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..... and was sex involved ?

To stop the thread becoming too repetitive any hosts who I have had a video with can post about their second best day :P

hmmmmmm

how abt ....

I have no idea

I give up !

How about discussing the saying "If at first you don't succeed try try and try again" :P

thumbs up !

chuck norris jokes maybe?they always get me:)

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what about this phrase that is written on forum frontpage,
"freedom of speech"
what is your opinion, is there freedom of speech in this forum
where moderators choose what posts can be published?

(You MUST read them out loud or it doesnt make as much sense)...
1) Thats not right........ Sum Ting Wong
2) Are you harboring a fugitive................... Hu Yu Hai Ding
3) See me ASAP............. Kum Hia Nao
4) Stupid Man...................... Dum Fuk
5) Small horse... Tai Ni Po Ni
6) Did you go to the beach?... Wai Yu So Tan
7) I bumped in to a coffee table... Ai Bang Mai Fa Kin Ni
8) I think you need a face lift... Chin Tu Fat
9) It's very dark in here... Wao So Dim
10) I thought you were on a diet... Wai Yu Mun Ching
11) This is a tow away zone... No Pah King
12) staying out of sight... Lei Ying Lo
13) He's cleaning his automobile... Wa Shing Ka
14) Your body odor is offensive... Yu Stin Ki Pu
15) Great... Fa Kin Su Pah
For the losers who didnt get it..... ur dumb

Wai Yu So Tan-ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)))))))))))))))

Great one, thx))

1. Thou shall not sneak out when there parents are sleeping (why wait?)

2. Thou shall not do drugs (alochol lasts longer)

3. Thou shall not steal from K-mart (Walmart has a bigger selection)

4. Thou shall not get arrested for vandalism (destructon has a bigger effect)

5. Thou shall not steal from their parents (everyone knows Grandma has more money)

6. Thou shall not get into fights (start them)

7. Thou shall not skip class (take the whole day off)

8. Thou shall not go to strip clubs (Hooters has better food)

9. Thou shall not think about having sex (like Nike says... just do it)

10. Thou shall not help old ladies cross the street (leave them in the middle)

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why the hell do people even get married anymore?

Easy. You need to talk your best friend into seducing and fucking your husband. Once that's taken care of, you can then divulge your filthy little secret to your husband without fear of him judging you too harshly, then he can do the same and you both can live happily after fucking whoever you both want.

You're welcome.

omg!dont fuck nobody pliz:O wtf???if they will say somthing to hubby.then deny all. say that they tryed2 fuck u but u said no.and they mad now.

are you for real?? :)))))))

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Have sex with him and then, if you are lucky, he will tell one of his friends and so on :D

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Yeah but I am mean lol

Are you the same person who posted a couple of weeks ago about whether to have sex with your husband's best friend?

can i be next ? this will humiliate ur husband . if ur husband was a bad man you wouldnt have had sex with his friend . u know it was wrong and you have to find a way of stopping this . start with "losing ur phone " (buy a new sim card ) and avoid these people

Ok now i seriously think that all this is a big (not the best one) joke and ure mocking us all. God bless u, really, if im wrong.

I thought the same thing.

tell your husband and just hope for the best...but looks like you're going to get divorced either way (depending if your husband is up for having an open marriage).
But from what it sounds like you don't deserve him

hmm , u should fuck all his friends to buy their silence !

your secret would be safe :))))

U should consider changing your name into a " not so smart woman"...what if the dude has another 100 friends?Ull end up doing them all...?

i'd fuck the second one too, you dont want ur husband to find out and who knows maybe its even better than the best sex you just had. :-))

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u already made the first mistake by fuckin the first guy.....whatever happens ur gonna hurt ur hubby anyway so i wouldnt fuck the second guy but tell ur husband what has happened already and that u made a mistake and hope he forgives u....u got urself into this shit...u deal with the consequences

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<<what should i do?>>

Get some morals! Sorry to be blunt, just an honest response.

Morals on CC?

lol

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Easy! Just tell your husband everything, but let him know that no more freebies and that you will charge every other friend of his. And Congrats, you just found yourself your new career :-P

We cant help u cause its your responsible! You have deal with your husband but do not involved with us because what if we gave u mistake or bad advice to you? I'm sure that u would BLAME on us!!!!

I THINK SO.

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Oh please, ppl, why u take this crap so serious? She(or he) is proly having a good laugh now reading all these posts)) If not-well ill lose faith in ppl))))))

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You should fuck the other friend too, you don't wanna take any chances. For security purposes only, you should fuck all of his other friends, even the female friends if any. While being at it, start a progressive cuckold training with your husband. Once you're don with all of his friends, he will WANT you to fuck them, so you can start the circle all over again.
The moral: If you need diversity, look for it somewhere far from home.

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Lets go we all have fun in dugeon category..lol

I said "progressive cuckold training" - the training was progressive, yanno, really small baby steps cause hubby is a newbie lol. But here:
Aggressive cuckold - One who was forced into it and accepted his wife fucking his friends, but sometimes breaks loose and hits her with the frying pan he just used for cooking dinner while she was "busy".
Passive cuckold - one who doesn't give a flying fuck. She was a pain in the ass between the sheets anyway. Screw her, he will stay at home, do house chores and let her work (his friends) for money. AND pay him for his maid and cook services.
Passive-aggressive cuckold. One that doesn't mind her fucking all of his friends, because he beats the b-jesus out of her every time she comes home, but only after cleaning her up.

Eh? How's that?

actually i think this is where HE wanted to get , maybe some sort of fantasy fulfilled on the forum :) dont u find his name too obvious , if you were a woman writing all this would you name yourself like that ? yes , if you would do your be to convince :))

What a fucked up slag you are.My sincere condolences to your hubby,now bend over !

