjoy. But if nobody visits her, she might just leave and go back to wherever she came from and figure CC just wasn't any good.

I see new hosts do what I described all of the time, and everyone loses. She loses since nobody visits her, and members lose since a potentially good host leaves the site. Yes, members could visit her at her price if they really want to, but very few will. But if she lowered it a bit, more members could enjoy visiting her, and she could be successful on CC.

As to posting in her forum, that is a good idea except she probably doesn't even know it is there. Maybe an email would be better.

I guess that I will just forget about hosts like that. Usually, I just shake my head and think "No way that price will work," and move on when I see a host that I know has a price that is too high. I was just trying to see if there was a way to try to deal with the situation and give them some advice when they were new.

#1 You sound very much like the alias Member (categories) hhmmm?

#2 Others don't necessarily think as you do so they might not find that price offensive and would visit her.

#3 I am sure she will figure it out on her own if her room is empty all the time.

#4 Just enjoy being a member with the amount of control that you have with the choice of what category to visit to excite your senses and then pick a host and if you are not entertained then pick a different host. Make the ones you like favorites and enjoy them.

#5 Let the hosts run their business as they see fit within the Rules & Guidelines of CC. If you have a suggestion for a host or want to praise her then write her an email or leave her a message in her personal forum.

# Be happy!!

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it is just pity that these hosts dont want to listen and learn, pity for cc... because i seen it many times, these hosts who work on other sites with higher price come to cc, try with same price 4.99, and in one week they say this is crappy site and they dont get any traffic in here and they can only think that it is because CC dont have traffic, and they tell this also to others.

u forgett something quite important the daily number of a host's hours online, some hosts are working on more sites so they avoid the empty room, and if they earn for example 1.25 a minute their share why would they waste their time for less mostly if they have a limited time to be online.
Think how now using performernotification their regulars can find them here and come here only for a cheaper price, they will loose their money they got used with.
All hosts are calculating their earnings as a medium income per hour online, maybe these girls opened here an account to have an supllimentary earning not to lower their existing medium earnings.
Girls who work on multiple sites they don.t "belong" to just one, they will come and go open or close one site according to their general earnings PER HOUR ONLINE.
Same works for me : I will not loose a pvt of 1.25 min (my share) in the favour of another pvt of 0.75 min (my share) and i.ll not loose my good spenders from another site because they will come here finding me with 1/3 of the price they got used with.
So, i must make a compromise between those 2 principles and i.m fixing here the same price of the other ones but as it should be a FanClub advantage just a bit lower , not much.

Kinda confused...when hosts "complain" about that other hosts have a too low charge .. every member complains at his turn that isnt normal for us(hosts) to get stressed about it .. that every host should do what ever she wants and charge how much she wants ..

But when some hosts have a higher charge then members are used with.. again there appear some members complaining about it ...
So where's the logic?Cause i don't get it...

As always,i don't wanna sound rude,but as you said " it would be nice if someone could explain this to her when she first arrives.",instead wanting someone to explain her how things are working in this site,you should do it!
As an answer to: "when she first arrives" .. Better later then never :)

Who is to say that she doesn't do great at that price?? Sounds like you are brain washed by lowball viewers that complain about prices.
Maybe she does fantastic and she laughs at other hosts so cheap...lol.

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Yes I was and this was your comment: it would be nice if someone could explain this to her when she first arrives.",instead wanting someone to explain her how things are working in this site,you should do it!
Maybe she is doing well at that price and she is laughing at hosts with such a cheap price like you seem to think she should be at!! It is her choice so let her be!! She might be doing great!!

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Not all viewers are at a 50% for the host. Quite often it is much lower when they come from another site so each must determine for themselves. Who (besides the original poster) says she isn't doing very good??

My husband tends to advise everybody about everything, and funny he is always right but everybody hates him for that.
So he becomes sad and frustrated asking me why everybody hates him as long as he was right since beginning?
I keep telling him : u cannot advise a person against her will, against her culture, against her life(age) experience, against her perception and temporary needs. All people need to discover life by themselves and build their own experience. That.s what LIFE is, after all: explore it by ourselves, building our own experience and getting our own opinions about ...anything.

Let the hosts live by their own guidelines, it.s so simple, as long as nobody owns the absolute truth.

Its very simple supply vs demand.

Exactly and people keep shopping at Sax 5th Avenue, Nordstrom, etc and appreciate and will pay the extra money for the quality and service that they are buying :))

Yes, and the philosophy of such establishments is "the customer is always right"...which I doubt is a policy you subscribe to.

They don't give anything away like you would want so I am sure you would never be happy!!

You really should learn not to pass judgement on things or people you know nothing about. I am sure you are familiar with Wittgenstein's famous remarks on the subject. I pay the asking price for whatever I want and NEVER seek to haggle: I have way too much class for that.

Very well said! She will value herself and perhaps she knows something others don't! Who is to say!

I guess you and smiling1 are right. I like getting advice from others and don't think I know it all, but I guess most people are too insecure to think that way.

