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To the beautiful female hosts on CC...
Lou Reed: "Women"
I love women, I think they're great
they're a solace to the world in a terrible state
They're a blessing to the eyes, a balm to soul
what a nightmare to have no women in the world
I love women
I love women
I love women
we all love women
I used to look at women in the magazines
I know that it was sexist, but I was in my teens
I was very bitter, all my sex was on the sly
I couldn't keep my hands off women, and I won't till I die
I love women
ah, I love women
we love women
we all love women
A woman's love can lift you up, and women can inspire
I feel like buying flowers and hiring a celestial choir
A choir of castratis to serenade my love
they'd sing a little Bach for us and then we'd make love
I love women
I love women
We all love women
we love women
Happy (early) Valentine's Day!!!! (I didn't feel like waiting.)
I love women, I think they're great
they're a solace to the world in a terrible state
They're a blessing to the eyes, a balm to soul
what a nightmare to have no women in the world
I love women
I love women
I love women
we all love women
I used to look at women in the magazines
I know that it was sexist, but I was in my teens
I was very bitter, all my sex was on the sly
I couldn't keep my hands off women, and I won't till I die
I love women
ah, I love women
we love women
we all love women
A woman's love can lift you up, and women can inspire
I feel like buying flowers and hiring a celestial choir
A choir of castratis to serenade my love
they'd sing a little Bach for us and then we'd make love
I love women
I love women
We all love women
we love women
Happy (early) Valentine's Day!!!! (I didn't feel like waiting.)
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
Same as ever.... No difference (if in a nonrestricted session). You were always allowed to strip 100% at your option if the session was nonrestricted, both in open and 121. They are just trying to let everyone know nudity is allowed.
Given how they wrote the descriptions, I think the idea is that if a host is more willing to strip but is a bit shy in some way, then to pick little shy. If she is going to strip just every now and then, to pick Glamour. But the rules during a nonrestricted session are identical for Glamour and Little Shy. In fact, they are identical for every category except nonadult in terms of stripping being allowed. The only difference is when a host has the option and when she does not across the categories, but with little shy and glamour, the rules are not different... it is always the host's choice.
There may be a difference about when you can strip if the session is restricted, but a big warning will appear on your monitor so don't worry about it.
The bottom line is that Glamour works for CC so they decided to keep it. But in terms of your question, nothing has changed at all, at least for nonrestricted sessions. If you are popular, stick with one account.... If not as popular, maybe add a little shy session too although you will get more pressure to strip from members in little shy even though you don't have to. Members do seem to expect a bit more from little shy hosts even though the host has the option with both glamour and little shy.
(I should add that I haven't checked the rules yet and only category descriptions, but it would seem that the rules have not changed at all given how CC described the categories for all to see.)
Given how they wrote the descriptions, I think the idea is that if a host is more willing to strip but is a bit shy in some way, then to pick little shy. If she is going to strip just every now and then, to pick Glamour. But the rules during a nonrestricted session are identical for Glamour and Little Shy. In fact, they are identical for every category except nonadult in terms of stripping being allowed. The only difference is when a host has the option and when she does not across the categories, but with little shy and glamour, the rules are not different... it is always the host's choice.
There may be a difference about when you can strip if the session is restricted, but a big warning will appear on your monitor so don't worry about it.
The bottom line is that Glamour works for CC so they decided to keep it. But in terms of your question, nothing has changed at all, at least for nonrestricted sessions. If you are popular, stick with one account.... If not as popular, maybe add a little shy session too although you will get more pressure to strip from members in little shy even though you don't have to. Members do seem to expect a bit more from little shy hosts even though the host has the option with both glamour and little shy.
(I should add that I haven't checked the rules yet and only category descriptions, but it would seem that the rules have not changed at all given how CC described the categories for all to see.)
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
When CC added 121, they told hosts as follows. I am not sure if it still appears anywhere, but I can tell you it was there until recently according to my host friends:
The most important changes are:
1) NO MORE ADULT activity in non-adult categories – including private One2One sessions !
2) New Category "Glamour Girls". Although still non-adult it does enable you to expose some of the glamour side of you without having to go to an adult category ;-)
Glamour, therefore, was NOT considered adult at first. In fact, the above clearly states it was considered NON-adult, as you can see.
The problem is the hosts were then told to look to the adult ratings for what is allowed, and Glamour was described as NOT being nonadult so it was confusing. I believe that they have corrected this in the category ratings page, but I haven't asked my host friends if the first part, where Glamour is said to be nonadult, still appears anywhere.
Anyway, it doesn't matter. As you said, if nonrestricted, hosts can strip 100%, and that includes Glamour. (Non-adult sessions are always restricted so this rule wouldn't apply to non-adult). The only issue is whether or not the host has an option to strip and that depends on the category.
The most important changes are:
1) NO MORE ADULT activity in non-adult categories – including private One2One sessions !
2) New Category "Glamour Girls". Although still non-adult it does enable you to expose some of the glamour side of you without having to go to an adult category ;-)
Glamour, therefore, was NOT considered adult at first. In fact, the above clearly states it was considered NON-adult, as you can see.
The problem is the hosts were then told to look to the adult ratings for what is allowed, and Glamour was described as NOT being nonadult so it was confusing. I believe that they have corrected this in the category ratings page, but I haven't asked my host friends if the first part, where Glamour is said to be nonadult, still appears anywhere.
Anyway, it doesn't matter. As you said, if nonrestricted, hosts can strip 100%, and that includes Glamour. (Non-adult sessions are always restricted so this rule wouldn't apply to non-adult). The only issue is whether or not the host has an option to strip and that depends on the category.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
Glamour was never considered non-adult by CC. When they started this category theysaid it was neither adult nor non-adult but was in between.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
With all due respect, I quoted CC so I don't know how you can possibly say Glamour was never considered "non-adult". But you are correct in terms of what their intent was.... a bridge between adult and nondult.
This is the whole problem (or was the whole problem) with Glamour.... Not even CC understood it, lol
This is the whole problem (or was the whole problem) with Glamour.... Not even CC understood it, lol
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
It is not correct to say "there never has been any restriction on what a Chat Host does in a video chat in any category, unless the session is restricted." The whole concept of restricted and non-restricted sessions was introduced about 3 years ago.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
I was not aware as to when the idea of restricted sessions came about. But like I said, whether you want to believe me or not, CC specifically stated in black and white that glamour was non-adult. I quoted them, lol. That's the end of the argument, and their comments were there very, very recently. I am not sure if they are still there.
But the intent clearly was it to be a hybrid between adult and non-adult and let nonadult type of hosts tease and stuff. I really don't remember when Glamour hosts first started getting naked or were even allowed to do so.
Anyway, for all practical purposes it is now official: Glamour and Little Shy are essentially the same with nudity, although not required, allowed in both (at least for restricted sessions). Well actually it was official before, but now it is easier to point to something for those hosts confused by when a session is restricted.
But the intent clearly was it to be a hybrid between adult and non-adult and let nonadult type of hosts tease and stuff. I really don't remember when Glamour hosts first started getting naked or were even allowed to do so.
Anyway, for all practical purposes it is now official: Glamour and Little Shy are essentially the same with nudity, although not required, allowed in both (at least for restricted sessions). Well actually it was official before, but now it is easier to point to something for those hosts confused by when a session is restricted.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
NON-restricted sessions nudity is allowed..... meant to say (NON-restricted....)
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I hate that nonrestricted versus restricted thing.....
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I hate that nonrestricted versus restricted thing.....
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
You have taken one statement and show it out of context.
CC also said that all non-adult category shows are restricted but that not all glamour shows were restricted and glamour allowed activity that is not permitted in the three (at that time) non-adult categories. There were further explanations that made it clear that Glamour was between the non-adult and adult categories.
CC also said that all non-adult category shows are restricted but that not all glamour shows were restricted and glamour allowed activity that is not permitted in the three (at that time) non-adult categories. There were further explanations that made it clear that Glamour was between the non-adult and adult categories.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
The context.....
(from the chathost resources page home page)
VERY IMPORTANT!!
Please be aware that it is no longer allowed to have adult related activity in non-adult One2One or private sessions. Read More...
(and when they clicked on the link, they would see....)
Important Message From CC
... what is it all about?
Dear Chathosts,
This is a VERY IMPORTANT message that you MUST read as it announces some big changes at CamContacts that affect YOU.
We have introduced "Adult Ratings" which replaces the previous "Adult Levels". It is a slightly new concept that enables us to provide RESTRICTED live video sessions to various Mobile phone operators and Hotels that meet their regulatory requirements and at the same time to restrict certain activity in some of the website Categories on CamContacts.
The most important changes are:
1) NO MORE ADULT activity in non-adult categories – including private One2One sessions !
2) New Category "Glamour Girls". Although still non-adult it does enable you to expose some of the glamour side of you without having to go to an adult category ;-)
3) RESTRICTED SESSIONS. Each time you receive a video session from a viewer from a RESTRICTED service you will be warned of what Adult Rating the video session is and what activity is not allowed.
4) You are only allowed to select certain site categories on CC (Make new friends, Little shy etc..) based on your Adult Rating that you choose.
5) The next time you start session you will be asked to select your Personal Adult Rating – so we know which Restricted Sessions we can send your way.
For full details of these changes please view the Chathost FAQs – Adult Rating Guidelines
We thank you for your patience and cooperation in working with us to make these new changes a success. It is really appreciated. We understand that it may take you a little while to get used to these changes and will therefore be tolerant over the forthcoming period for minor breaches. With these new changes we shall be launching new services over the next few months which will bring more customers to you. We will announce these new services once they start going live.
Again, many thanks for your support.
Love,
CamContacts team
XXX
(and all of that appeared until very recently.... I don't know if it is still there.... GLAMOUR WAS STATED BY CC TO BE NONADULT!!! Why are you resisting this? I didn't make this up!!! They might not have treated it like nonadult, but they said it was nonadult. Argue with them, not with me. But then on the restrictions page they said something like "for adult categories (and this includes Glamour)...". so they contradicted themselves. Now it is more clear since glamour is adult softcore.)
(from the chathost resources page home page)
VERY IMPORTANT!!
Please be aware that it is no longer allowed to have adult related activity in non-adult One2One or private sessions. Read More...
(and when they clicked on the link, they would see....)
Important Message From CC
... what is it all about?
Dear Chathosts,
This is a VERY IMPORTANT message that you MUST read as it announces some big changes at CamContacts that affect YOU.
We have introduced "Adult Ratings" which replaces the previous "Adult Levels". It is a slightly new concept that enables us to provide RESTRICTED live video sessions to various Mobile phone operators and Hotels that meet their regulatory requirements and at the same time to restrict certain activity in some of the website Categories on CamContacts.
The most important changes are:
1) NO MORE ADULT activity in non-adult categories – including private One2One sessions !
2) New Category "Glamour Girls". Although still non-adult it does enable you to expose some of the glamour side of you without having to go to an adult category ;-)
3) RESTRICTED SESSIONS. Each time you receive a video session from a viewer from a RESTRICTED service you will be warned of what Adult Rating the video session is and what activity is not allowed.
4) You are only allowed to select certain site categories on CC (Make new friends, Little shy etc..) based on your Adult Rating that you choose.
5) The next time you start session you will be asked to select your Personal Adult Rating – so we know which Restricted Sessions we can send your way.
For full details of these changes please view the Chathost FAQs – Adult Rating Guidelines
We thank you for your patience and cooperation in working with us to make these new changes a success. It is really appreciated. We understand that it may take you a little while to get used to these changes and will therefore be tolerant over the forthcoming period for minor breaches. With these new changes we shall be launching new services over the next few months which will bring more customers to you. We will announce these new services once they start going live.
Again, many thanks for your support.
Love,
CamContacts team
XXX
(and all of that appeared until very recently.... I don't know if it is still there.... GLAMOUR WAS STATED BY CC TO BE NONADULT!!! Why are you resisting this? I didn't make this up!!! They might not have treated it like nonadult, but they said it was nonadult. Argue with them, not with me. But then on the restrictions page they said something like "for adult categories (and this includes Glamour)...". so they contradicted themselves. Now it is more clear since glamour is adult softcore.)
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
I am not sure when that language appeared since it looks like they revised that page if memory serves me correctly. I think before it said something like Adult (which includes Glamour...), like I said before and didn't have that language. Either way, at best, in one place they called glamour nonadult and the other, they are calling it adult, and that was my main point.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
There were more than guidlines. There were rules and breaches of these earned a host penalty points.Hosts have never been allowed to strip in open video in the non-adult categories. There was agrey area regarding the extent to which sexy clothes and posing in open video was allowed. CC also said they would be "tolerant" about what host did in a private password session, and later in 121.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
Little shy now says:
"In this category. You can expect something more than just chatting - a strip show, some soft core action, or more depending on how shy the Chathost is feeling!
I have had little shy girls tell me they do nothing sexual..just chat. That seems to be against what CC is saying here. I wonder if they will refund our money if this happens?
"In this category. You can expect something more than just chatting - a strip show, some soft core action, or more depending on how shy the Chathost is feeling!
I have had little shy girls tell me they do nothing sexual..just chat. That seems to be against what CC is saying here. I wonder if they will refund our money if this happens?
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
I would doubt it. I didn't notice the word "expect" until you pointed it out, but all she has to is do one little sexy thing like move her hand on the side of her face in a sexy way for 2 seconds and she's given you a show. There is a difference between a bad host and a host breaking the rules, after all, so the best you could probably do is give a low star rating and warn the rest of us.
I wrote them several emails before all this in hopes that they would make the categories more clear and make open versus 121 clear. I said said no nudity would be allowed in open or 121 for nonadult of course. Then, I suggested glamour and little shy be merged and have no nudity allowed open and nudity allowed in 121 at the host's option. For not so shy, I suggested having no nudity allowed in open but nudity mandatory at the member's option in 121. And for instant action, I had nudity mandatory at the member's option in both open and 121. This covers all the possibilities and gives the categories a clear distinction. But like I said, CC likes Glamour so it isn't going anywhere.
I wrote them several emails before all this in hopes that they would make the categories more clear and make open versus 121 clear. I said said no nudity would be allowed in open or 121 for nonadult of course. Then, I suggested glamour and little shy be merged and have no nudity allowed open and nudity allowed in 121 at the host's option. For not so shy, I suggested having no nudity allowed in open but nudity mandatory at the member's option in 121. And for instant action, I had nudity mandatory at the member's option in both open and 121. This covers all the possibilities and gives the categories a clear distinction. But like I said, CC likes Glamour so it isn't going anywhere.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
I guess they could keep glamour and have no nudity in open or 121 but sexy shows with at least bra and panties are allowed and have little shy the way i said (no nudity in open but nudity allowed at the host's option in 121).