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Be married, have a wedding engagment means somethign for you ? or it seems not ... why people are married and continue to fuck anybody else , as it seems u even dont think refuse to fuck with the friend of friend....
strange

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I have been fucking my best friend's wives for years now....... my wife's a HO for cheating on me FN "byotch"

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men who aren't constantly on the prowl for new pussy aren't worth any pussy at all.
you're very wise megan fox.

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never mind his flirting with other women, you should dump his ass for being so possessive that he actually forbade you to speak to any other guy ... seriously, that's fucked up.

There is nothing, absolutely nothing wrong with an innocent flirting, ESPECIAALY as u said-in the beginning! Come on!

so he didnt cheat . he was just being friendly . do you ever say hi to another guy

nothing bad with flirting ))) man need it time to time

well aren t we supposed to be super inlove and not have time to think of anyone else in the begining of the relationship. he was as inlove with me back then as he is now and he blames me for emailing this woman because i treated him bad. but if i treated him so bad shouldn t he just leave me and go somewhere else? he said in a email her picture is all he s keeping him going and i cannot take it out of my head whatever i d do. i only seen a short list of emails he admited and showed me once i saw the first one ,were like 4-5 in total and he says he never spoke with her ever since and they were only friends. but how would i know he hasn t? maybe covered his sorry ass and deleted them . i think i have a problem trusting men but when i say i love someone and mean it i wouldn t be doing what im demanding the other person not to do. He s so jealouse that every male family friend work coleague etc etc i have im having an affair with . neither of us would have time for an affair to be real but maybe he knows what he s up to and is affraid im doing the same?
my head is going round in cercles as this man has done everything to keep me and yet again why would he risk it like that???

ive changed my mind . you would be better off finding a man who loves you and isint so insecure as this jealous guy .
dating can be fishing sometimes you may need to cast a wider net .
or the other saying you have to kiss a few frogs to find your prince
best of luck with your decision !

Seriously, are u 13 yo? Or maybe u watrch too many romantic movies where couples are crazy, crazy in love and dont say even HI to anyone of the opposite sex but their beloved ones? Its a real life honey, its not like in the movies, ure saying he loves u and u still dont wanna forgive (im not even sure that forgive is the right word lol, as there is nothing to forgive) him his lil mistake? Its so hard to find love and u just throw it away so easily cuz he isnt perfect? Well none is, and trust me, u will never find a man who will not look at other girls when u dont see it, but then again, there is nothing wrong with it, as long as he doesnt cheat. Get real, and grow up, really.

Amen! My eyes are always working 24/7. I just don't gawk and drool or make it obvious! A beautiful women deserves to be admired. lol

Dump him. Some people here think that looking is flirting. Flirting is flirting. If you really love someone, flirting with someone else won't even enter your mind. When I was with my last girlfriend (8 years) I had no desire to go after another woman. She was all I wanted. And I don't care what anyone says....If you are flirting....you are looking for something else...maybe just a little....but you are looking. And for someone to tell you to grow up is way off. A person who flirts around is the immature person not the other way around. OMG.

Sorry but to me flirting is totally different from looking. Even though I am in a relationship with someone i love very much I still sometimes flirt verbally with girls or women who do not attract me in any way sexually - and i am sure the feeling is mutual. One of the good things about flirting with female friends is that we both know it is not serious and will never go further. You seem to feel that once you fall in love you should sever all contact with friends of the opposite sex.

You work here, yes? Isn't this "paid" flirting and more (for some)?

once flirting takes place, by either side...trust may vanish, doubts may be present. Trust and truth are the base of any committed relationship, once they are gone.. relationship is over.. you were wise to leave...

well, he said it was just flirting, i dont know...if u go into a 121 witha chathost and then he played hide the cucumber. I consider it more than flirting.

Dump him.
A decent man knows not to flirt with others when in a relationship.
If it happens once it will probably happen again.

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I guess it depends on what you define as flirting. In my opinion most people (men and women) flirt all the time and as long as it stays as flirting it is harmless. I do not like his attitude to her, requiring that she has no contact with any other male. To me they both seem so jealous and immature I can't see any hope for their relationship.

i see your point but when i first visit a host it can be a chance to take and in my expierence higher price doesnt guarentee a better time . what i dislike most is a host who after a few visits starts to increase their price each time . i never tell a host in advance im coming .

I do believe quality is better than quantity, however I dont think this rule applies in this case. The hosts are human beings and not machines that will do quality shows all the time for every member that enters her video. Sometimes their show depends on their mood, member, or mutual symphaty between member and host. I did believe that high priced hosts were special and I would see a 5 stars show if I spend $5.00 a min with a host, but I was wrong 90% of the time. Some of the high priced hosts did not performed on par with the lower priced hosts that gave great shows with no stalling. After 5 years on cc I now only visit low priced hosts whose prices are no more than $1.80 per min in 121. Using this rule I am now able to stay longer in video with the host. In case the host chooses not to perform I will not lose so much as compared to a host charging $3.00 per min.

You also have to consider that members decide based on what they can afford. Take cars for example. I love Porsches and think they are good quality cars but i have never been able to afford one. I also like BMW's and have owned three of those (not at the same time). Howver times are a little tougher now and I have a Honda. Still excellent quality but a lower price. A few years ago could afford to regularly spend time with the BMW hosts (charging $1.50 - 2.00 in open vid) and would sometimes visit a Porsche host at a higher price. Now I mainly visit the Honda hosts who charge around $1.00 - bu still generally give me good quality.
There are also the Ferrari hosts. They look gorgeous but are incredibly expensive and with very unreliable quality. You have to have money to throw away to risk spending thime with these. I have done so occasionally but cannot risk that for now.

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Not worth it to try them. If the price is too high then it's too high.