I will keep my mouth shut and let people screw up unless they are about to do real damage to themselves. But I will write on a piece of paper the idea I had and the date. And after they screw up, will show them how I knew what was going to happen. And when they say why didn't you warn me, I will say "because the last time I tried, you got angry at me.." :p

Unless you pay the price to see her then who are you to say that she is too much? You assume that you think for all which is not true.
When she wants to ask for opinions then she will probably not come to you but to the chathost forum. Or she will live and learn without your advice.
Seems there is a motive on your part like maybe you want to see her but you don't want to pay the price. I suggest that you should move on and forget about it. You can't have what you can't afford!
Do you also go into the supermarket and ask them to reduce the price on things that you want? Especially when others buy them at the full price? I think not! If so tell me how that works out for you.

You are overreacting. I believe that I stated I see this situation a number of times. There isn't just one particular host. Nor are they always hosts that I would be interested in seeing. Sometimes they are hosts that I wouldn't really want to see at $1.00, let alone a high price.

The most recent occasion was with a $4.00 host that had pretty good pics, but probably wouldn't attract a lot of attention if I were to guess. I know some guys might have the money and not even think about price, and of course, a few rich regulars is all it takes to succeed, but something like $3.50 or $4.00 is so far out of the mainstream that usually that simply won't work for most hosts, and I just thought maybe it might help to let them know this. Apparently, however, there really is no tactful way to let them know so I guess I will just keep my opinion regarding a given host's price to myself. It's too bad though since some might have good careers at CC if they just understood the price trends better.

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"For the most part it appears that members that come here to complain constantly (unless it is a valid complaint of violation of rules) are the same ones that spend long periods of time sitting in free chat....just an observation"

You object to my making assumptions, and then leap to conclusions of your own. How do you know that guys that complain in the forums also are always sitting in text chat? What possible connecton is there between the two?

You say that you have made an "observation" so you obvously have specific information and are not just speculatng, correct? Or is it that you are doing exactly what you accused me of?

As for me, I do in fact base my statements on actual observation. I see hosts with high prices without any customers. I check just out of curiousity from time to time to see how things are working for people here. And sometimes hosts will ask me what other hosts are charging so they can decide what to charge. Is this a 100% perfect scientific study? Of course not, but empirical research is a valid basis to reach conclusions.

I also find it interesting that you attack me the way that you do. My motivations were purely noble. I just thought some hosts charge too much and are not going to have a lot of success here and maybe someone could tell them. I base this on being a member for something like 7 years and seeing how things work around here, and 95% of those 7 years was not spent in text chat. In fact, I don't like text chat other than to get the hi, hru stuff out of the way, see if a host strips when I am in the mood and to see if the host likes cam to cam. Other than that, I will occasionally say hello to a friend in text chat but not usually.

I accept the notion that I should mind my own business. That is why I posted.... namely, to see what people thought. But your jumping to conclusions that I am just some rude jerk sitting around text chat all day long are far from accurate.

Nice job in being fair and objective and not generalizing and leaping to conclusions.

I don't need to respond to your comments because your assumptions are just not accurate. It does appear that you have way too much time on your hands and are extremely bored if these things bother you so much. Just a suggestion but you could become a Studio Boss and manage the girls the way you think appropriate especially since you've done so much research already.

You seem to have plenty of time to read everything I say and post about it, lol. And excellent job in showing the world that you are above everyone else and won't even dignify my post with an answer.

It is amazing how if you let someone keep posting over and over again, sooner or later, they will just show their true colors. I told you at least two times, I believe, that I agreed with some things you said but still you needed to focus on the negative and keep attacking.

Congratulations, you win. I won't post again on this topic and will now give you the opportunity for the last word. Go for it!

as long as the host didn't ask your oppinion regarding her price, I don't think you should go in her room and advise to lower the price, she know better than everybody her value and will never care of what think the others, few days ago came in my room one member to ask me to lower my price from 1.80 to 0.50, telling me that many hosts stay with this price and I am too expensive, and of course I send him to go and visit that cheap hosts who have 0.50.The idea is never give advices if your advbise was not request.

My thoughts..... (1) you underestimate the intelligence of the hosts. They are not stupid. They know what they are doing.

(2) it's none of your business what they charge, whether you agree with the price or not. So butt out. let the host run her own business (or her boss do so)

(3) If they have a high price and it doesn't produce business, they will figure it out. Don't assume they are new from some other higher-priced site. The market will bear only what the market will bear. And if she doesn't like the results, she will either lower her price or say "to hell with this place."

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Who was Arguably the Top host who ever worked here? i know im new.... but thats seems to be settingtthe Bar really high.

AboveXBeyond. It doesn't mean she was the best in everyone's opinon, but she had an open price of $2,50 and a 121 price of $5,00 and consistently had members in her 121 for very long periods of time.

When I said "best", by the way, I meant most successful, not best looking or nicest person or most fun to chat with. I can think of some others that could also be considered the most successful, but without knowing all of the statistics such as money made per hour online and things like that, I could only say "arguably".