This was what glamour was originally intended to be as I showed above. It was supposed to allow for nonadult hosts to be a little sexy to keep nonadult strictly nonadult.
That would leave...
nonadult: no nudity or sexy show in open or 121
glamour: no nudity in open or 121 but sexy show allowed in both (at host's option)
little shy: no nudity open but nudity allowed in 121 (at host's option)
not so shy: no nudity open but nudity mandatory in 121 if member wants
instant action: nudity mandatory in open and 121 if member wants.
Seems to make sense to me. Deals with the open versus 121 issue. Deals with when a member has a right to expect a host to strip and when it is the host's option. Generally deals with the issue of stalling and false promises although no system can be perfect for that. And makes a clear distinction between each of the major categories.
I wouldn't get into what a member can expect beyond nudity and say a little shy host needs to at least dance in open, for example. That leaves too much interpretation about what a "show" is. And I think if she is making members happy, that's all that ultimately matters. For better or for worse, the real issue most of the time is when a member has the right to see a host naked and when she has the right to say no, and my categories make everything clear as far as I can tell.
This was what glamour was originally intended to be as I showed above. It was supposed to allow for nonadult hosts to be a little sexy to keep nonadult strictly nonadult.
That would leave...
nonadult: no nudity or sexy show in open or 121
glamour: no nudity in open or 121 but sexy show allowed in both (at host's option)
little shy: no nudity open but nudity allowed in 121 (at host's option)
not so shy: no nudity open but nudity mandatory in 121 if member wants
instant action: nudity mandatory in open and 121 if member wants.
Seems to make sense to me. Deals with the open versus 121 issue. Deals with when a member has a right to expect a host to strip and when it is the host's option. Generally deals with the issue of stalling and false promises although no system can be perfect for that. And makes a clear distinction between each of the major categories.
I wouldn't get into what a member can expect beyond nudity and say a little shy host needs to at least dance in open, for example. That leaves too much interpretation about what a "show" is. And I think if she is making members happy, that's all that ultimately matters. For better or for worse, the real issue most of the time is when a member has the right to see a host naked and when she has the right to say no, and my categories make everything clear as far as I can tell.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
hosts do different things for different members depending on how she feels about him. your system would force her to change categories for him which is a clear signal to everyone watching that she is doing special things for someone else and not him. she needs to be able to do what she wants and stay where she is.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
First, a host has no special right to stay in glamour and do what she wants. If the description and rules change, and these do not mesh with what she does, then she can switch categories. It is no different than when glamour was introduced and cc decided to make sure that there was no more adult behavior in nonadult. Things change and so must the hosts and the result was that hosts moved from nonadult to glamour in some cases.
Second, the host doing special things for some members could simply go to little shy on a permanent basis. She could then stay in one category where all those special things would be 121 and nobody else would know. I did agree with two other hosts that maybe glamour could be nudity in 121 at the hosts option but no playing and little shy could be nudity and playing in 121 at the hosts option, but even if a host played for certain members, she should could just stay in little shy on a permanent basis.
Thanks for the feedback. Even though I disagree, it is important to raise issues for CC to consider if they ever further redefine everything.
Second, the host doing special things for some members could simply go to little shy on a permanent basis. She could then stay in one category where all those special things would be 121 and nobody else would know. I did agree with two other hosts that maybe glamour could be nudity in 121 at the hosts option but no playing and little shy could be nudity and playing in 121 at the hosts option, but even if a host played for certain members, she should could just stay in little shy on a permanent basis.
Thanks for the feedback. Even though I disagree, it is important to raise issues for CC to consider if they ever further redefine everything.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
As you said, c.c. seems to like it the way it is, and so do I. You want everything to be so clear and eliminate the mystery of what a host will do for every member just based on where she is.
Just as you have so graciously offered to let hosts change where they go, you have the same option. At least one site lists explicitly what the host will do. Personally, I don't like that, so I stay at c.c.
Just as you have so graciously offered to let hosts change where they go, you have the same option. At least one site lists explicitly what the host will do. Personally, I don't like that, so I stay at c.c.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
Why the hell would you want to ban nudity in open.....if the hosts want to do it. Geesh....this is a sex site for crying out loud. Who might you offend?????
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
Not all hosts are happy for anyone to jump into their video and find them naked. Banning nudity in open video meets this requirement.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
This point comes up time and time again. CC may be primarily a sex site but it is not exclusively so.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
Full nudity in 121 for Glamour, full nudity in open for Lil-shy, using fingers and toys for Not so shy, what is the corner for Instant action? I think Glamour must be not allowed showing full nudity in 121 even.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
both of your ideas are fine..... glamour as nudity but no playing and little shy playing but at the host's option..... the key is to make a definite distinction between the categories and that is all i was trying to do.... And if you're truly little shy, you would only want to play to be naked for 1 guy and only when you want to (and obviously with glamour too since even more shy) so my categories make sense at that level too.
Right now, there really is no difference between the categories, and even with not so shy, a host could force a guy to 121 for a real show. At best, a guy could hope she would get naked but she could just lay there. And it says "nudity", not "full nudity", is expected so she could just be topless.. It is way too vague.
I base my need for better defined categories on my experience and the numerous emails I've written them about how hosts act. But CC does very well so I imagine they feel if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Right now, there really is no difference between the categories, and even with not so shy, a host could force a guy to 121 for a real show. At best, a guy could hope she would get naked but she could just lay there. And it says "nudity", not "full nudity", is expected so she could just be topless.. It is way too vague.
I base my need for better defined categories on my experience and the numerous emails I've written them about how hosts act. But CC does very well so I imagine they feel if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
not so shy says full and explicit nudity is expected so a host couldn't just be topless.... of course a woman can be naked and posed in a certain way that she is basically showing nothing, but at least they said full nudity and the star ratings and viewer forum would hopefully take care of the rest
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
It is a sex site in large part, and for not so shy 121 and instant action both open and 121 you get that guaranteed under my proposal. With little shy 121 you might get it, which is what happens now anyway, and with glamour, if they kept it my way, you could at least hope for a tease of some type. Plus a glamour host could go to little shy for a show if she wanted. (I would avoid the password issue as a way around everything since that undermines the intetgrity of the categories.)
The key goal of mine is to get everyone on the same page without any type of misunderstandings. And most of the little shy hosts would probably give you nudity in 121 if you asked since they know u would probably leave if they didn't strip. Very few hosts here can truly do well by just being interesting and fun to chat with and stripping rarely. I even have little shy hosts strip in open or 121 before I even ask since they are so used to it, lol. Don't worry.... You will get to see what you want, but my way you will not ever feel ripped off unless a little shy host lied about giving you a show if you went 121. Unfortunately, there is no way to prevent that other than enough guys complaining about her to CC or if CC happened to be monitoring her at that moment.
The key goal of mine is to get everyone on the same page without any type of misunderstandings. And most of the little shy hosts would probably give you nudity in 121 if you asked since they know u would probably leave if they didn't strip. Very few hosts here can truly do well by just being interesting and fun to chat with and stripping rarely. I even have little shy hosts strip in open or 121 before I even ask since they are so used to it, lol. Don't worry.... You will get to see what you want, but my way you will not ever feel ripped off unless a little shy host lied about giving you a show if you went 121. Unfortunately, there is no way to prevent that other than enough guys complaining about her to CC or if CC happened to be monitoring her at that moment.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
Yours is a nice theory, but it does not work in practice. Profiles are incomplete. And hosts in free chat are intentionally vague because they know a wrong answer will keep a member from entering video. Your idea does not work in practice.
My idea is no more or less complicated than the current rules and makes things very clear. And for the host that wants to only perform for certain members and not others, little shy would be the perfect category under my system. "Glamour" is but a name.
The key is so that members and hosts know exactly what is allowed and exactly what to expect, and that is what I have attempted to accomplish. The current system, even as amended, does not do that and does things like essentially keep Glamour and Little Shy the same.
My idea is no more or less complicated than the current rules and makes things very clear. And for the host that wants to only perform for certain members and not others, little shy would be the perfect category under my system. "Glamour" is but a name.
The key is so that members and hosts know exactly what is allowed and exactly what to expect, and that is what I have attempted to accomplish. The current system, even as amended, does not do that and does things like essentially keep Glamour and Little Shy the same.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
The problem with your ideas are the members. Whatever rules are set for each category some members will try to push hosts to break them and, sometimes, if the host refuses will rate her poorly. The other problem for CC in setting "maximum" limits for what is allowed in each category is how to enforce them. Few members would complain if a host goes beyond what is allowed in her category.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
BTW while CC are revising things I bellieve that video is no longer a direct point to point connection between member and host. If this is correct maybe CC should change the wording on the enter video screen.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
You miss the point. The categories are there for a reason. It is not about being a robot. First you read and understand the rules, then you pick a category, and then you comply with the rules there. That is exactly what you are supposed to do now. The problem is that the rules are not specific enough and lead to problems. Moreover, I challenge you to explain the difference between glamour and little shy.
If you want a site that lets the hosts do whatever they want in every category, that is fine with me. Just be prepared for a wave of members leaving. When someone is spending his money, he wants to know what he is getting, and that includes when he can expect nudity and whether it will be in open and 121.
Monique's idea does not work. It has been discussed in the forums before that hosts won't answer guy's questions about what type of show they give in free chat and most profiles are not very specific. I have tried her idea and so have others. The profiles never are specific enough and when you enter free chat to ask a host what she will do, she very often either gets offended or she will try not to answer and tell you she won't strip, for example, in the hope that the member will enter video anyway.
My idea eliminates much of the problems. It doesn't eliminate it for little shy, but in this category, the members willl all know that they are rolling the dice if they want nudity. In every other category, they know what to expect and when to expect it. It is perfectly clear.
There is still the issue of how long a host would have to strip when stripping is mandatory, so for not so shy 121 I would say within 5 minutes and instant action, I would simply say within the first 2 minutes or something like that. You need definite rules to avoid problems. There is also the issue of a little shy host or a not so shy host wanting multiple guys in her video where she was naked, but at that point, she isn't really shy at all and should really be in instant action. Most hosts prefer stripping for one guy, and if not, should be in instant action.
Also note one last think.... Most of the time, a host will only be stripping in 121 for more money. This is what hosts usually want!!! I am giving you what you want and eliminating much of the confusiion and game playing that goes on.
If you want a site that lets the hosts do whatever they want in every category, that is fine with me. Just be prepared for a wave of members leaving. When someone is spending his money, he wants to know what he is getting, and that includes when he can expect nudity and whether it will be in open and 121.
Monique's idea does not work. It has been discussed in the forums before that hosts won't answer guy's questions about what type of show they give in free chat and most profiles are not very specific. I have tried her idea and so have others. The profiles never are specific enough and when you enter free chat to ask a host what she will do, she very often either gets offended or she will try not to answer and tell you she won't strip, for example, in the hope that the member will enter video anyway.
My idea eliminates much of the problems. It doesn't eliminate it for little shy, but in this category, the members willl all know that they are rolling the dice if they want nudity. In every other category, they know what to expect and when to expect it. It is perfectly clear.
There is still the issue of how long a host would have to strip when stripping is mandatory, so for not so shy 121 I would say within 5 minutes and instant action, I would simply say within the first 2 minutes or something like that. You need definite rules to avoid problems. There is also the issue of a little shy host or a not so shy host wanting multiple guys in her video where she was naked, but at that point, she isn't really shy at all and should really be in instant action. Most hosts prefer stripping for one guy, and if not, should be in instant action.
Also note one last think.... Most of the time, a host will only be stripping in 121 for more money. This is what hosts usually want!!! I am giving you what you want and eliminating much of the confusiion and game playing that goes on.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
I am really getting fed up with the way you seem to think you know what all members want. I do not want a site where every category has rules that govern every detail. One of the reasons I have stayed with CC for a long time is it's relaxed and relatively free nature compared with other sites. I also believe that this flexibility is one reason why many hosts consider CC the best site even though they may also work on others at higher rates. There are many sites which operate in the way you propose. I suggest you stick to them.
RE: Glamour-Lil shy
I have read enough posts in the forums to see that the many agree with me in terms of the one issue I am focusing on .... nudity, It is primarily a sex site after all and guys want to know what they are paying for. They might not agree with my specific proposal but i guarantee they like knowing when a host will strip for them.
Perhaps u just like to chat and get the occasional show so u don't care about rules. But for those that like shows, they want to know when they have a right to expect one and get what they are paying for.
CC is great for both shows and chatting.... I am simply trying to accomodate both. The customer has the right to know what he is paying for. If u want to eliminate all categories and give hosts complete control to decide what they want to do, that is fine by mine. At least I will not have to worry hosts not understanding the rules since deception and manipulation will be allowed and I will have made a conscious decision to subject myself to it. Of course, many members would do just what you told me to do and leave.
CC agrees with my goals, NOT yours. That is why they have the categories and rules regarding nudity. I am just trying to make it work better. Profiles are not specific and hosts won't answer much of the time what to expect when you ask in free chat. And some use the flexibility that you love to manipulate members. Better defined categories help deal with this issue.
You basically like hosts being able to do what they want and give them the control. I give them that control too, but only in certain categories. If you want the site to be two categories, for example, such as Glamour (where hosts get to do what they want) and Instant Action (where members are in charge of what goes on), that's fine by me. Maybe we could agree on that.
Perhaps u just like to chat and get the occasional show so u don't care about rules. But for those that like shows, they want to know when they have a right to expect one and get what they are paying for.
CC is great for both shows and chatting.... I am simply trying to accomodate both. The customer has the right to know what he is paying for. If u want to eliminate all categories and give hosts complete control to decide what they want to do, that is fine by mine. At least I will not have to worry hosts not understanding the rules since deception and manipulation will be allowed and I will have made a conscious decision to subject myself to it. Of course, many members would do just what you told me to do and leave.
CC agrees with my goals, NOT yours. That is why they have the categories and rules regarding nudity. I am just trying to make it work better. Profiles are not specific and hosts won't answer much of the time what to expect when you ask in free chat. And some use the flexibility that you love to manipulate members. Better defined categories help deal with this issue.
You basically like hosts being able to do what they want and give them the control. I give them that control too, but only in certain categories. If you want the site to be two categories, for example, such as Glamour (where hosts get to do what they want) and Instant Action (where members are in charge of what goes on), that's fine by me. Maybe we could agree on that.
Did You Know This About Leather Dresses?
Do you know that when a woman wears a leather dress, a man's heart beats quicker, his throat gets dry, he gets weak in the knees, and he begins to
think irrationally?