2.30 is ok for 1to 1 but sometime it just depends on how much is in the bank, if true i not usualy take 1to 1 cos the benefit is often not worth the extra cash, especiallly on a long show

$2.30 is not so expensive especially if good show is guaranteed. There are some hosts charging $3.00 - $5.00 per minute and their show is the same as many other girls charging $1.50 - $2.00 per min. As someone said: bad financial times are also forcing most of us to reconsider our spending habits and we have to look for lower prices. I for one that can't spend 100's of $$$ in video and I can't afford several luxuries anymore. But dont let us dictate what you should do. You can stay with your price $2.30 and adjust yourself to fewer members. Or you can lower ur price and see if it gets better. You do what suits you best.

I realized as a long-time-member (8 yeras) that the price is not an indication for the host or time you spend with her. But I realized that a higher prize doesn't mean a "better" host. Best example is Glamour or Little Shy category: Here the prices and the hosts vary. One girl does everything for $1.50 in one2one and another doesn't do anything - only chat for $3.00 in open session.
Now who has a better quality? Everyone will judge it different, depending if he/she is a member or a host, what kind of mood and what he/she is looking for.
The point is how you define "quality". I think hosts and members have different meanings of quality...

Price is an issue for me but up to a point not the main one. So yes , if a $0.80 host gave a rubbish show and a $1.70 host gave a good show I would visit the $1.70 host every time. At $5 I would just wank over her pics :P

However to use your shoes analogy. I may be able to buy several cheap pairs for the price of the expensive pair and so they may last me longer. But as we aren't talking about shoes but real people there are plenty of cheaper hosts who give as good a show as the more expensive hosts.

Host "L" from below. Are my posts getting any better ? :P

This all very subjective, but I have had videos with many hundreds of different hosts over the years, and the one that has the best English skills, the sharpest wit, possibly the most intelligence, certainly the most sensual in her play and with the kindest heart, was and remains a $0.50c host. I won't presume to explain on her behalf why she chooses this rate, but it is always foolhardy to make generalisations based on equating price with quality.

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At the risk of stating the obvious, as you are a host you presumably are not visiting other hosts for a show, and presumably have little idea therefore what they do and do not do, or at what price. At best you can only be speaking from what you learn from a small circle of co-hosts and how they operate, at worst you are speaking from your own baseless conjecture. Reality is there are plenty of hosts who give hot shows at that level of price.

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If I thought I could earn 0.25c a minute here for taking my clothes off I'd sign up as a host today :D

The real reality is that these days thjere are very few hosts who give hot shows for $0.50 or $0.60. There are still quite a lot who do for $1.00 or less.

I think that a host should not consider her price here as any kind of reflection of her own self-worth. Sure, if you let it, it may sting the pride to lower your price when the situation suggests that you should, but I think a shrewd business woman will do what it takes to optimize both the number of paying visitors she gets and how much they actually spend.
And I wouldn't equate prices here with the prices some pay for status symbols and such. Unless he's trying to impress a host with the amount of money he pays on her, I don't see the point. But then, doing that just seems more pitiful than impressive.
Good luck to you!

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Your "perceived" quality.......alot of hosts believe they are worth more than they really are. Maybe its pride, who knows....You can believe all you want that "you" are worth more, but i have found more often than not, that higher price doesnt mean a better show. When it comes to cars and maybe clothing, higher price may mean higher quality, but here.....not so much.....
So, go ahead and believe that your high price is justified because you are worth it......and alot of us will visit those awesome hosts that charge much less :)

"Someone" nailed it with his car analogy that having a Porsche would be great, but these days (given the economy) most guys can afford a Honda. And that’s okay, a Honda is reliable – it has 4 wheels and a motor too -- so it will still get you around town. So why pay for a $5 luxury Porsche host if taking a ride with $1 host will get you where you wanted to go? I think to the average guest that really is their shopping mindset, pure and simple.

Also, I know this may sound silly to some, but this is where having a great PERSONALITY comes into play...at least to me. I’d rather chat with someone who is pretty & fun versus the hottest looking poster model that is snotty & stuck up. How is that ever a turn on? Or it’s great if the host has sexy outfits or some kind of additional fun selling point about herself to catch your interest & spur on the brain. After all, doesn’t half the fun of a hot sexy time come from letting your mind be stimulated too?

So “Chaos Theory” was right too when he said “The point is how you define quality. I think hosts and members have two different meanings."

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hosts who can hook a few money slaves are the luckiest hosts there are:))

Your less tired? How exhausting is it to take your clothes off and play with yourself? lol .... Your not running a marathon by the way.....

When money is not important in your life or if you have a lot of it then the quality of the host is, of course, of paramount importance and the most important factor in selecting a host. We have many members who fit that category. That is why the high priced hosts are still here. However, for many members money is in short supply. So when they look for a host they look for the best quality for the price...otherwise known as value. In addition price alone is not a measure of quality. I have spoken to and seen lower priced hosts who are incredible women. Beautiful, smart, funny.....and I have seen a few high priced hosts who were not that great.

Let me put this another way...if money shouldn't be the main consideration when selecting a host then why don't you lower your price to the minimum .50 cents a minute. Strike a blow for quality over money.

I think it's about self worth. I do agree that it can be going a little overboard to charge $4 per minute or whatever, but if those hosts can get away with it and make money, I can't really blame them for not lowering their prices. I charge $1.50 in open and $2 in 121, which I guess puts me in the "BMW" category, and that's fine with me. Charging less than that just ends up making me feel a little cheap and somewhat down on myself because I really do believe that I put on a good show from feedback I've gotten. On the other hand, charging more would probably put me on edge and make me feel like viewers would expect nothing short of perfection from me....talk about pressure.

You guys also have to realize that hosts could just as easily use the car metaphor for you viewers. Charging a low price in open sometimes attracts the very unsavory sorts.

The issue of self worth and other reasons why hosts decide what rate they will charge is not the issue here. Quality is important to members but the point is that that a high price does not guarantee quality.