It would be an interesting topic to see who people thought was "the best" and how to define it. Most money? Most enjoyable time in video? Anyway, the point was that some new hosts' prices are higher than those of a host with a proven track record and that most hosts wouldn't succeed with such a high price and perhaps should lower it. I was just wondering if there was any tactful way to point this out to a new host, but apparently, there isn't, lol.

Thanks for that, i was curious it it was Tellmemore, she was before my time but still seems to have a lot of admirers, but as you said the best is a very subjective term & im keen to find who are considered the Must See or Wish list Hosts i should check out

And the ultimate irony is that she would be simultaneously broadcasting the expensive 121 session for free on another site.

Its just the double standard the hosts use here. Its ok for them, but not anyone else.

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The point was that when hosts like something, they feel that members should shut up, not complain, and not suggest to CC or to hosts how to improve things since everything of course is perfect on CC and this is the greatest site in the world. BUT when hosts don't like something, all of sudden things are not so perfect and CC does not know all and that it is okay to tell other people what to do such as what price to charge, set price minimums, et cetera.

Given that usually the same people post a lot, I was just pointing out that there is a very good chance that people are being hypocrities. My post had nothing to do with prices. It was just one example of hosts trying to tell other hosts what to do and thinking that is okay but not liking when their customers with the money, in other words, members, make suggestions here.

Either we all have the right to express ourselves or we don't. But some people here think only they have the right to express opinions and make suggestions about how to improve things.

Maybe immaturity would describe things better than hypocrisy in many ways.

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You are so wrong: I guess there are many criteria by which a host chooses her price, but is wrong to generalise that the price is low to match the "quality" of what is being offered. I've visited hundreds of hosts and the top 3 for English language skills are all 50 cents a minute.

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A very mature and educated response...what was you saying about bad attitudes!

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When do you stop?? You are so obsessed with your thoughts... Get a life and let CC be CC!!

I thought that this was CC being CC.

NO we do not think like YOU do!! YOU have no business trying to change what already works fine. Each host is in essence in her own business and she runs it like she see's fit. You can either work with the system or not but to start expecting others to think as you do....is a waste of time. Why don't you become a host and quit just snooping (in chathost forum)and complaining because no one see's your way. There are many other factors involved that you don't understand and it is not your business to know as a viewer!

I hope in the future all ignore you posts to TRY to force people to agree with you.

Well, CC lets you read my forum, so I think I should get to read yours, lol. And my other posts were about making suggestions, not telling other people what to do. I just found it interesting that while I was not deemed worthy of making suggestions that it was perfectly acceptable for hosts to make suggestons so I decided to post about it.

By the way, traffic still slow? I didn't check the forum today or ask one of my host friends to do it for me. Maybe the hosts having problems are in that situation because they take your attitude, namely, they think that members should just shut up, mind their own business, and give them all of their money. Sorry, but I don't feel that way, and will speak my mind whenever I deem it to be appropriate.

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Try and be more creative and quit repeating what you say over and over until you can get someone to agree with you :)
No one is saying that suggestions are wrong here but unless it benefits all why would it be a consideration. All spoke out and let you know what their thoughts were and it just enough for you. You continue to get more bitter because you aren't convincing anyone. Also you must have lied to get a host account to spy on what the hosts chat about in their forum. The viewers forum is open for view for hosts and all so that they can learn possibly from the viewers comments.
Sorry you are so angry and turning obnoxious because this site is very fun just the way it works. CC has figured it out to work well for most of the members and the hosts. The problem with you is you want hardcore activity guaranteed when you are in a softcore category that has clearly stated that most of the hosts have chosen to be in their category because they are SHY! With that said she might be shy for one member and not another so their are no guarantees unless she tells you so in chat or her profile. So what don't you understand about that??
Honestly why is so important for you to argue and complain about what the hosts are doing?? It is their business. If they are following the rules and guidelines that were established by CC (which knows this business very well and has developed it to be the best for most and be a profitable business) then why are you bashing hosts??

Just enjoy or don't.....it is that simple. You know what choices you have. You have chosen instead to just annoy the hosts.

I will focus on the substance of the debate

1. soft core means different things to different people. CC uses it to try to direct hosts that usually do more sexuall things to other categories besides soft core, but it doesn't mean a lack of nudity at all times or even most times. It is very often used in every day language to simply mean stripping without spreading, toys, et cetera.

2. For the 1000000000000000th time, I left a category where a host could do what she wanted, when she wanted and for whom she wanted. Why must we have TWO categories for this? Why are you so attached to the name little shy? Only one or two hosts addressed this issue, but they focused on things like the original intent of glamour, literal English translations, et cetera and ignored what actually occurs on CC.

3. Why must a change on CC benefit "all"? Why can't it benefit most people? And perhaps my ideas would benefit most people even if some don't like them.

This all comes down to some hosts not being told what to do and thinking that all is okay. But maybe my idea might actually benefit some of them as I stated elsewhere.