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Rant of the Day: Tired of TV weather people
Does this happen where you live: It is winter. There is a chance of snow. And the people doing the weather during the news act like it is 21 December 2012.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! WTF? It is Winter and there might be snow. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unless you live in Hawaii, why is this such a big deal? It snows in Florida. It snows in Israel. Why is it such a big deal when it snows in a place that gets snow all the time even if there is a lot?
Damn it! The news where I live now starts with the weather forecast almost every night all year long! No no.... Forget wars or natural disasters..... It might snow a few inches/centimeters so we better talk about that.
Everybody run to the store and buy some milk, bread, and eggs since you might be stuck inside for a day or two. Let's show all the guys with the big trucks that put salt on the roads and clean them. No wonder the roads aren't ever cleaned properly.... They're too busy doing tv interviews!!!
THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END! IT MIGHT SNOW!!!!
These people really need to join CC so they would have something to do when it snows and they cannot go out! I don't even know why I watch the news any more..... If one takes away weather and sports reports, there isn't anything left!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!! WTF? It is Winter and there might be snow. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unless you live in Hawaii, why is this such a big deal? It snows in Florida. It snows in Israel. Why is it such a big deal when it snows in a place that gets snow all the time even if there is a lot?
Damn it! The news where I live now starts with the weather forecast almost every night all year long! No no.... Forget wars or natural disasters..... It might snow a few inches/centimeters so we better talk about that.
Everybody run to the store and buy some milk, bread, and eggs since you might be stuck inside for a day or two. Let's show all the guys with the big trucks that put salt on the roads and clean them. No wonder the roads aren't ever cleaned properly.... They're too busy doing tv interviews!!!
THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END! IT MIGHT SNOW!!!!
These people really need to join CC so they would have something to do when it snows and they cannot go out! I don't even know why I watch the news any more..... If one takes away weather and sports reports, there isn't anything left!
RE: Rant of the Day: Tired of TV weather people
21 December 2012. End of days man, end of days..
RE: Rant of the Day: Tired of TV weather people
HEYYYYYYYYYY! Only snows in florida about every 20 yrs and it is the end of the world when my orabge juice doubles in price......lol
RE: Rant of the Day: Tired of TV weather people
There was a partially successful campaign in UK to restrict weather forecasters predicting a fall of rain as though it were like some kind of disaster. "I'm really sorry but it looks as though it might rain today in the south east." So what? Without rain we die you idiot!
I can't imagine they do this in a country like Ethiopia where thousands of lives are at risk during severe droughts.
Unfortunately, TV weather forecasting in the UK is no longer scientific, just another part of show business.
I can't imagine they do this in a country like Ethiopia where thousands of lives are at risk during severe droughts.
Unfortunately, TV weather forecasting in the UK is no longer scientific, just another part of show business.
my dream woman...whats urs?
rich....beautiful...funny...nice....smart...sexy...voluptuous...honest....sincere...helpful...patient...kind....independent...and of course willing to feed me beer and sandwiches while im layin on the sofa watchin tv....cant b that hard to find her...can it???
RE: my dream woman...whats urs?
I will add that she needs to have a flat head so that I have a place to rest the beer that she has brought me as she is "servicing" me. :))))
RE: my dream woman...whats urs?
Nice list but you forgot one thing..... She must give me oral or she cannot be my dream woman, lol.
RE: my dream woman...whats urs?
That's fine. So long as you ladies understand that if you end up with me, it's MY money. After all, Porn Star, fair is fair...right? :)
RE: my dream woman...whats urs?
You missed the whole POINT that I was making. Real Porn Star was making fun of men who want to be with a rich woman, so the woman can take care of them. Porn Star then said that was fine, so long as a man understood the money belongs TO the woman.
My point was simple -- fair is fair. If a woman who happened to become successful and has money wants to turn to a man & lover and say "You can be with me, but just remember that the money is MINE and I control it. It's NOT yours"...then why shouldn't the opposite be true? Why shouldn't a man who is successful and who has money be able to turn to a woman and say the same thing? Why shouldn't he be able to say "We can be together, but just remember the money is MINE?"
I happen to have money. Plus I come from a successful family and I'm going to inherit even more down the road. Literally a million or two. I don't mind marrying a woman and taking care of her and sharing things. But what I hate is a double standard. I hate that women expect to marry a successful man and immediately get half of the money and half of the house and half of everything...and yet if a man marries a woman with money, the woman gets to keep it all to herself and doesn't have to share. Like I said, fair is fair -- If you want it to be one way for the man, it should be the same way for the woman too.
As for only dating men from Russia, that's your business. Though it seems a bit mean-spirited to say, as if there are no good men from any other countries in the world, which would be silly to say. After all, how would you like it if I said the one country I WON'T date a woman from is Russia because there are NO good women there? I bet you wouldn't like that either. And I bet you'd stop and realize it's not true and there are good people ALL over the world.
My point was simple -- fair is fair. If a woman who happened to become successful and has money wants to turn to a man & lover and say "You can be with me, but just remember that the money is MINE and I control it. It's NOT yours"...then why shouldn't the opposite be true? Why shouldn't a man who is successful and who has money be able to turn to a woman and say the same thing? Why shouldn't he be able to say "We can be together, but just remember the money is MINE?"
I happen to have money. Plus I come from a successful family and I'm going to inherit even more down the road. Literally a million or two. I don't mind marrying a woman and taking care of her and sharing things. But what I hate is a double standard. I hate that women expect to marry a successful man and immediately get half of the money and half of the house and half of everything...and yet if a man marries a woman with money, the woman gets to keep it all to herself and doesn't have to share. Like I said, fair is fair -- If you want it to be one way for the man, it should be the same way for the woman too.
As for only dating men from Russia, that's your business. Though it seems a bit mean-spirited to say, as if there are no good men from any other countries in the world, which would be silly to say. After all, how would you like it if I said the one country I WON'T date a woman from is Russia because there are NO good women there? I bet you wouldn't like that either. And I bet you'd stop and realize it's not true and there are good people ALL over the world.
RE: my dream woman...whats urs?
I had a gf like that once but she wanted sex all the time even during football on tv. She had to go.
RE: Striptease songs?
The official striptease anthem:
'You can leave your hat on' by Joe Cocker
'You can leave your hat on' by Joe Cocker
RE: Striptease songs?
There was a thread on this a while ago... I've always liked The Low Spark of HIgh Heeled Boys, by Traffic (Stevie Winwood as a young man).
THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW
Since there's at least one correspondent using the handle, I'm curious: how many of the chathosts here have ever been to see or even performed in ROCKY HORROR? I'm thinking primarily of the movie and the people in the theatre who act it out in front of the movie screen, though if you did a stage version that would be cool also. How old were you when you saw it? If you performed, what character did you play? If it was in a foreign country, how was it unique from, say, shows in English-speaking countries?
I'm working with the people who are doing the 35th Anniversary convention in L.A. this fall, and I'm interested in outside experiences with the whole phenomenon.
I'm working with the people who are doing the 35th Anniversary convention in L.A. this fall, and I'm interested in outside experiences with the whole phenomenon.
RE: THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW
I saw the Rocky Horror Show back when I was at uni. It as showing at a local theatre and I took along a Spanish friend of mine who had never even heard of it. I remember taking her to stand in the queue and watch as her eyes grew wider and wider as she saw men going past in leather Basques and women wearing very very short skits and wearing top hats, or dressed as chamber maids. I felt now was not the time to produce a set of latex gloves and an operating mask and gown covered in blood I happen to have with me ;)
That being said the atmosphere inside was awesome and absolutely every but everyone had a great time singing along dancing in the aisles and generally having a grand old knees up. After about 10 mins I soften my friend up enough to join in and she was quite quite wild.. taking her top off and running around in just her bra! Well everyone was doing it, male or female :P haha
It was quite a shock introduction to the whole Rocky Horror ethos but have to say even without knowing what she was getting herself into my friend went away a very happy young lady that night. I was pretty high myself too..
Ahhh good good memories.
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That being said the atmosphere inside was awesome and absolutely every but everyone had a great time singing along dancing in the aisles and generally having a grand old knees up. After about 10 mins I soften my friend up enough to join in and she was quite quite wild.. taking her top off and running around in just her bra! Well everyone was doing it, male or female :P haha
It was quite a shock introduction to the whole Rocky Horror ethos but have to say even without knowing what she was getting herself into my friend went away a very happy young lady that night. I was pretty high myself too..
Ahhh good good memories.
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RE: THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW
I'm just a sweet transvestite....from transexual transilvaniaaaaaaa.....yeah!!!
Well, I saw the Rocky Horror Picture Show on TV here in Germany for the very first time.
Actually, I did not plan to watch it. I stuck on the channel, when I was zapping. It
just had began and "Science Fiction Double Feature" was playing. Well, I loved it.
The songs, the characters....was really cool and funny. Here in Germany usually movies
are dubbed. But this movie not. Always when it comes on TV they show it with subtitles.
So this was my first RH-experience - btw. I was about 16 years old.
Some years later I saw a stage performance of a amateur theater group. They talked in
German and "sung" in English. Well, actually it was playback - but nice.
Again some years later I was about 19 and with my school class in Berlin. We watched
a professional stage performance. German speaking, English singing. The audience did
not act much.
And finally last year: I saw a professional stage performance in Munich. This one was really about
the RH cult. You could buy an equipment containing rice, a paper magazine, some toilette
paper, and so on. And there was an "HowTo" when to use each accessory. This performance was
completely in English and legen...wait for it....here it comes.....dery!!!! :-)
Well, I saw the Rocky Horror Picture Show on TV here in Germany for the very first time.
Actually, I did not plan to watch it. I stuck on the channel, when I was zapping. It
just had began and "Science Fiction Double Feature" was playing. Well, I loved it.
The songs, the characters....was really cool and funny. Here in Germany usually movies
are dubbed. But this movie not. Always when it comes on TV they show it with subtitles.
So this was my first RH-experience - btw. I was about 16 years old.
Some years later I saw a stage performance of a amateur theater group. They talked in
German and "sung" in English. Well, actually it was playback - but nice.
Again some years later I was about 19 and with my school class in Berlin. We watched
a professional stage performance. German speaking, English singing. The audience did
not act much.
And finally last year: I saw a professional stage performance in Munich. This one was really about
the RH cult. You could buy an equipment containing rice, a paper magazine, some toilette
paper, and so on. And there was an "HowTo" when to use each accessory. This performance was
completely in English and legen...wait for it....here it comes.....dery!!!! :-)
RE: THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW
i'm not a host, but since this is for hosts and viewers in here, i'll take liberty and answer anyway. TRHPS is awesome. I saw it 30+ years ago when it was first out. The audience participation was a blast, popcorn flying everywhere, and I can't remember what else we did.
RE: THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW
aficionados of the genre will note that it is THE ROCKY HORROR SHOW, when performed on stage and THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW, when it was made into a film.
RE: THE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW ~ RealPornStar
The film you can pick up pretty much anywhere but for the show Alas.. it seems it is only touring the UK atm :( I can only see UK Tour dates mentioned. Do a search for Rocky Horror Show Tour 2010 with localised settings for your country and see if you hit anything. Else it will mean coming to the UK. Sorry.
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RE: Any sportmen here?
hello dear... you might want to check out the book "New Rules of Lifting for Women" (if you google it you can find the website). I've been following the men's version of this for nearly a year now, and it's quite good. The men's program focuses on the most effective weight-lifting exercises in a routine that alternates between fewer reps, heavier weights, and more sets (for strength), and greater reps, less weights, and fewer sets (for muscle tone). You also get very good advice on nutrition.
I would say the nutrition advice is equally important, because your body will demand more protein and more fuel. Your body works hardest after you work out, to build muscle you've just broken down by lifting, and so you have to give it fuel. I usually have a whey protein shake (blended with frozen fruit) soon after working out. I haven't lost any weight since I've started (which I think i would like to do), but I haven't gained any either, which can easily happen I think.
I know how athletic you are :P You'll do great.
I would say the nutrition advice is equally important, because your body will demand more protein and more fuel. Your body works hardest after you work out, to build muscle you've just broken down by lifting, and so you have to give it fuel. I usually have a whey protein shake (blended with frozen fruit) soon after working out. I haven't lost any weight since I've started (which I think i would like to do), but I haven't gained any either, which can easily happen I think.
I know how athletic you are :P You'll do great.
RE: Any sportmen here?
ohh hoodoo dear u r so nice:) always give so kind good posts. u r kind to everybody.such a sweetheart:)somtimes i think that u love even ur enemys:P
RE: Any sportmen here?
Hum...I don' think that in CC is anyone to be someone's else enemy . ;) Enemy is a big compliment for someone ( must be a person that is intelligent ,a redoubtable rival...) I don't offer this ''honor title'' to anyone ;))
Everyone use here anonymous ( or fake -why not ?) identities each time they can ,to attack each other or to be rude .
I personally don't mind that are here a few people that help ( even with a small advice ) every time they are able to. ....Do you?
Everyone use here anonymous ( or fake -why not ?) identities each time they can ,to attack each other or to be rude .
I personally don't mind that are here a few people that help ( even with a small advice ) every time they are able to. ....Do you?
RE: Any sportmen here?
Yea, but HooDooBoy is so cool and always good man. he help with everything i need. he is my hero and he is so cute and always charming. i like him more than anybody here. he always so smart and sweet. i always jump of happiness when i see him in my chat. kisses and love to you my HooDooBoy
RE: Any sportmen here?
If you love everybody, then the reality is that you love nobody. But it is a fantasy site so let him have his fun.
RE: Any sportmen here?
No, nothing bad "ex yahoo buddy" (lol)... very nice of you actually. And thank you for the kind words, my friends...
Some viewers think I am too soft, or maybe a bit daft. I kiss too many asses (even if they are the prettiest on the planet). I melt when my sweet friend bats her eyes at me, rather than insist that the customer is always right, and I ought to know better. I am an easy target for those who consider themselves more sophisticated than me.
So there are those who simply don't like me. Oh well. Not important.
I prefer generally to be helpful and understanding in what I say here, and to accentuate the positive. There is certainly enough negativity and darkness to go around already, and I do recognize "truth" reflected in some of what is said in those dark places.
But my friends... I respect, admire, and love them (yes, if you like that word) as individuals, not as representatives of a class of people known as "hosts," or "everybody." I seek to know their characters, their minds, their qualities as people beyond what is merely skin deep. If they are mentioned in a public forum I will say what I know about them if I feel they are being wronged. So if that is what is called living (and loving lol) in fantasy I am guilty as charged.