Like every business it comes down to how is your profit margin? If you are making as much money as you hoped to make then your prices are perfect. Lowering them might bring more videos but at less profit. Raising them means less videos but more profit. You need to find the perfect balance for you. That is a factor of your appearance, your personality, the time period you appear, your profile and pictures, the sexiness of your show,etc.

If you are unhappy with your profiits then you need to consider changing things to see if that increases profits. Do one thing at a time..more or better pictures, different time slot, better or sexier show....and of course lowering prices..if you try all these things and..if there is no change in profit then either accept it or move on to some other job.

One final thing...I always wonder why hosts do not send out CC mails to their former video partners. A...Thank you for coming to my video...of Hi Bob...(keep a journal of info on the members)...I enjoyed chatting with you and of course I enjoyed making you happy, etc. Guys are suckers for the personal touch. I only knew a couple of hosts who did this type of thing and they were very successful. Marketing majors in college.

this is a service, not a product you buy like shoes. a restaurant can be 5 stars and the food great, yet you can get shitty service. the two don't go hand in hand.

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Aw, thank you. That was nice of you to say, Host.
Best wishes and kiss to you as well.

LOL and I sure hope she feels the same.
I'm not looking forward to jumping in that ocean! :(

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You just took all the fun out of coming to this fantasy site :-(

"By the way, I am single but madly in love with a host who has the power to drive me nuts long distance. And if one of us doesn't get on a plane by the end of this year, so we can finally meet & kiss in person, I'm gonna jump in the ocean. And THAT'S the truth! :)"

Would your opinion change if you found out she was married ?

Well, thankfully that's not a problem. The host I adore is actually a wonderful girl I was involved with before. It's the age-old romantic tale of the girl you loved and lost, but could never forget because you realized she was "the one." So for the last few months we've been getting really close again – this time around taking our time to get things right. And we both know we’ve found something special because even when we try to walk away, we're always drawn right back to each other. But the most important thing…going back to the topic at hand…is we're always honest with each other.

So the good news -- no, she's not married.
The bad news -- she's not married to me yet !!!

Sites like this would close if we all told the truth. See below :D

Text Chat

INYF : "Hi"
Host "Oh fuck no not you again"
INYF "Will you show me your naked ass in video ?:)"
Host "Yes but only because it is better than talking to you, you pathetic boring bastard"
INYF "OK I will come into video now"
Host "Fuck even $60 a minute isn't worth this :("

The Video
Host: "What is your name ?"
INYF "Just show me your naked ass and stop talking"
etc

End of video

INYF: "Bye"
Host : "Thank fuck you're leaving and it's all over"

Host logs off and goes for a 60 minute shower.

When her bf or husband shows up with her at the airport - will you risk kissing in front of him?

Lots of fish in the ocean...

sorry, man, just had to say it.

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My wife works here too )))

Oh not again:) U dont know what u've just started....:)

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Yes, I am single. The only questions I have are whether MonikaBabe is really single and do I have a chance at marrying her?

Yes bb im so very single and i wanna marry u, i love u, now, will u come to my vid to see me bb?:))))))))))))))))

yes, but only if I can send you lots and lots of money too.

Oh yes bb ure making me so hot=))

I want in on this. Let us both throw cash at you and have a bidding war!

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mmmmmmmmmmmmm , I luv $$$$$!!

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My question for you would be... are you really single? And are you honest in more than the 5% of the things you say? If from some time here I can say 98% of the models lies in 95% of what they say... why should a member be different?
A member goes to your chatroom, takes a videochat, you say how much you like him and how happy you are when he comes to your chatroom or videochat... Then, let's let members say how single they are, and how much they like you (and not only your body).

It's totally irrelevant as far as I'm concerned ... a married guy's money is just the same as a single guy's money is it not?

Yes, I am single. If I had a gf, wife, or significant other, I would prefer to spend the monery on her. Besides, it just wouldn't be worth the hassle trying to keep my my extra curricular activities fom her. I just don't see the point in being with somebody if I am going to come here behind her back. If the relationship fizzled to the point where I felt compelled to do such a thing, then it is time to bail.

Im pretty sure that everyone here is single :)

I come here for entertainment. Its more of a business proposition. I am not looking for a relationship. When I ask my butcher for a pork loin, I don't ask if he is single. Me wanting to see a sexy show from a girl here doesn't have anything to do with whether or not she or I are single. (which I am).
When you think of this site as something other than entertainment things can get a little sticky.
Btw I found out from a guy in produce that my butcher is not single afterall.....lying son of a bitch.

Here's how I see things. Hosts always say they HAVE to lie & say they're single or else guests lose interest & won't private them. They also say guys prefer single girls because then the guys feel they might have a chance with them. So saying you're single & available is part of the fantasy hosts want create online, simply because the lie is good for business. Finally, hosts will say it doesn't matter if the guest is single or not. They're just here to make money & they'll perform for anyone.

Meanwhile...the guests see it the OPPOSITE way. Guests say THEY have to lie because if they admit they're married or have girlfriends, the hosts lose interest in them. Go figure! Guests also complain that hosts aren't as nice to married men in chat & don't put on as good a show. Why? Well, probably because hosts do prefer single guys. Let's face it -- they know horny single men are far more likely to fall for the old "you're not like my other guests, you're special to me" line. That means single guys fall under a quicker romantic spell and that creates better repeat business. So basically married guys lie about being single to get some of that special loving attention they wouldn't get otherwise.

Is "private" a verb now?!