Very few actually address the substance of my ideas. They just react and say "Oh, another member telling everyone what to do" instead of really thinking them through. I can see a host that never strips liking to have two categories where she can two what she wants for marketing purposes, but that doesn't mean it benefits the majority.

A lot of other hosts and any member which likes nudity, which even on a site with a lot of chatting is still the majority of members, would benefit from my suggestions in my opinion. Unfortunately, people took an immature approach of "No no no... I want to do what I want when I want and like things how they are so just shut up mr. member" instead of really thinking things through and saying "Hmmmm, I understand where you're coming from but I don't like that but maybe mandatory topless in lil shy 121 would be okay instead of complete nudity and that might help me as a host since guys like this when they visit me so it would help me get video if they knew I would go topless in 121" but nobody was willing to really take that next step and think things through.

I only started this thread to point out the hypocrisy and immaturity of many hosts here. The first person to respond understood that. That doesn't mean he and I are in the majority or in the minority. We really don't know that. But what we definitely know is that almost no host wants to think through the substance of ideas here. They just like to say "shut up members and keep your opinions to yourselves." What they don't understand that shutting up also can mean taking our money elsewhere.

Enough....you don't comprehend what anyone is telling you. You just keep repeating the same thing which is just like another site. Go there if you like that. They do free video too.
Instead you come here and bitch and want to change it to that site. By the way the girls are not forced to be nude in shy there but only if they choose to be on free chat and the banner says that. I like two categories and just the way it currently is on CC. So simple if you can't be happy here with the huge selection in hardcore then why don't you go there? I doubt you will be missed. Perhaps because it is cheaper here....lol.
Wish you used your right screen name I would block you just because I find you really boring and obviously very narrow minded about something that obviously isn't a problem other than to you.

LMAO!!! You post as "Host" and attack me for not using my screen name. Thank you for proving my point!!! You are a complete hypocrit!

Step up to the plate and put your actions where your words are... Post your name!!! Show how tough you really are!!! Come on!!! Make it happen!! Otherwise you are exactly what I have said about other hosts posting here... immature and a hypocit. Prove me wrong! Post your name!!

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Be careful... Your tongue is so far in your cheek that you might put a hole in the side of your face, lol.

Doesn't somebody need to show everyone when the Emperor is really butt naked instead of having nice new clothes on? People sure do hate being told to go look in the mirror, don't they? :p

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Thanks for the compliment... Hope you meant it, lol.

I like CC better than any site. I like it even better than a site where I can see really hot hosts strip for free. I just thought that making things more clear and making a clear distinction between two categories, namely glamour and lil shy, would be better for everyone, hosts and members included for all the reasons I have already stated. But for some reason, maybe becaue people didn't read carefully since my post was pretty long. Or because English isn't their first language, they didn't seem to understand what I was saying. Or maybe they just didn't want to understand since they like things how they are and simply don't want changes even though some changes may make the site better for the majority.

Unfortunately, people just thought I was trying to tell everyone what to do. This was not my intention. I always left a category where hosts had 100% complete freedom. I just thought we didn't need two categories for this where one is enough. And I thought that for those hosts willing to strip but that truly like 121 for this, that a revised lil shy would give them a great opportunity to get more business since many members get frustrated and ignore soft core hosts since they never know what to expect. And the 5 min stuff was just about the fact that CC won't let a member stay too long if he wants a credit so I thought a show should start by that time.

You know the strange thing? I think some lil shy hosts would be better off in Glamour. First, they would be in the first adult category and appear at the top. And second, an unscientific analysis tells me that there are at least as many top hosts in lil shy as glamour, and maybe more, so they could avoid these lil shy top hosts. But I guess they like having two sessions online and my idea wouldn't let them do that unless they were willing to strip in lil shy 121 for anyone. It is a shame since I think that most hosts would be better off because most are willing to strip even if it is only in 121 and guys would be more likely to visit a host if he knew she stripped and that is what he was looking for.

No freedoms were lost. Nobody was being told what to do. Nobody was being disrespected. And I think many hosts and all members would be benefited. The only downside I can see is that some hosts might need to go from glamour to lil shy and couldn't have two sessions unless they were willing to strip in lil shy 121. In most cases, I doubt that would be much of a big issue given that most hosts are willing to strip... They just want more money and want it to be in 121 which is exactly what would happen under my suggestions.

Its a waste of time to suggest new things on this site or any other site. I go to 6 sites. All have good points and bad points. So it really depends on my mood. For me CC has the most intimate and private rooms and is by far the best chat site.

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Yes and that is what each unique and desirable. Why should all be a clone of the other? There are reasons that host and members come here and that makes it successful in it own unique way! It takes some longer than others to figure that out. Like your post!!

What upsets people is that, although you admit that any analysis you have done is unscientific, you continually say how your proposals will benefit many/most members and hosts. This is just your opinion. I do not have a problem with there being two sofcore categories. I think the description "softcore" is appropriate. The term "softcore" is descriptive not proscriptive and covers a range of erotic/sexual actions.