Some viewers think I am too soft, or maybe a bit daft. I kiss too many asses (even if they are the prettiest on the planet). I melt when my sweet friend bats her eyes at me, rather than insist that the customer is always right, and I ought to know better. I am an easy target for those who consider themselves more sophisticated than me.
So there are those who simply don't like me. Oh well. Not important.
I prefer generally to be helpful and understanding in what I say here, and to accentuate the positive. There is certainly enough negativity and darkness to go around already, and I do recognize "truth" reflected in some of what is said in those dark places.
But my friends... I respect, admire, and love them (yes, if you like that word) as individuals, not as representatives of a class of people known as "hosts," or "everybody." I seek to know their characters, their minds, their qualities as people beyond what is merely skin deep. If they are mentioned in a public forum I will say what I know about them if I feel they are being wronged. So if that is what is called living (and loving lol) in fantasy I am guilty as charged.
RE: Any sportmen here?
Didn't you tell us a few months back that you were leaving CC, or at least no more video for you? How long did that last, lol?
RE: Any sportmen here?
Sweety, let them think whatever. They are just jealous puppies. You are a kind person and I am glad that I met someone like you in c.c. You know you are always the BEST for me. I love our chats and the sweet words you always tell me. Kiss you my white knight.
HooDooBoy
Baby, you are a gentleman, sweet, and very good friend, other members which they were like you. At least you post with your own screen name and not like others that hide who they are. You are one of my very few favorite members from here.
RE: HooDooBoy
It is the very fact that he uses his own screen name to post that keeps him in line. There is something to be said for using one's screen name, but not using one's name also allows everyone to truly say what they are thinking. It is no different than voting in secret for government elections.
You are also assuming he never posts under another name. How do you know what he does? His posts that contain his name may be but one part of his true personality. And he could have multiple screen names as well where he acts totally differently and simply never gives his cam.
Based on what I see in the forums and what I hear from hosts, he is generally a decent person and is respectful to hosts, at least when he acts as HooDooBoy. (I have no idea if he has other names.) Nevertheless, I have also heard a number of criticisms. None of the negative remarks are horrible or anything, but let's just leave it as his self-described butt kissing of every host here has annoyed a few hosts, not in terms of breaking their hearts or anything, but in terms of thinking that they truly were his friend and that he would be there for them.
Like I said before, when you love everyone, in many ways you love no one. You cannot be everyone's friend. It just doesn't work and you end up like a politician. But I certainly don't think he is a bad person. I simply don't think he is the saint a few hosts are trying to paint him out to be.
Congrats Hoo.... You are a star here. :-)
You are also assuming he never posts under another name. How do you know what he does? His posts that contain his name may be but one part of his true personality. And he could have multiple screen names as well where he acts totally differently and simply never gives his cam.
Based on what I see in the forums and what I hear from hosts, he is generally a decent person and is respectful to hosts, at least when he acts as HooDooBoy. (I have no idea if he has other names.) Nevertheless, I have also heard a number of criticisms. None of the negative remarks are horrible or anything, but let's just leave it as his self-described butt kissing of every host here has annoyed a few hosts, not in terms of breaking their hearts or anything, but in terms of thinking that they truly were his friend and that he would be there for them.
Like I said before, when you love everyone, in many ways you love no one. You cannot be everyone's friend. It just doesn't work and you end up like a politician. But I certainly don't think he is a bad person. I simply don't think he is the saint a few hosts are trying to paint him out to be.
Congrats Hoo.... You are a star here. :-)
RE: HooDooBoy
HooDooBoy has been my friend for long time and he has always been a great guy. Not everyone here is a bad guy. I am sure HooDooBoy will never come with another nick and act differently. He doesnt need it. Many, maybe most host are happy to have someone like HooDoo in their chat. I can say I enjoy my chats with him. He is sweet and friendly and always willing to help. What I like about him is not that he is not pushy, bossy, or rude. He knows how to treat a girl. He has a great character, very smart, and best of all is that he is very mature.
RE: HooDooBoy
why cant someone be nice to everybody? i know Hoodob and i like he. anybody that meets him will like him cuz he is nice and good man. pls do not be so jealous. i give advice, pls be nice and maybe the girls will like u as much as we like Hoodoob
RE: HooDooBoy
I feel I have to apologize to Avr0va, since this thread has nothing to do with her post.
And anyone else who is tired of reading about me, sorry. I'll stop now.
Member, your posts are well-reasoned and well-considered in general. You are skeptical, maybe too suspicious at times, but to good purpose usually I think; you question people's motives in light of their actions (or purported actions): and all this makes for interesting reading in the forums.
But you are taking me waaaaaaaay too seriously. My "... self-described butt kissing of every host here..." ???
In what dark corner did you leave your sense of humor?
HooDooBoy of course is an illusion, just as "member" is an illusion. Viewers are not to be taken at face value for what they claim to be. What host needs to be told this? My friends here certainly know this.
I do not claim to be beyond reproach, far from it. I disappoint some people, I know this, and I regret it for the most part. I don't want to be a star, and open my own room, be a "coverboy" lol; I just want to be myself, if there is such a thing (the whole idea of selfhood is problematic, but that's another thread).
HooDooBoy represents a better part of me, but is it untrue? I hope not. But here's the thing: I have gotten to know a number of hosts over time, obviously, and by now I think they probably know me better than I realize. There is something to a woman's intuition. I'm just happy I haven't been kicked to the curb. Yet.
And anyone else who is tired of reading about me, sorry. I'll stop now.
Member, your posts are well-reasoned and well-considered in general. You are skeptical, maybe too suspicious at times, but to good purpose usually I think; you question people's motives in light of their actions (or purported actions): and all this makes for interesting reading in the forums.
But you are taking me waaaaaaaay too seriously. My "... self-described butt kissing of every host here..." ???
In what dark corner did you leave your sense of humor?
HooDooBoy of course is an illusion, just as "member" is an illusion. Viewers are not to be taken at face value for what they claim to be. What host needs to be told this? My friends here certainly know this.
I do not claim to be beyond reproach, far from it. I disappoint some people, I know this, and I regret it for the most part. I don't want to be a star, and open my own room, be a "coverboy" lol; I just want to be myself, if there is such a thing (the whole idea of selfhood is problematic, but that's another thread).
HooDooBoy represents a better part of me, but is it untrue? I hope not. But here's the thing: I have gotten to know a number of hosts over time, obviously, and by now I think they probably know me better than I realize. There is something to a woman's intuition. I'm just happy I haven't been kicked to the curb. Yet.
RE: confused
As long as you only think about, dream about or look at the other guy I don't really see a problem.
Of course it could be because you are worried about it that you dream about it.
Of course it could be because you are worried about it that you dream about it.
RE: confused
First off, keep in mind that when we dream, the characters we see are often NOT who they are in reality, but personifications of:
1) Ourselves.
2) Someone else (see the resemblance between you "other guy" you dream of, and your partner).
Relax and analyze the dream, as well as the persons in it and their actions.
It can mean anything, like for instance, your desire for your partner to offer you something that only the other guy does/did.
As for why you dream of the other guy, it is all related to your history with him, but in general terms, you dream of him because you have the memory of him in your mind, and because he was important to you at some point. What that memory is all about, is for you to know.
Oh, as for dreaming? People dream every night, we simply don't remember all of our dreams, due to multiple and various reasons.
1) Ourselves.
2) Someone else (see the resemblance between you "other guy" you dream of, and your partner).
Relax and analyze the dream, as well as the persons in it and their actions.
It can mean anything, like for instance, your desire for your partner to offer you something that only the other guy does/did.
As for why you dream of the other guy, it is all related to your history with him, but in general terms, you dream of him because you have the memory of him in your mind, and because he was important to you at some point. What that memory is all about, is for you to know.
Oh, as for dreaming? People dream every night, we simply don't remember all of our dreams, due to multiple and various reasons.
RE: confused
thanks for ur answers
im thinkinh maybe i didn t had closure with the other guy and that s why i keep thinking about him.For the record he was a guy i dated a few times and spoke online quite a long time but nothing happened ...or serious...or sex between us..and i know for sure it wouldn t work or he could never do the stuff my bf does or treat me like my bf does ...but im still thinking about him
damn it
yes lexi....what s ur prob???
im thinkinh maybe i didn t had closure with the other guy and that s why i keep thinking about him.For the record he was a guy i dated a few times and spoke online quite a long time but nothing happened ...or serious...or sex between us..and i know for sure it wouldn t work or he could never do the stuff my bf does or treat me like my bf does ...but im still thinking about him
damn it
yes lexi....what s ur prob???
RE: confused
Hello, Lexi...I am very sorry to hear that your ex is trying to chase you.My ex husband lives in US and he re-married a girl from Russia that I suggested him to marry.During divorce, my ex husband was still visting me, inviting me out...and it looked endless and I was very friendly because I cared for him.To date the Russian girl was my idea and first evening we have been out all three in a nice club to dance and to drink something.I had to tell him, whispering:"Do not take her home immediately, take her to eat a pizza , walk a bit, things like this"..He followed and they have a son now.You can try the same thing, after all, there are so many girls without any boyfriend.
I gained my freedom and we stayed friends 16 years after.
You can ccmail me. At my age, I know few things just from experience.Have faith, my dear.
Sincerely,
Beautyfruit
I gained my freedom and we stayed friends 16 years after.
You can ccmail me. At my age, I know few things just from experience.Have faith, my dear.
Sincerely,
Beautyfruit
RE: fiance visa
I take it you are from USA? From what I know to get this type of visa is going to be very difficult for her. When she has an interview at the consulate they will ask her to provide evidence that you know each other in real life to prove it's not another fictious marriage for a green card. Where's she from?
RE: fiance visa
I thought so. The easiest way is that you come to Russia and marry her here, then take her back home with you as your family member. I have been told it's less difficult when you are married already.
RE: fiance visa
Actually, until your post, I have ALWAYS heard that it is easier to get a fiancee visa than a visa to move to the USA after marriage. I know that seems to be the opposite of what it should be, but that has consistently been what people on CC and elsewhere say.
RE: fiance visa
looking at his english I don't think he is from US.
But Master..Andrea is right. She has has to arrange the initial paperwork from the embassy in her country. I assume your country must have some kind of immigration site on the internet where you can find an answer to all your questions.
But Master..Andrea is right. She has has to arrange the initial paperwork from the embassy in her country. I assume your country must have some kind of immigration site on the internet where you can find an answer to all your questions.
RE: fiance visa
Actually, I think he must arrange the initial paperwork, mail it to her, she completes her part, and then she brings it to the embassy. I would even consider going with her to the embassy.
RE: fiance visa
I've heard that it is a pain in the ass to get, but more in terms of the documentation than anything else. It isn't like a tourist visa where income matters. It is all about the legitimacy of the relationship.
Just have pics with yourself and your gf, pics with both of u and her family, records of phone calls, emails, and other things to prove the validity of the relatioinship. I don't think your income matters.... That just matters when you are sending a letter of invitation for someone to visit since the government wants to make sure the visitor won't be a burden on the country. A lawyer would be a good idea too.
Congratulations and good luck.
Just have pics with yourself and your gf, pics with both of u and her family, records of phone calls, emails, and other things to prove the validity of the relatioinship. I don't think your income matters.... That just matters when you are sending a letter of invitation for someone to visit since the government wants to make sure the visitor won't be a burden on the country. A lawyer would be a good idea too.
Congratulations and good luck.
RE: fiance visa
u want the visa, or you want to get it for her? if your lady is in Romania, and you in USA you don't need visa,at least not as of a year or so ago. however, if she is coming here, she needs a visa, and visas are hard to get for romanians, but ifyou are here to vouch for her it shouldn't be too hard to get. check with Immigration and Naturalization Service for requirements.
RE: fiance visa
The easiest way is actually to get her a student visa to a junior college near your home. You or her must show you have the financial resources to pay for tuition, room and board and other education and living expenses. She also has to pass the TOEFL test of English proficiency. Once she is here...you marry her. Then you file for a change in status. It works. I work at a university and it happens constantly. The trick is not to reveal a romantic relationship when applying for the student visa. You can offer room and board and living expenses though she must have funds sufficient to pay for the tuition. She will have to attend at least a semester of school befoer you marry so you dont appear to be circumventing the law. Plus an associates degree from a US college will help her get a job.
Good luck.
Good luck.
RE: fiance visa
I think I will just marry a host and move to her country. Maybe I can get a job in the American embassy there or open a small store or something. Like "The Clash" said, "I'm so bored with the USA." Just look at CC and the hot women from Europe. Why come here? :p
RE: SOS
When he registers, it will say....
How did you find us: Chathost
Promotion
Other
Then he picks chathost and it will say...
Chathost screenname:
And he enters your name.
If he has a problem, make sure he contacts CC BEFORE registering since it is too late once he registers to say you referred him.
How did you find us: Chathost
Promotion
Other
Then he picks chathost and it will say...
Chathost screenname:
And he enters your name.
If he has a problem, make sure he contacts CC BEFORE registering since it is too late once he registers to say you referred him.
"My Forum"
Don't know about anyone else but before I visit a chathost I have never seen before I check their "My Forum" page to see what other visitors thought.
If I get a particularly good or bad experience with a chathost I usually leave some kind of comment. I try to be as fair and as honest as possible.
It would be good to see more people using "My Forum" as it would allow others to gauge a chathost before committing to a visit and also let chathosts see what they were doing well or less well.
The only thing I would say is that it should be constructive and not a slanging match.
Any thoughts?
If I get a particularly good or bad experience with a chathost I usually leave some kind of comment. I try to be as fair and as honest as possible.
It would be good to see more people using "My Forum" as it would allow others to gauge a chathost before committing to a visit and also let chathosts see what they were doing well or less well.
The only thing I would say is that it should be constructive and not a slanging match.
Any thoughts?
RE:
It would seem to me that this feature would get used alot more if they would incorporate it in the same page as where you rate the model after your session......
RE:
You probably right.
And while we are talking about things being in the right place....Wouldn't it be good to see the video rates on the profile page instead of having to click through to them.
And while we are talking about things being in the right place....Wouldn't it be good to see the video rates on the profile page instead of having to click through to them.
RE: "My Forum"
As hosts can delete any posts from their "My Forum" page it imay not be that useful for gauging a host.
RE: "My Forum"
If a host can remove anything they want from the forum it is hardly worth having.
The star rating system is ok as far as it goes but does not give a fair overview of a host, a new host may not have any stars at all but be the best host here.
I know that there is always going to be a certain amount of subjectivity about comments, no two guests are the same and with good hosts no two visits are the same, but if more people left comments a good host would have more good ones than bad.