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I'm single <--(hey, isn't this a fantasy site?)

well i am married and i think the first to say this in this chain of posts. I do admit it to hosts and never had a problem, they sometimes say thanks for being honest (and that may bring rewards) My wife does know and gets very angry about me coming here she just thinks its disgusting - but thats her and perhaps why I do
What bugs me is age, however old you are that is the perfect age for them and that is hard to believe especially if you are twice theirs

well true..but wd u like host to tell u "oh my god u cold be my grandpa?" or "hmm, u are a pervers old man" ?
it s betetr for them and for u to get "nice age, i like experimented men"

Yes ok its better but dont think we beleieve you mean it and you really feel sick I hope we are not that stupid

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Guys say they are single for the same reason they say they are in the 20's and handsome and athletic and students and just over a relationship with a beautiful girl...etc.etc... Some feel that a host will give a better show to a man who she considers eligible...I know some hosts diagree with this...but you can picture a host giving a better show to a young guy than to a fat, old, bald man.

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I couldn't see the reason why as host cannot initiate contact except through CC mail and it would become a spam fest and community chat would become worse than ever. When hosts start paying members for videos then profiles would make sense....and they would be just as silly and untruthful as hosts profiles.

So..never!

ya, with Photo & with their last log in time, and if necessary there location too. will be help & fun I think :)

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bad idea!

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Members should have a 'Roll Of Honour' - like the names of fallen soldiers you see at War Memorials :)

We have had a few members who passed on. I am the hosts they saw when they were alive miss them a lot.....or maybe not.

yes as in ebay:P

what use would that serve?

The main criteria for hosts is length and frequency of videos. If a guy is handsome, funny, pleasant, a gentleman, sexy, etc but also spends time in free text chat I can guarantee you that member would be a 1 star wonder.

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The entire world is facing tough economic times. Its bad all over. I'm sure its tougher these days for hosts to make money because guys are watching their credit cards closely. But is money all that matters to a host? You'd rate us all simply based on what we spend? You don't care if we've been nice to you or treated you better than other guests who can be overly aggressive or rude?

What if a guest is simply not rich, but still wants to see his favorite host? It seems to me that a guy who spends what he can, when he can (and stays loyal) versus a guest who spends a lot and then runs off to be with other hosts is the better customer. The guy who spends slow and steady is also being the better friend to you. If I rate a host, I base it on several things. So it just seems to me that if hosts could rate members it should also be based on several things and not just money alone.

staying loyal by not seeing other hosts? being the better friend? .....are you being serious?

Some members become good friends with hosts away from CC. They stay loyal to help them out. Not everyone hops from host to host to see as many girls as possible. What he said makes sense to me.

i see. so as a sign of their good friendship away from cc, these members treat their special lady friends as charity cases by occasionally going to their video chat to help them out here. i don't know, maybe it's just me, but doesn't such behavior seems maybe just a tad condescending on the member's part, harleyrider77?
and the whole loyalty thing has me puzzled. what does that mean exactly? why can't a guy make friends with more than one host here and spread his help around? does his special host friend demand that he make no other friends here, or is that some kind of limitation he puts upon himself?
please, help me to understand.

to understand you need to have an open mind,listen & see both sides of the coin.there's more but try these at first.hope this helps.

Why is it condescending for a member who's become friends with a host to visit her and help her earn money? That's what she's struggling to do and its only natural that a friend would want to help a friend. As for loyalty, I never said a member couldn't have more than one host as a friend. That's up to him. But many guys do settle into having a favorite host they want to see or spend money on, so it is by personal choice. As I said before not every member here feels a burning need to unzip his pants and show his dick to as many girls as possible.

it just seems like it would be the more decent thing to do if you were to come here with nothing but an honest want to pay your good friend to provide you with the same service that she provides to her other paying customers without thinking yourself exceptional or that you're here just to do her a favor. i mean, if you aren't here to pay her for what she typically does for the average member, then what exactly are you paying her for, and what exactly is she supposed to think about it?
put yourself in her shoes. imagine if she knew you were in need of money and she came down to your place of business and threw money at you without expecting you to do for her what you usually get paid to do. that kind of lame pretense - that she's there to give you honest business just because she's at your work - that wouldn't offend you and make you feel like some shitty charity case?
that's not really how friends help each other, is it?

I just thought I'd add my two cents. Speaking as a writer, I think the problem was your choice of words, Curious. I think the words "condescending" and "charity case" really don't fit here.

There's a host at CC I totally adore. I'd marry her in a heart beat. She works online because good jobs are hard to come by in her country. She also works to help her family. I know that a big dream of hers is to have her own business one day, since she doesn't want to be a cam girl forever. So, since you brought it up, let's take this out of the cam world and use your analogy of a business...

Imagine my host saves enough money to open a flower shop. If I buy flowers at her store, am I being condescending and making her a charity case...OR...am I simply being a nice guy who is trying to help her a bit? Since she's someone I care about, shouldn't I want to swing by her shop to help her (and her business) succeed? That seems pretty basic to me.

Look, let me be blunt -- I hate it when a host plays a guest for a sucker and abuses his credit card. Heaven knows that happens enough online. At the same time, I also don't see any harm in a guy stopping by...from time to time...to pay for a nice chat to help out a host that he's actually become good friends with (or possibly more).

After all, showing someone you care and want to help is what true love and friendship is about…no?

If a member who considers himself a real friend to a host chooses to visit her for a paid video session only after it's casually been mentioned that she's hurting for money, then yes, I can see how that might have the possibility of causing resentment in the host. Unless, of course, it was the host's intention to lure him to a paid video session by mentioning her financial trouble in the first place. If that's the case, then I think that member would be wise not to consider that host much a real friend at all.

And your flower shop analogy doesn't really apply here. What's sold here isn't something so distinctly and cleanly commodifiable as flowers. In fact, what's sold here to some is something very much resembling friendship, but which necessarily can't truly be friendship for the simple fact that it's bought. Why would a real friend ever want to muddy a real friendship by going through the motions of a fake friendship here? It just doesn't make sense.