I think the option to have more than one session open at a time is more important to some hosts than you realise. This is surely one reason why when CC recently did some rationalisation of the categories they kept two softcore categories and two non-adult categories.

Glad you spoke up and offered your rational thoughts with consideration for ALL!!

Ah, spoken like a true non nude host

another year older , not a good thing when your a older host like her .

oh stop it. Raluca is an absolutely incredible host. Your comment was rude and uncalled for. Maybe you were just trying to be funny, but fact is, it was just plain rude

Whos Raluca??????????

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Go for it. You only have one life. You'd better make the best of it. "Better to have loved and lost than not to have loved at all". I'm in the same situation. Hanging in limbo right now....

I agree, it rarely works out the way we want it to, but in the end , no matter what happened in between. The time you spent with a person you love, and the memories you keep of them . I think that makes it worthwhile every time. Best of luck to you both.

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if he have gf and want to meet you, the man want only sex with you, is very clear, if he will secide to leave his gf for you maybe one day will make the same with you for other woman, if you want only a sexual new experience go on, if not think twice

I don't know about that. I think if there is love nothing else matters. Everything isn't always about sex with men.

He apparently thought or thinks he is also in love with his gf so how many can a guy love at one time. If you are at a distance then she has the first advantage. This is a fantasy site so of course guys will be attracted to girls here especially with minimal clothes on looking their best. If you want to be hurt go for it!! Think you are his fantasy!

it isn't always about sex with men? What planet r u on?

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The planet where I am a man.

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He just wants a threesome. Hey its the 21st Century. Try it, you'll like it. Don't be a prude your whole life.

sorry to tell you but she leave CC and will not come back

That's fine by me, but on a site that does that right now, the times I've gone there, I am a lot more reluctant to pay for video.

In fairness, part of the reason is that hosts there do a lot in free chat and private costs a lot more, but even with the equivalent of what CC calls "open" session that is very, very cheap, I've entered a video and the host wasn't even on cam. In other words, hosts are much more likely to play games with members and it will all be a "he said she said" type of thing with what, if anything, was promised since they become so used to doing what they want.

Plus stalling would be a much bigger concern of mine. And another problem is that it would be much more difficult for a member to determine which host he wants to visit. It would take a lot more time and effort in my opinion.

The reason I am okay with it though is simple: I would spent a lot less since I would need to take a lot more time to make sure I found a host that I liked and that I trusted. I would save money and the hosts would make less money. But bring it on, lol. But then none of us would have anything to post about except hair armpits, the types of bones we have, and guys using dildos in their ass. You might as well get rid of the forums too.

ok point taken. Though getting rid of the forums is a bad idea...

"Though getting rid of the forums is a bad idea.."

I agree. The forums here are quite unique and free. I also go to the site with the red backround and it is highly regulated and NOT free to post. About 80% of my posts get deleted compared with only about 20% here. And the original site's forums are very lightly used. I like these forums just the way they are now.

I have some disagreement with member ( categories) but he does present many facts and seems to be reasonable and not given to some of the bizarre posts you see in these forums.

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Actually that is not the case. I'm a member there as well. They have 2 "lounges" where members can chat in real time. Also the girls have a heading stating what is offered and how much the tip needs to be and if they do groups or just pvts etc. It very fast paced and not at all intimate like we are all used to at our beloved Camcontacts.

Hosts pick the category that best represents what they will do in general. I think it is important to keep them to use that as a guideline in addition to her profile. It would be a mess for hosts and members to remove the categories. Regardless if you use the categories they are intended to let members choose based on what activity they are here for. There is a big difference between hardcore and softcore and then the sub-categories as well. Some of the hosts don't acknowledge it and then it gets confusing for members so if anything I think they should be monitored better....

Ignore that, lol. It means NOTHING in the real CC world. That is why I wanted a distinction between Glamour and Little Shy to be made where a truly shy host could say she would strip but only 121 and let Glamour be the category where she could strip when she wanted and ONLY IF she wanted, be it open OR 121. But let's not go down that road again, lol. Apparently, some host actually think it is still around 2005 or whenever glamour was introduced and it has something to do with being glamouress, lol.

Also be aware that when the host picks her category, VERY OBVIOUS warnings pop up that say something like, "By choosing this category the chathost agrees to..." This is where it is 100% clear that not so shy and instant action hosts, must strip, for example, and there is no limitation about open versus 121. In fact, CC has a policy against asking members to go to 121 for "a show", and "a show" in not so shy and instant action" MUST include nudity if the member wants it, including in open session.

I forget what it says when the host picks glamour or little shy, but I am 100% certain that she does not agree to get naked at any time other than when she wants to. There really is no distinction between the two categories in reality. You suggested what I suggested here before a number of months ago, namely that since a chathost cannot tell a viewer to go 121 for "a show", a little shy host could do "a show" in open such as dancing and then offer a different type of "show" in 121 such as nudity. That would allow her to say go 121 for nudity since she is still giving you "a show" in open with her dancing and not making you go 121 for "a show".