I think the vast majority of hosts do a very difficult job very well and I respect them all but it is a buyer's market and a clearer comment system would mean that guests would be more likely to use a host best suited to them therefore giving more satisfied (sorry about the pun) customers and fewer hosts being asked for services they do not like or provide. Everybody wins.
The star rating system is ok as far as it goes but does not give a fair overview of a host, a new host may not have any stars at all but be the best host here.
I know that there is always going to be a certain amount of subjectivity about comments, no two guests are the same and with good hosts no two visits are the same, but if more people left comments a good host would have more good ones than bad.
I think the vast majority of hosts do a very difficult job very well and I respect them all but it is a buyer's market and a clearer comment system would mean that guests would be more likely to use a host best suited to them therefore giving more satisfied (sorry about the pun) customers and fewer hosts being asked for services they do not like or provide. Everybody wins.
Ladies...help me out here
Ladies could you perhaps tell me why twice in my life I have had women start crying right in the middle of our lovemaking. And not just a little cry... the body shaking kind and lots of tears. I asked each of them what was wrong and they both replied "nothing". There weren't any problems with our relationships at the time.
P.S. Note to ImNotYourFriend: sorry to step on your straight line, buddy, but I wasn't in bed with them both at the same time.
P.S. Note to ImNotYourFriend: sorry to step on your straight line, buddy, but I wasn't in bed with them both at the same time.
RE: Ladies...help me out here
:) i cry many times. When i am already veru sensitive about other things in my life and i go in bed with my hubby ,i also cry somethimes during love making . Are happy tears.
RE: Ladies...help me out here
Try cutting out the onions on your kebabs?
Who knows the emotions of the fairer sex? From kitten to Tiger in 10 seconds ..... we just have to ride the wave.
Then again maybe you have one of those 'man orgasm faces' that would scare Conan The Barbarian! :)
Who knows the emotions of the fairer sex? From kitten to Tiger in 10 seconds ..... we just have to ride the wave.
Then again maybe you have one of those 'man orgasm faces' that would scare Conan The Barbarian! :)
RE: Ladies...help me out here
Did these women by chance just get out of another relationship? Maybe it was guilt.?
RE: Ladies...help me out here
Now that I think about it more, you are probably right, sugarbear. thanks
RE: Ladies...help me out here
I had that happen to me once, she told me it was tears of joy.....but then again, she isnt with me anymore.......so......who knows......
RE: Ladies...help me out here
i cried once during sex making when i remembered how good was my ex was in bed then realised i left him for someone not so good as him. sorry if this is the case with your girls.
RE: Ladies...help me out here
I cried during sex too .... but I did after all go to a boarding school run by priests....
Well what did you expect? Wisdom?? :)
Well what did you expect? Wisdom?? :)
To host "me" - an explanation about economics
I understand what it is you're talking about and trying to achieve. I'm sure you feel that your income is getting tighter and that's why you posted about dollars and pounds and euros, and how prices don't feel right anymore. But in terms of money, here's what's actually going on...
In times past, the US dollar was always STRONGER in value than other international currencies. So, if you were a host and were paid in $USD, that means that once you converted your earnings to your own country's currency, it used to feel LARGER. It also means that your subsequent "buying power" -- in other words, when you went out to buy things, to shop, etc -- always felt LARGER. Simply put, it always felt like you had more disposable money at hand.
Now, keep this in mind too -- because the $USD was so strong against foreign currencies, it also meant that all of the goods and services that YOU make and export from your home countries (clothing, electronics, etc) COST LESS to buy here in the United States (or even when Americans traveled abroad and visited your countries). That is WHY foreign countries had such strong exports…and thus they also had strong, growing economies. In short, because the dollar was so strong…because it was worth so much more…it meant Americans could buy soooo much more of your stuff. And that is WHY the American economy is always referred to as a "consumer based economy." It's because Americans buying stuff and constantly spending their money kept the world economy churning and flowing.
BUT NOW…with the global recession taking place... the dollar is WEAKER against foreign currencies. That means everything gets flipped around. Everything is now the OPPOSITE. But there's good news and bad news in that.
The BAD news is if you are a host and get paid in dollars, it will now feel like you're making a bit LESS than you did before. That's because -- once the $USD is converted to your home country's currency -- your "buying power" isn't what it used to be. In short, the dollar doesn't buy "as much" as it used to. However, the GOOD news is that in the long run this will help everyone because it will now stabilize the world's economies and balance things out. Whether you love us or hate us, other than China, the United States and the U.S. dollar IS the driving force behind all of the world's economies. So it's vitally important to get the U.S. economy up and running. So, here's what all of this means…
Right now, a weaker dollar means American goods and services are CHEAPER to buy both here in the States AND for us to ship out as exports TO YOU. In other words, it's now becoming cheaper for you to buy OUR stuff instead of the other way around (where we were always buying from you). That means the American economy will get more of YOUR money…your money will now come to us (instead of our money going to you)...which helps to jump start the economic engine of the world.
That's because the more money that comes to American companies, the more they can hire people. And the more they can hire people, the more that Americans will earn and have money to spend. And once Americans have more disposable income to spend…well, then we're right back to where we started. We've come full circle. The value of the U.S. dollar will rise… which means goods & services from YOUR countries will once again be less expensive… so Americans will start buying YOUR exports again and spending money on YOU and in YOUR countries. And thus you'll be back to making more money.
In times past, the US dollar was always STRONGER in value than other international currencies. So, if you were a host and were paid in $USD, that means that once you converted your earnings to your own country's currency, it used to feel LARGER. It also means that your subsequent "buying power" -- in other words, when you went out to buy things, to shop, etc -- always felt LARGER. Simply put, it always felt like you had more disposable money at hand.
Now, keep this in mind too -- because the $USD was so strong against foreign currencies, it also meant that all of the goods and services that YOU make and export from your home countries (clothing, electronics, etc) COST LESS to buy here in the United States (or even when Americans traveled abroad and visited your countries). That is WHY foreign countries had such strong exports…and thus they also had strong, growing economies. In short, because the dollar was so strong…because it was worth so much more…it meant Americans could buy soooo much more of your stuff. And that is WHY the American economy is always referred to as a "consumer based economy." It's because Americans buying stuff and constantly spending their money kept the world economy churning and flowing.
BUT NOW…with the global recession taking place... the dollar is WEAKER against foreign currencies. That means everything gets flipped around. Everything is now the OPPOSITE. But there's good news and bad news in that.
The BAD news is if you are a host and get paid in dollars, it will now feel like you're making a bit LESS than you did before. That's because -- once the $USD is converted to your home country's currency -- your "buying power" isn't what it used to be. In short, the dollar doesn't buy "as much" as it used to. However, the GOOD news is that in the long run this will help everyone because it will now stabilize the world's economies and balance things out. Whether you love us or hate us, other than China, the United States and the U.S. dollar IS the driving force behind all of the world's economies. So it's vitally important to get the U.S. economy up and running. So, here's what all of this means…
Right now, a weaker dollar means American goods and services are CHEAPER to buy both here in the States AND for us to ship out as exports TO YOU. In other words, it's now becoming cheaper for you to buy OUR stuff instead of the other way around (where we were always buying from you). That means the American economy will get more of YOUR money…your money will now come to us (instead of our money going to you)...which helps to jump start the economic engine of the world.
That's because the more money that comes to American companies, the more they can hire people. And the more they can hire people, the more that Americans will earn and have money to spend. And once Americans have more disposable income to spend…well, then we're right back to where we started. We've come full circle. The value of the U.S. dollar will rise… which means goods & services from YOUR countries will once again be less expensive… so Americans will start buying YOUR exports again and spending money on YOU and in YOUR countries. And thus you'll be back to making more money.
RE: To host
here are not many goods from usa.. u know china is on first place in the world now:)
RE: To host
the notion that china has the number 1 economy in the world is wrong. it may have just passed japan for number 2 but is a long way off from being number 1
RE: To host
if china is number 1 the world is in trouble since the usa still accounts for 25% of the world's economy for china to be number 1 means those 2 control more than half. doesnt leave much for the EU, russia, india, brazil and the rest of the world now does it
RE: To host
list of world's largest economies as of end of 2008
1 United States 14,441,425
2 Japan 4,910,692
3 China 4,327,448h
4 Germany 3,673,105
listed as millions of USD
china has moved past japan in 2009 but still has a ling way to go
1 United States 14,441,425
2 Japan 4,910,692
3 China 4,327,448h
4 Germany 3,673,105
listed as millions of USD
china has moved past japan in 2009 but still has a ling way to go
RE: To host
Once the European Union becomes one country we will be number 1 :D
Although I'd rather stay on our own and remain sixth.
Although I'd rather stay on our own and remain sixth.
RE: To host
You forgot the bit where America then BORROWS the money back from the exporting country that they just gave them.... :)
RE: To host
LMAO! That's very true and a valid point as well.
But that's a whole OTHER economic lecture.
But for the short version -- that's actually the lynch pin to what's gone so horribly wrong in global economics. In cave man days, it was simple -- you had hunted and killed a mastodon, so you had extra food to sell...meanwhile your neighbor had hunted a pack of saber tooth tigers and skinned them, so he now had warm clothes to sell. So you bartered and traded and everyone went home happy.
The problem with the world's economy is that far too many people just don't DO anything or actually MAKE anything anymore. That's the whole problem with a "consumer based economy". You can't have everyone just BUYING things. You can't have people just enjoying things. The problem with the world's economies is that far too many people want to be the Queen Bee and not enough people want to be the worker bee anymore.
The irony here? Hosts actually are worker bees and at the bottom of the economic food chain. Like my caveman analogy above, a host actually DOES provide a service that can be bartered for. Namely, she agrees to strip or rub herself (to get you off)...you pay her for her effort and time. That's actually a sound business model.
The only problem is...the service (so to speak) that hosts provide can easily and instantly be replaced. Since you're looking at hosts online, every single guy here could just as easily look at online porn and jerk off for free -- same end result. Ultimately, hosts are in a tough spot. That's because they are totally dependent on guys having DISPOSABLE income, otherwise their work and client base dries up in a heart beat and their "job" has absolutely no real value.
Going back to your point, the problem is that America -- and other countries as well, but to a lesser degree -- have lived beyond their means for FAR too long, and only managed to stay afloat by borrowing money. So you're richt, White Coat. It just became a house of cards that was inevitably going to implode because you can only borrow money for so long till the day comes when there's no one left to borrow from OR they have no money left to loan either.
And that's where the world is right now. Everyone except for China is pretty much broke, and it's time for all of us -- all around the world -- to pay our bills and pay off our credit cards. Unfortunately, that's going to be a long and painful process for many, many people.
But that's a whole OTHER economic lecture.
But for the short version -- that's actually the lynch pin to what's gone so horribly wrong in global economics. In cave man days, it was simple -- you had hunted and killed a mastodon, so you had extra food to sell...meanwhile your neighbor had hunted a pack of saber tooth tigers and skinned them, so he now had warm clothes to sell. So you bartered and traded and everyone went home happy.
The problem with the world's economy is that far too many people just don't DO anything or actually MAKE anything anymore. That's the whole problem with a "consumer based economy". You can't have everyone just BUYING things. You can't have people just enjoying things. The problem with the world's economies is that far too many people want to be the Queen Bee and not enough people want to be the worker bee anymore.
The irony here? Hosts actually are worker bees and at the bottom of the economic food chain. Like my caveman analogy above, a host actually DOES provide a service that can be bartered for. Namely, she agrees to strip or rub herself (to get you off)...you pay her for her effort and time. That's actually a sound business model.
The only problem is...the service (so to speak) that hosts provide can easily and instantly be replaced. Since you're looking at hosts online, every single guy here could just as easily look at online porn and jerk off for free -- same end result. Ultimately, hosts are in a tough spot. That's because they are totally dependent on guys having DISPOSABLE income, otherwise their work and client base dries up in a heart beat and their "job" has absolutely no real value.
Going back to your point, the problem is that America -- and other countries as well, but to a lesser degree -- have lived beyond their means for FAR too long, and only managed to stay afloat by borrowing money. So you're richt, White Coat. It just became a house of cards that was inevitably going to implode because you can only borrow money for so long till the day comes when there's no one left to borrow from OR they have no money left to loan either.
And that's where the world is right now. Everyone except for China is pretty much broke, and it's time for all of us -- all around the world -- to pay our bills and pay off our credit cards. Unfortunately, that's going to be a long and painful process for many, many people.
RE: To host
the girls in free porn on the net - they do respond to me, interact with me, told me i'm best lover, I am for them so hot hot baby. they love me to fuck them harddddd
RE: To host
It's not all about 'America'. There are major economies other than the USA driving the world, not least the European Union. How nice it would be if the stereotypical american were not so insular and blinkered to recognise that there is a world outside their borders, which much of the time really goes about its life without any input or need for 'America'.
Have a nice day :-)
Have a nice day :-)
RE: To host
No visa needed thx, been there, done that. No need to go again lol.
Seen the world and America isn't all it's cracked up to be. Pretty much all towns look identical, I could be anywhere!
But then, that's just the opinion of a humble 'european'.
Seen the world and America isn't all it's cracked up to be. Pretty much all towns look identical, I could be anywhere!
But then, that's just the opinion of a humble 'european'.
RE: To host
Your post seems pretty patronising to me and in one area overcomplicates things. You say "if you were a host and were paid in $USD, that means that once you converted your earnings to your own country's currency, it used to feel LARGER". It didn't just feel larger it actually was larger. The host got more money in her local currency for each dollar she earned than she does now.
RE: To host
It's nice to see how this thread has become your typical anti-USA thread when all the thread starter was doing was trying to explain something. Yes, a number of his points are inaccurate, lol, but he did not have any type of attitude behind his post. But slowly but surely it all became one big ugly fight.
All of this is even more ridiculous given how many hosts friends I have that still want to move to the USA even with the world's economic crisis still going on. And I especially loved the post that said most hosts make more than most members. I don't have any definite information about what all the members here make, or what all the hosts make either, but if I was going to guess, I would be very surprised if most members did not make a lot more than most hosts.
The bottom line is that currencies go up and currencies go down, and the last few years, the dollar has been pretty weak overall. Nevertheless, I believe that versus the British pound, the dollar has always been weaker, but the dollar over the long term is pretty much improving against the British pound. In fact, the pound, which is about $1,60 today, is close to its all time lowest levels versus the dollar right now.