I am very, very happy with this job. Most members are nice and respect me. I made many cool friends that are help me always when I need. Sometimes i get more than what i need and i see it as a blessing. I dont know if what i feel is real friendship for some members, but i cannot tell them i am not their friend. I dont want to hurt thier heart but I cannot feel friendship if i did not met them in real and probably never met them. I dont ask for money and i am not a money sucking machine i only try to be nice and talk and exchange ideas and ask me what i need and i accept when they offer. I can tell you i earn very good money here. There are other jobs for me in my country, but i like this job becuase is a sweet job. in my country to live good i need $1200 for month and i sometimes make $2000 and members help me with bills and other things. I must say truth, friends here help me more than friends in real life, but i honest say i dont know if i can ever say friend or meet someoene i know wanted to see me my body first when he saw me.

I disagree with your assertions. The others are right that friends help friends. I think the flower shop comparison is spot on. Are you telling me you've never had a friend or acquaintance whose business you frequented because you thought it would help them or used their services as a friendly gesture? I see this as akin to people using their personal connections to help family or friends get into a company or land a better paying job. Hence the line "it's not what you know, but who you know." It's the same principle: friends helping friends by throwing them a bone. You're logic also seems confusing. First you say the services a host sells are not a commodity like flowers because it is friendship, but then you say it's not friendship because money is changing hands which would make it a commodity. So which statement are you standing behind?

Read again what I said. I didn't say that the services sold here are not a commodity, I said that what is sold here is something not at all as simple as bunches of flowers. If you want an analogy that makes sense, Imagine your friend is an escort. Would you still patronize your friend, pay her for her services, just to help her out then?

And of course I'm not saying that friends don't help friends. But honestly, when it comes to helping friends financially, do you not take their pride and their ego and their feelings into account before you offer your help? Don't you try to help in a way that's least likely to incur any kind of resentment? Especially here, I can easily imagine hard feelings arising from suspicions that such a favor is done only for self-serving reasons, that such a favor is done only with an eye to making a host feel obligated to repay the favor in some way later on.

I'm confused by your arguments. Are you saying hosts and guests cannot really be friends because money has exchanged hands? Are you saying all friendships between hosts and guests are fake? That seems to be a sweeping generalization. If that's not your viewpoint please explain how you think a host and guest can be friends both at CC and off site and how that relationship should operate. Thank you.

Call it sweeping if you want, but yes, I very highly doubt that a real, honest friendship can exist between a host and a paying client here. But you know, maybe that's just me. Maybe I just happen to choose to be more, I don't know, rigid than others in how I go about defining what it is I consider a friend. Maybe that's a fault in me and maybe I'm really missing out. If having a cheery and warm host/viewer relationship with one of the very fine women at this site is something that another guy is comfortable considering a real friendship then that's super. And who knows, maybe the host he considers a real friend can look past the fact that he's paying for her time and attention and consider him a real friend too ... that would be awesome.

As to your question about making friends with a host, I'm not sure why you would necessarily consider making friends with a host away from CamContacts any different a situation than making friends with anyone else. All I can suggest is that you try your best to have and show genuine interest in her, make her smile, make her laugh, be unique and memorable and someone she deems a pleasure to know. If you and she hit it off, then all that should be pretty easy, right? If you need more detailed instruction, Dale Carnegie wrote an entire book on the subject. It's pretty well-known, I'm sure you can easily find it at your local library. Good luck.

I would question whether something that is exclusively based on a member spending time with a host in paid video can be considered a true friendship. If a host has enough interest in a member to consider him a friend she should be willing to sometimes chat with him for nothing. Both host and member have to be careful not to take advantage of the other. The important thing is to think about your own behaviour not to make demainds on the other. A member friend should never ask the host to send cam for free and the host should not ask the member friend to come to video. I accept that for the member to only go to video with the host "to help her out" could be patronising but for him to sometimes go to video because he is willing to pay to see his friend is simply accepting that this is her job and he cannot expect her to work for him for free. A host friend might also sometimes offer to let the member friend see her for free but she might not be dressed (or undressed) as she would if she were in a paid video session. I realise (and member friends should understand) that for hosts in studios it may be especially difficult for them to ever send free video.

Congrats on a solid post. I thought you balanced things out really well, especially pointing out how BOTH the host & the guest need to respect each other. I agree that paying to see a host (as a friend) is okay, but that door has to swing both ways. A host should also be willing to toss her cam to a friend TOO. Not for a free sex show, but simply so two friends can chat for a bit. After all, that's what REAL friends do online...right? And that is the one thing I will call bullshit on. If a host says "we're friends, but you can only see me if you pay" THAT'S when you know the friendship is fake and its ONLY about money & it's time to move on. Finally, just few points about some things "John" said...

1) As I said, I think guests & hosts can be friends, but like most things in life it depends on the people involved. I know a host... I consider her a friend... but maybe I'm kidding myself & I'm just another guest & occasional paycheck to her. We've known each other for 2 years. We keep coming back to each other -- through good times & bad -- so the attraction feels real. And we stay in touch off site to some degree. And because of that, I keep hoping it is a real friendship. When it comes to someone you care about, sometimes hope is all you can ask for.

2) I also disagree with one of John's post where he implied a member would only help a host for self-serving reasons or to make her feel obligated. That seems silly because then you've turned an act of kindness into an arm-twisting mob deal. Not to mention you're presuming a member's intentions without knowing the situation (which would be different in each case anyway). John, I understand you see this topic from a different perspective, but in this instance it just seems that you're ruining a spirit of friendship by tacking on ulterior motives that aren't there. Maybe I'm an optimist, but I still like to believe that people do good things for good reasons.