But in practical effect, glamour and little shy hosts just chat very often in open and don't give any type of a "show". And I've never said to CC, "Dear CC: chathost xyz just chatted in little shy open and didn't do a show", nor would I expect most viewers to do such a thing. We all just accept that most glamour and many little shy hosts will say go 121 for "a show". Anyway, I am sure most little shy hosts would at least model their clothes in open so that would meet the technical requirements of giving "a show" in open.

Also be aware that there are restricted sessions where a host, such as a glamour or little shy host, is no longer allowed to get naked or at most can get topless, for example. In these situations, the categories do in fact matter, but this is only around 10% of the time, and I doubt any host pics glamour over little shy based on what they are allowed to do in a restricted session.

Yeah thanks for the input, but I was really hoping to get some replies from softcore hosts.

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You watch porno movies together? Very funny LMAO

yes, i wach with one of my regulars, this excite him a lot, to know that we wach together and imagine that we are together waching and having sex

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Worked alright for Julia Roberts....less so for Patti Smith!!

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check out palopalo

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i wasn't aware that the brain was a bone.
Most women only have 1 vagina and there is always someone trying the screw that too!
2 breasts though, thats always nice

I work with people that have no brain.

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The following is only one of many ads copied and pasted from profiles from hosts other than Dungeon or Fetish.

" SPH, CBT, sissies, slaves ass fuck, foot fetish, long hair fetish, have ballons, money slavery and so on"

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OH what a double standard. Hosts in non adult and softcore are always complaining about members coming to them looking for a hardcore show. But its ok for Dominas to be omnipresent.

The guide for Glamour Girls

Looking for a gorgeous supermodel? A sexy chat with a beautiful and exotic woman? A playful dance, perhaps? Then this is the place for you! Just keep in mind that this category only removes the boundaries - adult behavior and nudity are allowed, but NOT required. So please be respectful of the Chathost's preferences and double check her profile prior to entering video chat.

The guide for Dungeon

So you've been bad... very bad! We can fix that! Enter the world of BDSM, where just about anything goes. Here's just a sample of what you can expect:
Domination & Submission
Bondage
Humiliation
Face sitting
S&M

Now after reading those, what genius would look for a Domina in Glamour???????

Presumably the same sort of "genius" that goes to Glamour and asks for an IA show. You are arguing against yourself!!

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Clearly I think he has been approached or read it in a profile or he wouldn't be posting here. I agree with him 100%.

I totally agree with you!! Tired of having men come in to Glamour and want me to treat them like a slave!! It grosses me out and I can't even imagine what he says other mistresses do in Glamour. Ask him to strip and scrub his bathroom floor or tye up his balls tight....girls stay with the category guidelines for the good of all!!

That would piss me off. I hate when I have to wait even 10 minutes to get my hair colored. Why can't hair stylists make their schedules run smoother? They think their doctors?

OMG!!! I am well on my way to buying used dildos and shoving them up my ass. :(

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But why would he pay in advance and then wait? Makes no sense!

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you are right... and it was a theoretical question... and for those who dont understand why and how anybody would pay in advance, you just dont know everything ;-)

Why in the world would you pay for something in advance? Especially having salon services? I've never heard of such a thing and would assume that the owner is number one on drugs or they are going out of business.
Surprised you couldn't figure that one out!

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I wouldn't know if anal sex causes hemorrhoids, lol. I have heard pregnancy does, and I know sitting on my ass reading about anal sex does, lol.

Well, if all is okay, it is time for a host to send a present to a member for a change.... Maybe some host can buy her favorite member a used dildo this coming xmas, and she will get her money back when he visits her and she instructs him to shove it in his ass. Look at it as a marketing opportunity, lol.

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"The 2nd guy is not a gay,he said he had tried it with hes gf and it was fun"

Not true according to the New England Journal of Medicine. Many gay men are married,have kids, have g/f on the side. Even in the 21st Century is a need to keep up appearances.

Any man of any age that likes a dildo (new or used) up his ass is gay!

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You are wrong. He is GAY!

what does that make a woman if she likes it in the ass?

"what does that make a woman if she likes it in the ass?"

A good woman!

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Not me saying it, its the New England Journal of Medicine saying it. You should read more.

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Your statement claimed I said things that I did not say. My source reference was the New England Journal of Medicine. I subscribe to it yearly. So I would suggest you also subscribe and keep up to date on all kinds of medical information. I was only reacting to the bozos posting misinformation in this forum.

Subscribing and reading is not the same as understanding. You are making illogical extrapolations of your own, which the article (no doubt correct in itself) does not support or infer.

On the Sex Channel, there is a woman
who teaches couples how do do anal sex
in a safe and right way.
The women then use strap ons or dildo's
to give anal sex to their male partners.
There is a growing interest, for women wanting
to give anal sex to their male partners.
Also if a man has sex with a woman he is not gay
but bisexual, if he has sexual attraction to men too.

There are tons of cases of gay men marrying and having children. And even if you call the Sex Channel course for bisexuals, the men involved are NOT straight. I don't know if there is a Sex Channel in the US. And I believe there are men and women as you describe and what consenting adults do is up to them. But according to the New England Journal of Medicine's guidelines, the men involved are gay.