(Source: http://www.measuringworth.org/datasets/exchangepound/result.php)
Versus the euro, it is pointless to have a discussion. The Euro is only about 10 years old so there is no way to predict what will happen. Versus China, again it is pointless since China artificially controls the value of its currency more than other countries and keeps its currency low in order to give its companies an advantage when they sell goods to other countries. (The USA, and I am sure other countries too, also do this but not nearly as much.)
The entire world's economy is all connected. The fact that there is a WORLD economic crisis should tell everyone that. And yes, China is becoming more of a player, but I don't think the USA is going anywhere anytime soon, lol. Sorry, you are stuck with us, and it is most likely that the USA's economy will improve before Europe's which means U.S. interest rates will rise faster than those in Europe which means the dollar will start to catch up to the Euro.
So take heart, my dear hosts. If you wait about 6 months to a year, you will once again have a lot more Euro's for the dollars you earn here. The problem is your prices are much higher than those in the USA and will continue to remain so. In the USA, things like gasoline/petrol, food, clothes, housing seem to be cheaper than those items in other countries based on my unscientific discussions with hosts and observations when I watch and read the news. What does this mean? Despite the negative comments, hosts will continue to want to marry American members, lol, so stop picking fights with them. And whatever you do, don't start posting that prices are too low in the general forum. It is never good business to tell your customers that they should pay more. (Well, unless your customer is a money slave, lol.)
All of this is even more ridiculous given how many hosts friends I have that still want to move to the USA even with the world's economic crisis still going on. And I especially loved the post that said most hosts make more than most members. I don't have any definite information about what all the members here make, or what all the hosts make either, but if I was going to guess, I would be very surprised if most members did not make a lot more than most hosts.
The bottom line is that currencies go up and currencies go down, and the last few years, the dollar has been pretty weak overall. Nevertheless, I believe that versus the British pound, the dollar has always been weaker, but the dollar over the long term is pretty much improving against the British pound. In fact, the pound, which is about $1,60 today, is close to its all time lowest levels versus the dollar right now.
(Source: http://www.measuringworth.org/datasets/exchangepound/result.php)
Versus the euro, it is pointless to have a discussion. The Euro is only about 10 years old so there is no way to predict what will happen. Versus China, again it is pointless since China artificially controls the value of its currency more than other countries and keeps its currency low in order to give its companies an advantage when they sell goods to other countries. (The USA, and I am sure other countries too, also do this but not nearly as much.)
The entire world's economy is all connected. The fact that there is a WORLD economic crisis should tell everyone that. And yes, China is becoming more of a player, but I don't think the USA is going anywhere anytime soon, lol. Sorry, you are stuck with us, and it is most likely that the USA's economy will improve before Europe's which means U.S. interest rates will rise faster than those in Europe which means the dollar will start to catch up to the Euro.
So take heart, my dear hosts. If you wait about 6 months to a year, you will once again have a lot more Euro's for the dollars you earn here. The problem is your prices are much higher than those in the USA and will continue to remain so. In the USA, things like gasoline/petrol, food, clothes, housing seem to be cheaper than those items in other countries based on my unscientific discussions with hosts and observations when I watch and read the news. What does this mean? Despite the negative comments, hosts will continue to want to marry American members, lol, so stop picking fights with them. And whatever you do, don't start posting that prices are too low in the general forum. It is never good business to tell your customers that they should pay more. (Well, unless your customer is a money slave, lol.)
RE: To host
The pound is a long way from its alltime lowest level against the dollar. It was less than $1.1 in 1985.
RE: To host
I am talking about the general trend of the pound versus the dollar, and in historical terms, $1,60 is a lot closer to $1,10 than the all time high for the pound versus the dollar. Even if you just picked the life-time of a 40 year old member, the pound is closer to $1,10 than its high in those 40 years.
I am not sure where you get $1,10, by the way. I suppose there was one day in 1985 when the pound reached that low, perhaps during some market correction, I don't know. (Lucky for me, I was travelling through Europe in 1985, lol.) And I think last year that the pound was below $1,40. Anyway, the point is that the pound is a lot weaker than it has been recently and "me" was complaining about the pound versus the dollar. If anything, she should be happy since the pound is a lot weaker as of late.
The real issue has been the dollar versus the euro, not the dollar versus the pound, although the last two weeks have been good for the dollar. But more than that, like I said, it is the price of goods in Europe, regardless of currency fluctuations that is the real issue. In general, my understanding is that things simply cost more there.
I am not sure where you get $1,10, by the way. I suppose there was one day in 1985 when the pound reached that low, perhaps during some market correction, I don't know. (Lucky for me, I was travelling through Europe in 1985, lol.) And I think last year that the pound was below $1,40. Anyway, the point is that the pound is a lot weaker than it has been recently and "me" was complaining about the pound versus the dollar. If anything, she should be happy since the pound is a lot weaker as of late.
The real issue has been the dollar versus the euro, not the dollar versus the pound, although the last two weeks have been good for the dollar. But more than that, like I said, it is the price of goods in Europe, regardless of currency fluctuations that is the real issue. In general, my understanding is that things simply cost more there.
RE: To host
The pound was below or around $1.10 for a while around March 2005.At its lowest it reached $1.03. The current rate of around $1.60 is close to the average over the past 40 years (or since the end of Bretton-Woods). This thread has not become an Anti-USA thread. One does not have to be anti USA to want to inject some balance after the totally USA centric post of the orginal poster.
RE: To host
Erm....First of all the anti-american posts appear just cos american posters act like USA is the president of the world and we all depend on them.
Second of all-lol do u really think that most hosts wanna move to the usa? Sure some do, but the majority of them are proly 18 yo. When i was 18 i wanted it too. Now when i grew up and know so much better whats really important in life-if id have to pick the country to move to id pick some with more of a cultural history lol. Usa is a young country and doesnt have much of a history and culture, comparing to wonderful England, France or Italy for instance. So pls dpnt flatter urself, i guess it seems that soooo many girls wanna move there just cos most of them, wanna move anywhere and here on cc the majority of members are americans.
P.S, I dont hate America or something, its just..I dont really care:)
Second of all-lol do u really think that most hosts wanna move to the usa? Sure some do, but the majority of them are proly 18 yo. When i was 18 i wanted it too. Now when i grew up and know so much better whats really important in life-if id have to pick the country to move to id pick some with more of a cultural history lol. Usa is a young country and doesnt have much of a history and culture, comparing to wonderful England, France or Italy for instance. So pls dpnt flatter urself, i guess it seems that soooo many girls wanna move there just cos most of them, wanna move anywhere and here on cc the majority of members are americans.
P.S, I dont hate America or something, its just..I dont really care:)
RE: To host
Whew...from squirting pussys, to pricing reform, and now world economics....makes for a heavy day!! lol
Time for a beer..cheers!
Time for a beer..cheers!
RE: To host
You know its really not as complicated as everyone thinks......just take a shit load of money, give it to the pilsbury doh boy, and tell him to invest it....this is what will happen.
RE: To host
but, just wait,... the North American Union will form in order to compete...and well, it will be the Amero currency fueling the capitalistic engine.
Its an ego thing I think )))
Its an ego thing I think )))
RE: To host
I think we should find a nice leather sofa, light up a cigar, find a nice bottle of Armenian cognac, and discuss this further. ;)
RE: To host
armenian brandy.......illegal to use cognac if not from that region of france. never forget the french drive the world :P
RE: To host
Isn't that the core of the problem really..our economic engine?
Capitalism is an engine I would relate to an old Ford 400ci.
Big, noisy, unreliable, and when you demand more HP, it will suck your fuel tank dry and leave you stranded.
What we need is a hybrid, or next time you know who is going to be towing us to the next fuel station.
Capitalism is an engine I would relate to an old Ford 400ci.
Big, noisy, unreliable, and when you demand more HP, it will suck your fuel tank dry and leave you stranded.
What we need is a hybrid, or next time you know who is going to be towing us to the next fuel station.
RE: To host "me" - an explanation about economics
unless........there is a union.......North American Union.
What a great forum!!
Well, I gotta tell ya this morning this forum beat out msn and yahoo ..lol
Over one cup of coffee, I had the pleasure to be sexually educated in the physiology of an ejaculating woman, .. then entertained by a somewhat fruitless attempt to overturn the pricing structure here a CC...and learned that its not a good time to visit the UK due to the exchange rate.
Thanks CC, this is what "freedom of speech" is all about.
Over one cup of coffee, I had the pleasure to be sexually educated in the physiology of an ejaculating woman, .. then entertained by a somewhat fruitless attempt to overturn the pricing structure here a CC...and learned that its not a good time to visit the UK due to the exchange rate.
Thanks CC, this is what "freedom of speech" is all about.
RE: What a great forum!!
It is not a good time to visit the UK? On the contrary..the pound sterling has dropped by a fair amount, and going there now is a better choice than any time!
RE: New faces?
I hope that any new faces are at least as good as the old ones. Change just for the sake of change makes no sense to me.
If AxB, for example, has great pics and her pics are better than other hosts' pics, why shouldn't she be a cover again? Why make a change to a host who doesn't look as good? That makes no sense.
This isn't about giving every host a chance. It is about running a business, and that means choosing hosts with the best pics. Now there is something to be said for variety, of course, but while variety might make some current members happy, these people are already members and cover pics aren't going to really impact how much they spend. It is for NEW members that cover pics are much more relevant so why shouldn't CC pick the best? Sports teams promote their stars, not their role players, after all, for the same reason.
Also CC needs to consider which hosts are good at getting guys to visit them a lot. It makes no sense to pick a host that isn't good at holding onto her members and getting lots of video even if she had good pics. CC should promote those hosts which will attract new members and get them to keep coming back to the site over and over again. Then, the other hosts will benefit since these new members will sooner or later start looking for some other hosts to visit as well. But it should all start with the best pics and the top hosts in terms of having a lot of members and do well in terms of a lot of video.
Assuming they are entering their pics and their pics are good, I would start with AxB, ChanelDoll, and Casablancka. These hosts take nice pics and are popular. AxB is your classic supermodel . ChanelDoll is your sexy seductress. And Casablancka is an exotic, natural beauty.... kind of like a brunette AxB but everything is real. It would be nice to add some fresh faces if they merited it, but I would start with these 3 if their pics look good.
Like I said, change for the sake of change makes no sense to me. Change should be for the better. Variety is the spice of life, but quality should come first, and these three hosts are top quality.
If AxB, for example, has great pics and her pics are better than other hosts' pics, why shouldn't she be a cover again? Why make a change to a host who doesn't look as good? That makes no sense.
This isn't about giving every host a chance. It is about running a business, and that means choosing hosts with the best pics. Now there is something to be said for variety, of course, but while variety might make some current members happy, these people are already members and cover pics aren't going to really impact how much they spend. It is for NEW members that cover pics are much more relevant so why shouldn't CC pick the best? Sports teams promote their stars, not their role players, after all, for the same reason.
Also CC needs to consider which hosts are good at getting guys to visit them a lot. It makes no sense to pick a host that isn't good at holding onto her members and getting lots of video even if she had good pics. CC should promote those hosts which will attract new members and get them to keep coming back to the site over and over again. Then, the other hosts will benefit since these new members will sooner or later start looking for some other hosts to visit as well. But it should all start with the best pics and the top hosts in terms of having a lot of members and do well in terms of a lot of video.
Assuming they are entering their pics and their pics are good, I would start with AxB, ChanelDoll, and Casablancka. These hosts take nice pics and are popular. AxB is your classic supermodel . ChanelDoll is your sexy seductress. And Casablancka is an exotic, natural beauty.... kind of like a brunette AxB but everything is real. It would be nice to add some fresh faces if they merited it, but I would start with these 3 if their pics look good.
Like I said, change for the sake of change makes no sense to me. Change should be for the better. Variety is the spice of life, but quality should come first, and these three hosts are top quality.
RE: New faces?
I don't know. I don't think it's about glamour pics. You may be enamoured by that look, but not everyone is. I see fake looking, photoshop air-brushed pics and that just by nature give me assumptions about the person sitting in front of the cam who uses that style to sell herself.
Variety sells to me. There are loads of sites with plastic looking pretend models.
The same old models in the same old pictures in the same old contests. I don't know, of course, but I'd be pretty surprised if these contests brought in much in the way of new members. It's something that appeals to people who already know the site and a little variety never hurts there.
The company I work for just had an R&D team meeting recently where the major point the VP was striving to get across is the idea that if we sit back and ride the coat-tails of our last release, we die. This is a must in any tech business. In a web-based porn industry, in particular, the "why change?" approach leads you to the back of the pack.
Variety sells to me. There are loads of sites with plastic looking pretend models.
The same old models in the same old pictures in the same old contests. I don't know, of course, but I'd be pretty surprised if these contests brought in much in the way of new members. It's something that appeals to people who already know the site and a little variety never hurts there.
The company I work for just had an R&D team meeting recently where the major point the VP was striving to get across is the idea that if we sit back and ride the coat-tails of our last release, we die. This is a must in any tech business. In a web-based porn industry, in particular, the "why change?" approach leads you to the back of the pack.
RE: New faces?
I would agree with you in other contexts in the business world, but not on CC. The product here is really the hosts, not the contests, so it is for the host to keep making herself interesting. The site just needs to get new guys' attention to get new members, and the best way to do that is put your best hosts (as measured by looks and ability to get video) on the cover whether or not they are "fresh faces". The new guy, after all, doesn't know if they are "fresh faces".... He just knows if he thinks they look hot. In fact, most new guys have no clue what is going on during a contest. I hear this all the time from hosts.
What happens with most current members during contest time is that they check out the cover pics and then go about their business as usual. Sure they might prefer some new faces, but I doubt they care too much, and anyway, they can see archive pics of those not chosen for the cover. After all, every contest we see members flocking to their favorites regardless of who is a cover girl. In fact, it is so bad during contests that hosts post about members just going to their favorites even though there have been a number of "fresh faces" recently.
It is really the nature of the contest (puzzles, words, et cetera) that could use a change and that might get current members to play more, but with Google and stuff, I don't know how CC can really do this. The pics for them have little impact since, like I said, most just go to their favorites at contest time.
But for NEW members, generally speaking, you want the pics that stand out and grab a guy's attention even if that means some photoshop. I am sure your boss told you that one key to business is to get the customer's attention. It doesn't matter how good your product is if the customer never looks your way. Well, hot pics will get guys to look CC's way, and yes, that can mean photoshop and yes, that can mean the same hosts much of the time. CC needs to put its best foot forward, grab a new guy's attention, and stick him in a room with a host that will make him happy. That's a key goal and experience, not a "fresh face", is what is necessary to achieve it.