3) Speaking for myself, if I choose to help a friend it's because I WANT to help, not because I'm looking for favors in return. And I do try to keep their feelings in mind. I don't want them to feel bad or like a pity case. But I also know from experience that people in trouble often feel shy or awkward about asking for help, even when they need it the most. So again, I see it as a door that swings both ways. You want to respect the other person, but you also want to tell them...or show them...that they can turn to you BECAUSE you're their friend. My college roommate once said something I've never forgotten: "A real friend is someone who is there when you need them, and not just when it's convenient for them."

I think some of you might be thinking you're friends when it's really a business relationship. I have a few friends who did this kind of work at a different site years back, and the ones who are really friends and still are were ones I didn't talk with them at their job, I talk with them on facebook, IM, Skype etc..., the usual way friends communicate.

>> "If you aren't here to pay her for what she typically does for the average member, then what exactly are you paying her for?"

If Freelance pays his Host-Friend-GF (whatever she is) to spend time in one2one chat, then she is doing what she typically does for the average member. She's appearing on cam and chatting. What more do you expect her to do as a host? Whether Freelance pays her to sit there and merely chat or to actually strip and put on a show is his business since he's the one paying for her time. But your statement is ultimately invalid because she is performing the same service for him that she does for any other member here.

Your statement would only be true if the host refuses to strip for Freelance (because they have a relationship) versus a willingness to strip and put on a show for anyone else (where no such bond exists). If that were the case, then you could argue the host is performing a service for one, but not another. But there's been no mention of any such thing occurring.

The rude guests never stay long in video. Of course other things can be important too, some guys very funny in video and really can make your day. ))

Hon,being handsome,funny and smart means quite little on a website like this.Yes,there'll always be witty ones and fun guys,but let's face it,most are men who don't shoot and score

Aiata...I agree... neither the members nor the hosts are what you would call the best the human race has to offer in a variety of ways....few of us will be telling our grandchildren about our time on CC.

Boy that post went on a wild ride.

As the original poster I was just saying if the hosts could rate members they would get an quick idea what kind of member they are dealing with. They would able to spot jerks quickly, not waste too much time on them and could see right away a good member who other hosts felt treated them well.

youth is wasted on the young

Answer to the three questions:
Difficult to remember
Not sure where
Someone is pushing this wheelchair awefully fast

An older friend of mine says Facebook was the worst thing he ever did. He looked up some of his old gfs from 30 years ago and they look awful. So does he but I don't have the heart to tell him.

Toyota condoms: unintended pregnancy

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Reminds me a little joke....
What the common point between an old tire, and 365 used condomn.?



It was a good year

How about the good old faithful MacShack: 'I'm loving it!'
Rennies: What a feeling!
and the actual very first slogan used by Electrolux /Swedish company/ in their vacuum cleaner campaign: Nothing sucks like Electrolux!

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The CamContacts Condom
...created by its members
...run by its members
...for its members

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I always wear a condom when I am on CC. You can never be too careful.

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I work next to a hairy sweaty romanian guy... so no, not too much sex in the office dreaming from me.

Rofl!!!!!

u mean u will b masturbate there? or sex with a guy?

ur working office in building "towers" or at home office? :P :)

Is this the first time that this has been done on CC?

not first live sex show . couples category ;)

when u have sex in a taxi, let me know, me in

You're making XXX porn now? Times are hard? :)

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I work alone ... sex in the office is easy anytime .. though sometimes makes my voice funny on the phone

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Nice and great to see something different on this site- I have had enough of ratings and this host did this or that!

try cc mail him .

well, if her screenname was still active, i would, but it's not :( (hoping hoping she has new name here)

HIS SCREENNAME

it's obvious you really don't understand TS's do you?

he sure doesnt appreciate like we do :-))

Check milky...smt may be her/him i dont know but try..good luck

no its not milky, someone else I already checked. thanks tho

has used milky's account in the chatroom, must be a friend

i dont know abt your sistem... but i agree this sistem of rating we have now isnt the best. I wrote CC a while ago regarding this matter, and i hope they will come soon with a better solution.

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Not all viwers can afford 20 mins or more video, plus a lot of guys come just for a quick hello if they cant stay long, and cuz a member just wanna say hello, a host will get 1 star?)) Doesnt seem right to me. I dont care abt ratings anyway, just saying that ur system is far from perfection too.

The best solution wud be to forbid guys that stay less than lets say 5 mins to rate. No need to invent a wheel)

I'm with Monica on this one. The biggest flaw in the current system is that a viewer can rate a host after one second in private. I think five minutes is reasonable.

There's another flaw that has to do with the minimum number of reviews a host should have before a rating appears. It seems to me new hosts get an unfair advantage when their rating appears as "5," when in fact (perhaps) this is based on a smaller number of reviews than other, more established hosts. I'm not sure how it works though, so I'm not in a position to suggest any improvements.

Now thats a sensible idea as you would expect from MonikaBabe

I agree 5 mins before being allowed to rate makes sense and could stop vengance voting if true the only benefit from rating is how high you are in list - but this only affects infrequent?
/casual memebers regular memebers make their own decisions not base just on who is top of list

lol, this whole idea came because hosts seems to dislike 2 minute
viewers and even block them so they cant come back again...
and now you say that this time based rating is wrong because then
guys cant just come and say hi for 2 minutes!! so now it suddenly
is ok just to come in for 2 minutes?

And if you read all what i wrote, i mean that if same viewer come back
to say hi again, it result as 4 star rating.. and with less than 2 minute
visit no rating at all so it dont affect on average rating.
Again you seem to think that only 5 star is good rating, but we viewers
are not that simple minded, we know that 4 star is already good average,
and with system we have now, 5 star most likely is manipulated result.
But with time based rating, over 4 star average would really mean something real.