We can throw terms around all day. For example this new term "metrosexual" which seems to be all the rage, is just a new term for gay men. And hey that's fine, like the saying "Its ok to be gay" And I am not a homophobe. I'm a live and let live type of guy. But let's just call a spade a spade, that's all.

Since the New England Journal of Medicine first came out, imagine how much has changed and will change in the future! There are many idea's and opinions.
You need to think more.

yes, I can confirm that are many guys who love to be f***** in their ass, is one of the most common fantasy for many man, and they don 't want a man for this, they want to be penetrated by women, me perfonally I never had in my real life a man who asked me this, but online I have so many

I will tell you what, after too much dildo ass play you'll have skidmarks in your skivvies for the rest of your life. Trust me, I know

sniff, sniff.... and i never got to see her pink... :(((

I did ;)

me too :)))

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another Tver girl leaves? woooooooooohooooooooooooo!!! lol

Actually, I feel bad for 3 certain hosts from Tver.... They all say go 121, although at a high price, but they all will strip too. It isn't fair to lump them in with the rest. All 3 of them can move in with me anytime they need a change of location. :-)

Why she leaving? She gonna married or found a real job in life? :)

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I think you might mean elder sister, not daughter.

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...what kind of dream is that??

I might not mind living with "a broad", lol.

i think i know of the three. Y, O, and J.

Yes... and any discussion of "Tver girls" should leave them out of the discussion, IMHO. All three are lovely & sexy & smart &.... well I have my favorite among them but I do like all three ladies very much.

BTW, I bring this up because I think I was the one who first talked about the infamous "White Sofa of Tver." For the record, I NEVER saw any of those three on the white sofa lol.

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we only see the last day they logged in, like 20 June 2011 for example. It is not like another place that says 24 hours ago, within past week, or over 1 week. And we have no ideea how long you've been online unless we are stalking you for some reason, lol.

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google: performer notification

set an email alert and see what time u get the email

".............or been online for hours?thx"
the tool shows all activity while host is on, her logins and logoffs while she is at work, also the activity of the last 2 weeks.

Great... tell all the members how to spy on hosts. I can see it now.

"Baby... Why you been ignoring me?"

"I haven't worked for a few days. Today is my first day back."

"Don't lie to me baby. I might be a perv, but I am good at stalking you. You worked Monday, Tuesday and Thursday last week, and this past Sunday and Monday too."

"What you mean? How you know?"

"I know baby. And I spied you on yahoo too, and you were giving your cam on yahoo as well. I just was waiting to see if you would email me like you promised, but you never did."

"Oh I'm so sorry Baby. I logged in just to check my email and logged out those days. And I forgot to email you. And it was my sister that I was giving cam to."

"Don't lie Baby. I know exactly what days and hours you worked."

Message appears: you can no longer type messages in this room.

Message appears: for reasons of privacy, the chathost has deneid access to your location.

And it's off to the next host....

(NO.... I don't do this, lol. I've had some bad experiences where I felt a host wasn't honest with me, but I don't stalk. But I know from friends that guys do it all the time.)

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host friends, and anyway, it's not hard to figure out what happens.

I've seen the ignore thing because I might have asked if a host stripped and she didn't like the question, for example, and either becaue of my location or an argument with a host, couldn't visit any more.

and by the way, i've had hosts ask me to use spy programs to see if guys are on yahoo when they don't visit them so hosts do the same type of thing

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i don't know, but a host friend always is telling me guys are spying her and know when she gives her cam. You can probably google and find a program.

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one question... which is worst, person who lie to gain some money, or person who use some trick to find about this lie to avoid loosing his money?

fix or repair daily - ford

bust out another thousand..... boat

I'd rather push a Chevy than drive a Ford. Found On Road Dead!

FORD - First on Race Day. You all are such pessimists! LOL

Fuckin' old recycled Dodge.

FIAT
Foi Inganhado Agora Tarde
translation.... I was decieved now its too late :P

The portuguese word for decieved is "enganado" and not "inganhado", which ruins the joke. But nice try anyway :P

Could use iludido instead and make the joke work again?

Yeah, "Fui Iludido, Agora é Tarde" could do the trick. Funny :)

Maybe if guys stopped playing with them like they weren't actually attached!! they might last longer :p
Muahhhhhh

LOL

Biting is the big problem.....

i still think that instead of silicone, they should be filled with air. Helium would be nice, that way when you suck on them, you can say, "Oh Baby, I love you" in a high squeaky voice. Or perhaps hydrogen, Get it hot and you can end up being blasted to kingdom come. Or even just play oxygen, that way if they spring a leak you can watch your girl, fly about the room making a pbpbpbpbpbpbpbpb

Hardly seems worth replying as she's not been on line since 2003!!!!!!!

After 8 years I think they may have headed south a bit....