Don't forget contests are really about two things: 1) nice pics to make the site look good (which includes looking good for new members) and 2) solidifying the bond between current members and their favorites which of course means members spend more. The last thing I think that a contest is about is so that members and hosts can have a truly challenging and interesting event. It is about promoting the site and bringing existing members and their favorites closer together. How do I know this? Simple, it happens every time.
I should also add that I checked out some of the "fresh faces" in recent contests, and was not very impressed with their pics or what I saw in video, not just in terms of how they looked but in terms of how interesting it was to talk to them. CC really needs to consider which hosts hold onto members and have a lot of regulars when picking the cover girls. If I had not been a long time member and judged CC by its recent "fresh faces", I might not have stuck around too long.
What happens with most current members during contest time is that they check out the cover pics and then go about their business as usual. Sure they might prefer some new faces, but I doubt they care too much, and anyway, they can see archive pics of those not chosen for the cover. After all, every contest we see members flocking to their favorites regardless of who is a cover girl. In fact, it is so bad during contests that hosts post about members just going to their favorites even though there have been a number of "fresh faces" recently.
It is really the nature of the contest (puzzles, words, et cetera) that could use a change and that might get current members to play more, but with Google and stuff, I don't know how CC can really do this. The pics for them have little impact since, like I said, most just go to their favorites at contest time.
But for NEW members, generally speaking, you want the pics that stand out and grab a guy's attention even if that means some photoshop. I am sure your boss told you that one key to business is to get the customer's attention. It doesn't matter how good your product is if the customer never looks your way. Well, hot pics will get guys to look CC's way, and yes, that can mean photoshop and yes, that can mean the same hosts much of the time. CC needs to put its best foot forward, grab a new guy's attention, and stick him in a room with a host that will make him happy. That's a key goal and experience, not a "fresh face", is what is necessary to achieve it.
Don't forget contests are really about two things: 1) nice pics to make the site look good (which includes looking good for new members) and 2) solidifying the bond between current members and their favorites which of course means members spend more. The last thing I think that a contest is about is so that members and hosts can have a truly challenging and interesting event. It is about promoting the site and bringing existing members and their favorites closer together. How do I know this? Simple, it happens every time.
I should also add that I checked out some of the "fresh faces" in recent contests, and was not very impressed with their pics or what I saw in video, not just in terms of how they looked but in terms of how interesting it was to talk to them. CC really needs to consider which hosts hold onto members and have a lot of regulars when picking the cover girls. If I had not been a long time member and judged CC by its recent "fresh faces", I might not have stuck around too long.
RE: New faces?
I would be much happier to see fresh new faces for the contest as well. It's time, I think most would agree that the same faces at every contest gets tiresome. Let's have a little spice, introduce us all to some one new. All, of the hosts collectively make this a succesfull business. No matter how much money a select few bring it, CC could never survive without the myriad and variety of its offerings. Let's reward those who are here week after week and not appear at intervals that seem to coincide with contests.
RE: New faces?
Why reward those that have been working hard and make them cover girls? That is a nice sentiment, but makes no sense in this context. There are times you reward hard workers in business, but that doesn't mean you do so in every situation.
CC needs to put its best foot forward and that means putting the top hosts (as measured by best pics and ability to have members return over and over to video) as cover girls. Contest time is a marketing campaing to CC. Even as I type this, I still see a cover girl's pic on the upper left of my screen. It makes no sense to go with anything less than the best.
If CC wants to create a feature to reward hard working hosts, that would be nice. Perhaps they could have something like "host of the day" and have her profile appear at the top of the page after a member logs in. But contest time is not the time to reward hard workers. Contest time is for CC to put the very best pictures and the most successful hosts it possibly can on its site and make itself look as good as possible, especially to new members. (I don't think cover girls affect current members much since generally they go to their favorites at contest time as we all know.)
I also am concerned that this "fresh faces" idea will make hosts that have already been cover girls start thinking it isn't worth submitting pics any more and that will mean a decline in quality. In fact, I already know hosts that are thinking this way. On the other hand, even before this "fresh faces" idea, hosts that weren't winning kept submitting pics anyway so choosing many of the same cover girls doesn't prevent the occasional fresh face if warranted.
I would love to see a variety of hosts as cover girls AS LONG AS the quality of the pics and hosts does not go down. But as I indicated before, a number of the recent "fresh faces" have not impressed me much in terms of the quality of the pics and in terms of the quality of their video sessions when I decided to give them a chance. And a lot of times when there have been additional hosts featured besides cover girls (angels, cupids, et cetera), I notice a big difference in picture quality between those chosen as cover girls and those that were not.
Your heart is in the right place, and your head too in terms of wanting to see variety, but in practice, I think it would be a mistake. Only if the "fresh face" had pics at least as good as a past cover girl would I even think about choosing her, and then if I was CC, I would need to consider how effective the fresh face was in having members enter her video before making a change away from someone that was a proven host. The point of cover pics is to promote CC, not to promote individuals, and like I said, all the other hard working hosts benefit in time as newer members start to visit other hosts since yes, variety is nice. But CC first needs to get the newer members to join and stay awhile, and the best way to do that is with the top pics and the top hosts.
CC needs to put its best foot forward and that means putting the top hosts (as measured by best pics and ability to have members return over and over to video) as cover girls. Contest time is a marketing campaing to CC. Even as I type this, I still see a cover girl's pic on the upper left of my screen. It makes no sense to go with anything less than the best.
If CC wants to create a feature to reward hard working hosts, that would be nice. Perhaps they could have something like "host of the day" and have her profile appear at the top of the page after a member logs in. But contest time is not the time to reward hard workers. Contest time is for CC to put the very best pictures and the most successful hosts it possibly can on its site and make itself look as good as possible, especially to new members. (I don't think cover girls affect current members much since generally they go to their favorites at contest time as we all know.)
I also am concerned that this "fresh faces" idea will make hosts that have already been cover girls start thinking it isn't worth submitting pics any more and that will mean a decline in quality. In fact, I already know hosts that are thinking this way. On the other hand, even before this "fresh faces" idea, hosts that weren't winning kept submitting pics anyway so choosing many of the same cover girls doesn't prevent the occasional fresh face if warranted.
I would love to see a variety of hosts as cover girls AS LONG AS the quality of the pics and hosts does not go down. But as I indicated before, a number of the recent "fresh faces" have not impressed me much in terms of the quality of the pics and in terms of the quality of their video sessions when I decided to give them a chance. And a lot of times when there have been additional hosts featured besides cover girls (angels, cupids, et cetera), I notice a big difference in picture quality between those chosen as cover girls and those that were not.
Your heart is in the right place, and your head too in terms of wanting to see variety, but in practice, I think it would be a mistake. Only if the "fresh face" had pics at least as good as a past cover girl would I even think about choosing her, and then if I was CC, I would need to consider how effective the fresh face was in having members enter her video before making a change away from someone that was a proven host. The point of cover pics is to promote CC, not to promote individuals, and like I said, all the other hard working hosts benefit in time as newer members start to visit other hosts since yes, variety is nice. But CC first needs to get the newer members to join and stay awhile, and the best way to do that is with the top pics and the top hosts.
RE: New faces?
How do you know that the "new faces" you saw were simply the best pics submitted for that particular contest. I know of at least two hosts who had been cover girls more than once who, for very valid personal reasons, decided not try for the most recent contests. Yes CC needs top quality pics for the cover girls but it does get boring for members (this member anyway) and I think hosts too, if we always see the same faces.
RE: New faces?
Wrong! The best way to "promote" CC is to bring out the new. The same after same after same every contest gets monotonous, is bad marketing and doesn't help to keep the members that come here daily interested. The favorites (read your favorites) will be here nevertheless. And their fans will visit them contest or not. There have been many complaints by members posted in recent past for some "new blood" here and an equal number of posts that "so and so" is only around for the contests. It's time for SOMETHING NEW!
RE: New faces?
I agree with you! Problem is that some (not all) of the cover girls of recent contests have become mostly "contest only" hosts. That's why some new faces should be presented, and of course CC should choose ones that help bring in revenue in the long haul.
RE: New faces?
i understand whom u mean:) but still,she can bring revenue to cc in 2 weeks more,than others doing in 3 mounths:)))
Not correct
damfin you are not 100% right... for instance, last week I had 5 stars and all videos I did were with my regular viewers, except for a couple of times when someone entered my room for a sec and left. after that my rating dropped - for no reason at all. it would be only fair if members were allowed to rate girls after they spend at least 2 mins in video.
RE: Not correct
I think $5 or 5 minutes, whichever came first would be a good policy. Most hosts are over $1,00, so the $5 would come first. But under your two minute idea, a member that is trying to hurt a host with a bad rating could do so for say $1,50 if she was $0.,75/min. On the other hand, 1 minute is fair if the host is expensive at $5 and perhaps stalling or something.
$5 or after 5 minutes, whichever came first, would work well and be fair to all.
$5 or after 5 minutes, whichever came first, would work well and be fair to all.
RE: Not correct
I very rarely take any notice of the stars - maybe less than 2 and I may start to think there may be something in it.
As I'm a member myself I know how petty some of us can be :P
As I'm a member myself I know how petty some of us can be :P
RE: Not correct
I am not trying to say that this rating system is 100% correct, but it still give good average result for members to see how host been rated by other members.
And you, AndreaCherry, you seem to have 4,5 star at this moment, and u are not happy for this result, comon! if host has rating for 5 start, i wont take it seriously, i would think it is creation of regular members manipulation.. but with 4,5 star i think hey, this might be a nice host who really give a good value for credits ;)
I am not a big fan for any kind of rating, im just trying to say that why always see problems in matters that are not so big deal.
And you, AndreaCherry, you seem to have 4,5 star at this moment, and u are not happy for this result, comon! if host has rating for 5 start, i wont take it seriously, i would think it is creation of regular members manipulation.. but with 4,5 star i think hey, this might be a nice host who really give a good value for credits ;)
I am not a big fan for any kind of rating, im just trying to say that why always see problems in matters that are not so big deal.
RE: Not correct
yes i understand that 4.5 probably looks more realistic but i am a perfectionist, so it bugs me a little.
RE: Not correct
For what its worth, you are perfect to me. Though you know that, I tell you that all the time. :)
RE: Not correct
Perhaps the rating system should be weighted. If a member spends $100 his rating should be worth 100 times more points than someone that spends $1 trying to hurt a model.
RE: Not correct
Yes that is totally right, because some models have rich admirers who can afford to spend hundreds.. and they will give 5 star just to make their favorite model happy, so their rating is not objective, it shouldnt have more weight.
Hosts seems to forget that it is average rating that is shown in profile, so if they have lots of happy viewers who give them 5 stars, it cant make big drop if 3 or 4 1 second viewer give them 1 star.. if they are really nice hosts, i bet some of them admirers will happily give those stars back by taking some 1 sec videos to give 5 stars.
Hosts seems to forget that it is average rating that is shown in profile, so if they have lots of happy viewers who give them 5 stars, it cant make big drop if 3 or 4 1 second viewer give them 1 star.. if they are really nice hosts, i bet some of them admirers will happily give those stars back by taking some 1 sec videos to give 5 stars.
RE: Not correct
According to CC it is the most recent 10 members whose ratings are averaged. If a host who is generally rated 5 star is maliciously given a one star rating she immediately drops to 4.5 stars. She then has to have 10 guys in vid to get back to 5 stars. Belive me it can take a while.
Happy Birthday PaloPalo
Happy Birthday!!!!! Wishing all your dreams and wishes come to pass. May it be a great day!!!!
prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
Dear members, special for the ones in europe: conver a $ in pound or euro and see how low are the prices. imagine a girl that live in uk and she is payed in $....like 2$ per min(this price a lot of members tell is kinda big)....or in other countries is the same. i take a look on other sites and see that no where in the virtual world are prices as low as here.dont make from us slaves and stop complaning about prices....u know better that its true. thats why i wanna make a petition for rising the minimum price to 1$ or members from europe to pay in euro....fair enough.agree hosts?
RE: petition to rise the prices NO NO NO
No to minimum price raise. Abolish Minimum prices here. Give each host / studio owner the full freedom to compete in free market.
Go back in marxism if you wanna tell all workers how much to get for the hours work!
Go back in marxism if you wanna tell all workers how much to get for the hours work!
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
You're free to move to another site if you wish, aren't you Dear? Go there, and command as high a price as you wish.
Come back and tell us how it turns out.
Good Luck.
Come back and tell us how it turns out.
Good Luck.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
Imagine a member in the UK, USA, or WHERE EVER. getting a wage cut, or worse getting layed off.....and then imagine him having to sell his house, and move his family into an apartment. No more SUV, no more eating out, no more expensive cologne, and no more sex for 2$ per minute.
This is the part of the economic recovery where prices are reduced in order to attract spending honey.
You might want to think about marketing yourself, before you cut the hand that feeds ya.
This is the part of the economic recovery where prices are reduced in order to attract spending honey.
You might want to think about marketing yourself, before you cut the hand that feeds ya.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
Well, you need to worry about the US economy considering it still drives the world economy. You can say that China is the biggest now but how many members from China come to see you, bet not many... However, if you feel your price is too low feel free to raise it.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
Here is a strategy you may want to consider, before you shoot yourself in the foot :
Try and increase your customer base, by keeping your rate competitive or slightly lower.
Keep your clients happy, with better customer service and they will stay longer, and visit more often.
Try and increase your customer base, by keeping your rate competitive or slightly lower.
Keep your clients happy, with better customer service and they will stay longer, and visit more often.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
Dear "me", I feel for you girl....I'm a waiter and the tips have been suckin lately too. I have to put in extra hours to try and make ends meet. Hell I'm thinkin of another part time job just so I can keep coming to see you girls.
Its not as bad as my friend Jimmy though....his wife caught him on one of these sites, and now they have no internet!! Can you imagine?
Well, keep up the spirits, I hear the global crisis is in recovery.
Bye for now
Its not as bad as my friend Jimmy though....his wife caught him on one of these sites, and now they have no internet!! Can you imagine?
Well, keep up the spirits, I hear the global crisis is in recovery.
Bye for now
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
If CC raised the minimum price, the business would go to other sites where the prices are lower. There are discount clubs, bonus credits and offers at many sites so it is not uncommon to pay less than $1 per minute.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
If you are 'good' and have regular members, then you can raise your price as high as you like and if your regulars put up with it then you will still be busy. However, market forces are at work here and there is a limit that even your regulars wont go beyond! if you are no 'good' then better set a price that means you get some business!!!! Minimum price of $2 would destroy cc and all it stands for - A site set up by members for members!!!! U are free to set your price where u want but dont be surprised if your 'trade' gets less!!!! Good luck!
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
I would guess you are fairly new here, so please dont come here and try to change things that have worked, and are working, so well! If you think you can get more $ by working on another site then go do it! And when you find that you have made a mistake then come back to cc and rejoice that this site exists, the BEST adult network on the internet! Let supply and demand continue to govern what price works for each host and member! Freedom of choice girl!!!!!
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
:)))))))))) wow u sound so mad another uk member:)))).Don`t get so mad, u will still have girls at lower price , things dont change so quikly.:))). People talk(what would be better, what not...) , but in the end they do as they like. Good luck with petition there, Dana
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
Totally agree. I tried other sites in the past but now never bother with them. CC Hosts are free to 'play' with prices just like a company does. This enables you to test the prevailing current market demand and what price it will bear at that moment.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
If you check out the sites with higher per minute prices more carefully you will find that many of them pay hosts a lower percentage than CC and have more severe rules for hosts regarding charge backs and are not so reliable in making their payments as CC. You should also understand that the low priced hosts help keep members on CC. Most of the hosts I have been a regular with have a rate of $2.00 or more but if I have an expensive month and funds are tight I may decide to spend time with a lower priced host. Next month I am back with my regs. I am a member of two other higher priced sites but spend far less money on them than on CC.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
You want european members pay in euro, and uk members pay in pounds? great idea.. lets see how it goes in one site that does this,
US customer pay 1 usd per 1 credit,
European customer pay 1 eur per 1 credit
UK customer pay 1 pound per 1 credit
Host get 35% from every credit that customer use,
and host get paid in dollasr, 1 credit = 1 usd,
great deal for site, right? but what about you, and euro customer?
Do you really wish cc should also do that?
US customer pay 1 usd per 1 credit,
European customer pay 1 eur per 1 credit
UK customer pay 1 pound per 1 credit
Host get 35% from every credit that customer use,
and host get paid in dollasr, 1 credit = 1 usd,
great deal for site, right? but what about you, and euro customer?
Do you really wish cc should also do that?
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
I wonder how feasible it is to weight the rating system based on time actually spent with a host. It would perhaps seem fairer that a better review goes with someone who spends longer in a session.
But I do also wonder how many stay in a session trying to tease out some behaviour from a host only to ultimately be denied. Does that make them happy customers or is it just demonstrating a clever manipulative host?
But I do also wonder how many stay in a session trying to tease out some behaviour from a host only to ultimately be denied. Does that make them happy customers or is it just demonstrating a clever manipulative host?
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
I just dont see a problem on rating.. i honestly dont think
that any member would take a 30sec video just to give bad rating
to host if host havent gave some reason for that with her behaving.
It is just fact, bad rating comes from unpleasant members,
and good rating comes from happy members, and i believe
most members need really good reason for giving bad ratings,
i hardly ever give less than 5 stars if i get treated fair.
that any member would take a 30sec video just to give bad rating
to host if host havent gave some reason for that with her behaving.
It is just fact, bad rating comes from unpleasant members,
and good rating comes from happy members, and i believe
most members need really good reason for giving bad ratings,
i hardly ever give less than 5 stars if i get treated fair.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
oh yes i mistype, i should type "bad rating comes from unhappy members"
but what is your point, are you trying to say that most members take 30sec show just as a joke, to give bad ratings for host?
and you are really sure that hosts dont ask their regular favorite members to take 30sec show and give 5 star? just to make host rating go up. ;-)
but what is your point, are you trying to say that most members take 30sec show just as a joke, to give bad ratings for host?
and you are really sure that hosts dont ask their regular favorite members to take 30sec show and give 5 star? just to make host rating go up. ;-)
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
Well i bet u are a member. Thats why u have no idea what u are talking about. There are a lot of people in this world (real and virtual-doesnt really matter) that enjoy doing something mean to others. They have different reasons for this-jealousy, envy, anger etc...Here on cc in particular-there can be even more reasons for this. Like for instance-one jealous host asks her regular to go to another hosts vid for 1 sec and give her bad rating (there can be again lots of reasons for this-personal relationships, jealousy)-lots of hosts do it. Then, imagine a member who just cant take no as an answer-he asks for something that a host doesnt wanna do, he leaves angry and then comes back under different name just to give her 1 star again and again. Seriously, im on cc for like 4 years, have seen a lot of guys who will gladly do such a thing. Again-for different reasons.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
And this happens often when member first go to text chat, and ask there, will you strip and use toy in video.. and host say, come in video and find out.. right?
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
Yes, yes, raise the prices, and "try" to earn big bucks on just one vid. Many of us will be out of here and you will be seating alone in front of the pc while we visit other girls at other sites offering free vids, discounts, and club bonuses. Leave CC as it is now and all of us will be still here for long time. And I have a solution for you: Go somewhere else if you are not happy with CC. Simple as that.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
Please remember that hosts with Splitcam etc have an opening into several markets during their session - I'm sure members will have noticed the rather obvious signs from time to time!
Your 'host' expenses : One set of lingerie/clothes, one make up session, one internet connection - 'x' amount of sites/members/potential income - go figure .....
Your 'host' expenses : One set of lingerie/clothes, one make up session, one internet connection - 'x' amount of sites/members/potential income - go figure .....
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
dear you , i suggest you to pay video show as member for 3 months. Be a client, not a worker to evaluate the other side of your offer.
To finish, i lets you also think about a normal worker in a normal company in europe, that work 5 days a week 9 hours a day , for lets say 120 euros , = $160 for 9 hours = 17 $ / hour
AND to finish i lets you think also that on these 17$ / hour u need to remove the federal/government taxes for this job (between 15% to 35% following each countries)
SO dear chathost, can you tell us , on a full year , if your average income per hour is more or less than 17$ - around 3$ = 14$ / hour ?
To finish, i lets you also think about a normal worker in a normal company in europe, that work 5 days a week 9 hours a day , for lets say 120 euros , = $160 for 9 hours = 17 $ / hour
AND to finish i lets you think also that on these 17$ / hour u need to remove the federal/government taxes for this job (between 15% to 35% following each countries)
SO dear chathost, can you tell us , on a full year , if your average income per hour is more or less than 17$ - around 3$ = 14$ / hour ?
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
now It looks like a few of your are forgetting that this is NOT a normale job. Do you think that just because we are showing our bodies for money that we will show it at any price. Well I dont know about the rest of you but I will never lower my prices for less than I am worth. If that means less men come into chat so be it. I never have sold my self short and never will.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
well fist of all u cant compare a host with a worker, cause it s not the same...seling sex, seduction etc must be payed better and it is. host are judged bcz of thier job- some izolated themselfs and dotn have friends bcz their work is seen with bad eyes, they cant do this for all their life (most of the guys want fresh, young beatiful girls) and because it s not the same to entretain a man for 1 h in vid and to pack some boxes or i dont know what else.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
Using your calculation of $14 net per hour gives a total net income of around $2,520 every 4 weeks. There are hosts that earn this or more but most make less than this. When you are a worker in a company the company normally provides you with equipment and lights and heats the place where you work. Hosts have to do that out of what they earn.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
Talking to hosts and reading the forum. Most hosts would be delighted to make $2000 per month.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
I have talked with enough hosts about this to qualify as a statistically significant sample. I know some big earners but fewer than than 5 per cent of the hosts I have spoken with average over $2000 per month. You can believe me or not as you wish but I have more evidence to support what I say than those who suggest that most hosts are making thousands each month.
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
they make less ok , but they declare nothing to governement ... u seems forgot this point. When 30%-40% of yoru salary goes to government taxes from salary income, u can tell that sexhost are lucky as they declare : nothing
RE: prices $/pounds petition to rise the prices
I did not forget that most hosts do not declare their income. My basis of comparison was the net earnings (after deductions) of $14.00 per hour against chat hosts undeclared earnings.
Juicy cummers and squirters
I like girls who really cum, either dripping or squirting. A few seem to cum and then creamy stuff oozes out, very nice! But other squirt clear liquid, also nice. Any explanation? I know some girls fake it, but some seem very real.
RE: Juicy cummers and squirters
"I know some girls fake it, but some seem very real. "
yeah, well said seem...but it s not.. maybe 1% of the girls on no matter what site cum for real.
some fake it bad, and u know it s a fake and the others fake it good and it seems very real...
yeah, well said seem...but it s not.. maybe 1% of the girls on no matter what site cum for real.
some fake it bad, and u know it s a fake and the others fake it good and it seems very real...
RE: Juicy cummers and squirters
hey, i dont want to argue, but if u dont squirt it doesnt mean a woman isnt able to..its called female ejaculation..google it :)
RE: Juicy cummers and squirters
wrong :) specialists said it isnt pee, it contains just a smaaaaall amount of pee..as it gets out from..that tiny hole..oh well..i aint gonna chat 'bout this in the forum
Actually that's not true...
Scientifically speaking, that's not exactly true. Back in the 1980's there was a great deal of media interest in the "G spot", which could supposedly cause a woman to orgasm and squirt fluid in an impressive sexual display . At the time, many sexologists were convinced this squirting effect proved that women could ejaculate a high level of cum the same as a man.
Meanwhile, other scientists argued it was merely a release of the female bladder, and the ejaculate was actually urine squirting out under orgasmic contraction and pressure of the muscles. Furthermore, upon examination of the data, biologists likewise noticed that the ejaculate had qualities very similar to urine. For example, in a woman, the alkaline level of "squirt" fluid and urine are one and the same.
A more recent study has put the "squirt" into further debate. Women who claimed to be able to squirt were given a urethral catherization (i.e. they had a tube hooked to their bladder prior to having intercourse or being asked to masturbate and achieve orgasm). What the study ultimately showed is at the moment of orgasm, these women DID expel very large volumes of urine through the catheter -- thus giving credence to the argument that a female ejaculation or "squirt" actually IS composed of a high level of urine (and not small as you stated in your post).
The study also found no evidence of urological problems with the women, thus confirming that the two conditions -- squirting and urinating -- are not always distinguishable in a woman's mind. Furthermore, yet another medical study of 1,300 women found that women described the sensation of female ejaculation as being very similar to a highly pressured urination, again giving credence to the fact that a sudden bladder release -- coupled with a strong vaginal contraction -- plays a very significant role in a woman's ability to "squirt".
Meanwhile, other scientists argued it was merely a release of the female bladder, and the ejaculate was actually urine squirting out under orgasmic contraction and pressure of the muscles. Furthermore, upon examination of the data, biologists likewise noticed that the ejaculate had qualities very similar to urine. For example, in a woman, the alkaline level of "squirt" fluid and urine are one and the same.
A more recent study has put the "squirt" into further debate. Women who claimed to be able to squirt were given a urethral catherization (i.e. they had a tube hooked to their bladder prior to having intercourse or being asked to masturbate and achieve orgasm). What the study ultimately showed is at the moment of orgasm, these women DID expel very large volumes of urine through the catheter -- thus giving credence to the argument that a female ejaculation or "squirt" actually IS composed of a high level of urine (and not small as you stated in your post).
The study also found no evidence of urological problems with the women, thus confirming that the two conditions -- squirting and urinating -- are not always distinguishable in a woman's mind. Furthermore, yet another medical study of 1,300 women found that women described the sensation of female ejaculation as being very similar to a highly pressured urination, again giving credence to the fact that a sudden bladder release -- coupled with a strong vaginal contraction -- plays a very significant role in a woman's ability to "squirt".
RE: Juicy cummers and squirters
you guys need some anatomy and sex lessons, im waiting for you :))
RE: Juicy cummers and squirters
I dont know about you guys but when I squirt I know it is not pee. Feels great and well its clear and has no smell. I smoke right 420 So my pee is very yellow. My squirt is not. Science or not you can see the difference there.
where is the love
do you practice what you speak,,do most of us care about ourself, do you ask yourself where is the love,,, question? do you think there is something wrong with this world when people don't wanna share their love
RE: where is the love
The response to the Haiti tragedy is an excellent example of people loving beyond their own family circle.
RE: where is the love
now your got the picture--yes Haiti is an example, but why does it take a tragedy to bring people together, should be all the time
by popular demand
Hosts, which members would you invite home to meet your mum? (bearing in mind he might be her age)
RE: by popular demand
I cant say only 1, I have a few i like. I love more than 1, but i am sure my mother will say who is best for me. Hopefully they will visit me in my city soon!!!
RE: by popular demand
hey host (women only) I would like to meet your mom,,, I have a few things to tell her
RE: useful post
thats what i like about this forum....you never know what your gonna find here....1 day a good joke...next day you will be sharing your biggest heart break. lol
So Anna, what is on your mind ?
So Anna, what is on your mind ?
RE: useful post
Waste not a day or night in fear, hold close your loves and keep them
near.
TNT
near.
TNT
RE: why you guys doing it?
maybe they got their credit card bill and find they overspend and need to cut back .
RE: why you guys doing it?
Guys in real are all nice to women and then leave them once they finally get them into bed. Why would you be surprised that some will act the same way here and be nice until they finally get to see you naked and then disappear afterwards?
poor guy
A man escapes from prison where he has been for 15 years. He breaks into a house to look for money and guns and finds a young couple in bed.
He orders the guy out of bed and ties him to a chair, while tying the girl to the bed he gets on top of her, kisses her neck, then gets up and goes into the bathroom. While he's in there, the husband tells his wife:
"Listen, this guy's an escaped convict, look at his clothes! He probably spent lots of time in jail and hasn't seen a woman in years. I saw how he kissed your neck." If he wants sex, don't resist, don't complain, do whatever he tells you. Satisfy him no matter how much he nauseates you. This guy is probably very dangerous. If he gets angry, he'll kill us. Be strong, honey. I love you."
To which his wife responds: "He wasn't kissing my neck. He wwas whispering in my ear. He told me he was gay, thought you were cute, and asked me if we had any vaseline. I told him it was in the bathroom. Be strong honey. I love you too!!"
He orders the guy out of bed and ties him to a chair, while tying the girl to the bed he gets on top of her, kisses her neck, then gets up and goes into the bathroom. While he's in there, the husband tells his wife:
"Listen, this guy's an escaped convict, look at his clothes! He probably spent lots of time in jail and hasn't seen a woman in years. I saw how he kissed your neck." If he wants sex, don't resist, don't complain, do whatever he tells you. Satisfy him no matter how much he nauseates you. This guy is probably very dangerous. If he gets angry, he'll kill us. Be strong, honey. I love you."
To which his wife responds: "He wasn't kissing my neck. He wwas whispering in my ear. He told me he was gay, thought you were cute, and asked me if we had any vaseline. I told him it was in the bathroom. Be strong honey. I love you too!!"