0badangel has the best breasts on here ;)

her breasts might be nice but i wouldn't recommend visting her unless u like a host that is on multiple sites and ignores u after she asks that you go 121 to see them

i had no problems when i saw her (in open)

what other rooms is she in - I would be glad if you could let me know

You think girls here have self respect when they do all what men say them? Sometimes it just takes a lot of time and money to push them to do the adult.
So then I agree: When you act like a ***** then you are a ...
Sonner or later they do more and more to keep the loyal customers - every hostess! From dancing to showing underwear to show everything!

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I guess he is somewhat right, since you are switching your profile back and forth from NA to Glamour and obviously trying to get a lot of attention with all your excessive forum spamming. So what you are willing to do must be dependent on the money...

Her posts are most consistent, meaningfull and good I have read in a long time here... If you call proofing that she is smart and a good talking partner as spamming, it is your problem.
And encouraging guys to jerk-off is exhausting and even she can't do it around the clock, no matter the money you throw at her for your single kick - try chatting sometimes!

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Sorry, this is my last post now, even if I am starting to enjoy this discussion.
But I have to make one point straight for everyone here to feel better: I am sorry, don't get me wrong, my last post was not meant as an attack on you or others at all...

It is just verrifying and nice to see that you also just have your price and sooner or later, after a lot of time, trust, comfort and mostly cash you are dominated, give in and go along with explicit stuff to go for the money - but don't worry, that's normal here, this is not the place for moral and self-respect. And relax, it is also good, everyone gets what he wants and is pleased at the end of the day.

I want no argument, just throwing in my thoughts and my john's opinion.

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lol To show off the naked body doesnt mean to be a whore. Many famous actresses show their naked bodies, somehow is doesnt make them whores, You are very narrow-minded person.

happy birthday! have a great day and a wild, wild party :p

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I just had the same experience. I emailed CC about it and gave the host's name. Also, rated her 1. Her behavior overrides her beauty when it comes to a rating.

Can't understand why you should be having this problem.

stud muffin,
You're Fired!

Most hosts in all adult categories insist on 121 before they do a nude show. I would say more than half do easily. A few can be persuaded to strip in open video and a few do it in open video all the time but I have found they are the exception. Just the way it is. So the girls who do it in open get my business...simple.

It's a shame hosts don't understand your frustrations and those of other members. And then, you know what they do? They post in the host forum and complain about their traffic. LMFAO!!!

I haven't had the problems you have or the original poster have stated too often with not so shy and instant action hosts, but it does happen from time to time. Also, personally, I go by price, not open versus 121. In other words, taking what you said, you would prefer to see a host that strips in open for $2,00 over a host that strips in 121 for $1,50. I am assuming you don't really mean this, but maybe you do.

If there was a category that allowed hosts to do what they want in open but required nudity in 121, it would help you, me and other members a great deal. You would then be able to go to this category (what I call, little shy, in my posts below) and see the 121 price where you get nudity and compare it to the open prices in not so shy and instant action where hosts are required to strip in open. Then, you could make your choice based on price and other factors, knowing either the host would strip or you could complain to CC.

But apparently hosts don't get this. They are attached to stupid things like names such as "little shy" and want two categories where they can do what they want in both open and 121 where only one category is necessary for this. They don't understand that members such as you might not even want to be bothered on some days asking the little shy host if she strips and instead focus on not so shy and thereby cost a little shy host that will strip in 121, and maybe open too, money.

If things were done my way, many hosts that are willing to strip in 121 would get a lot more business. Under the current system, members' frustration often makes them forget about all the glamour and little shy hosts that are willing to strip in 121 at a price that might even be better than not so shy open. Instead, hosts focus on a stupid title such as "little shy" and archaic things such as the original intent of glamour.

It is aboslutely ridiculous! My way would give a category for hosts that want to do what they want, when they want in both open and 121. My way would give a category for those hosts that are willing to strip but truly are too shy to do it in front of more than 1 guy and just want a little extra in 121. My way would give a category for hosts that don't care about stripping in front of multiple guys but like to chat a few minutes first. And my way would give a category for hosts that don't care about chatting and are willing to perform right away.

My way gives someting for everyone. and would keep a member such as yourself from ignoring some really good little shy hosts, for example, that strip in 121. You would know 100% that they would strip, and even if it is "121", you could just compare the price to others that strip in open and make a decison. Instead, however, hosts rather risk being ignored by you because of all the frustration you've gone through by needing to ask (1) if they strip and (2) if it is open or 121.

And as for the original poster, every time that happens, just email CC. They will credit your account.

And as for hosts, I just spent $150 on another site in one day and zero on CC. How's traffic? lol.

"And as for the original poster, every time that happens, just email CC. They will credit your account. "

That only works if you quit the video with in the first few minutes.

If the host refuses to do any show in open and/or brings up the 121 condition then I immediately leave and look for another host. It only takes 2 mins in vid to find out. There are many hosts here and it doesn't matter if the host thinks she's the best or if her money slaves put her head in the clouds. There are many others waiting for my hard earned pennies, some might even be younger and more beautiful. We are all dumb wallets to them, they are all sweet pussies for me :-))