I didnt say 2 mins show, i said when a regular has just 2 mins and he wanna see me and just say hi, how r u doing bla bla ill be back when i have more time ciao sweety. Then again there are some NEW guys who saw my pic, liked me and jumped in to see if i look the same in live vid like on pix, but have just like 5 mins, and they are going to come back another time cuz now they have to go to work, lunch with friends or whatever. Do u think its fair if i get 1-2 stars for a quick acquaintance? The guy liked me lol but doesnt have time for now and have to run somewhere, and he will come back later, but i still get 2 stars cuz he doesnt have time lol? Nice)

Lol and where did u see in my post that i consider only 5 stars a good rating? Im happy as long as i have not less than 4 and even when i had 3.5 one time i still had good traffic, this is why i dont really care abt ratings (i repeat it AGAIN esp for u). Before making fun of someones post read it carefully. My post is far more sane than urs;)

The Star rating without Feedback is pointless. The Star can mean so many things. It is so subject to the whims and prejudices of the member. Maybe the member is in a bad mood, and nothing the host does can please him. Maybe the member is a trouble maker, and his purpose is just to give trouble for the host. Or the opposite. Maybe the host is his favorite, and no matter how bad her show may be, he always gives 5 stars, not really reflecting the quality of the show.

Having feedback also would allow for at least a measure of understanding why the host was rated as she was, and letting those feedbacks be viewable by other members can give a more accurate picture of what to expect.

other problems with the star ratings...
(a) it doesn't matter how long a show lasts, a viewer can rate, even if he was in for 1 sec or for 1 hour. Obviously 1 sec can't give anyone an accurate picture.

(b) Ratings can be given as often as a member desires, and so can be given a false impression... e.g., a member can enter, exit, rate, enter exit rate.. for ever. Some sites limit how many times a member can rate a host.

(c) and this, too, I think is possible -- if a member exits video and rates the host, it goes then to the "Amount spent" page. By back paging, a member can vote multiple times. This for sure should be restricted.

some sites break down the rating into categories, (Appearance, Video Quality, Quality of Show, Will you return... etc.) this gives a much more rounded idea of what to expect.

I agree with much of what you say but your comments regarding mutiple voting are not correct. No matter how many times a member visits a host and votes for her only one rating per day will count.

well that's good to know then

Your idea is excellent. Five minutes goes by flyng, but its enough time for the host to start performing or enough time for the member to know he chose a great host or a stall queen.

can i invent a dream with you Monikababe ............... yummy

I dont mind, as long as its just a dream lol))))))))

bad sistem.cc wont do it4 sure.. i think all guys should rate how they want but only after 10minuts of video.there must be no option to rate after1 second or so..and what about our fans who can only comer for 5 minute a day and not have money more?hmm

Casablancka I think the fairest way is for all hosts to give me a free 2 hour video and then I can rate them on the INYF naughty host scale, the INYF cute face scale and the INYF nice round bottom scale.

I think that would make everyone happy.

Oh by the way I can fit you in 2.00 - 4.00 on Saturday :P

dearest NotMyFriend you will get your 2 hours video only after you marry me, during our noheymoon in maldives:))

My dearest Casablancka. I'd marry you and take you to the maldives on honeymoon even without the promise of a 2 hour video :P

ohh honey! thank u,u r so kind to me !!!:O:PPP;))

Perhaps a weighted system would work - a combination of the amount of time spent in video and the rating of the guest. The more time spent, the higher weighting given to the rating.

Yes that might work.

NO, I dont think the weighting principle (more time in video = greater vote value) is a good idea. The worse hosts will have same rating as the good hosts. I will not stay longer than 5 minutes with a host that promised me to strip and she did not start performing by the 4th minute. Then I can't give her any rating since i had to stay longer so my vote will count. The negative votes will have no effect on a host that have 2 or 3 money slaves coming in her 121 session for 2 or 3 hrs everyday.

completely agree.

Yeah I did think about it after I made my post and you're right. Again it would push the ratings up.

The problem with your system is that it would appear very difficut for a host to be much below 4 stars. The other problem with having a minimum time for being able to vote, is that the unhappy viewer is likely to leave very quickly. So, again. this would skew the results.

Having said that I don't really use the ratings system to decide on whether or not to see a host (1 or 2 stars might make me think if she was also very expensive).

I either give 5 stars or 1 star (very occasionally) or if I've just popped in on someone else's show to see if the host is naked and I find out she is not I leave and don't rate.

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Everytime I read one of ur posts I am glad U ve never visited me... :D

Let me guess. It was the last line that did it wasn't it :P

Indeed:)
I like the rest :)

Unless I missed it, none of you take note of the fact that the rating is based on just the last 10 votes. I also believe that as long as the votes are on different days, CC time, one viewer can account for two of the 10 votes. This is part of the problem.

Ratings should be based on a larger sample size, say 20 to 25 votes, and each viewer should only be able to account for one of those 20 or 25 votes. Further, it would be best if CC kept track of members with multiple accounts so that each member could only count for one of those votes instead of 5 or 10 if he had that many accounts.

In terms of the amount of time in video before being allowed to vote, I think 5 minutes or $5, whichever comes first, would be the best way to handle things. This deals with the issue that hosts have different prices. Anything else gets too complicated.

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And now for all who think i was really serious about chancing the system, lets point it out what
i was after with my post.
My point is that this system we have is almost fair enough in the way it is, only annoying thing
is that some hosts all the time cry about members who come in for 2 seconds just to give 1 star,
and still same time they brake the rules by asking "please bb i need lift up my ratings can you
come in video for 2 minutes and give me 5 star" and this is the biggest problem here, this make
false rating results so we cant trust any 5 star average rating could be reliable.
Thats why i wanted to see how hosts react on my idea to make rating automatic so nobody could
play with results.

Here are some facts about how rating works here now, this is said by CC:

-Only the last 10 votes count

-If a Viewer experienced problems (no video - Chathost configured the WebCam Software incorrectly),
or was ignored by the Chathost, she will be awarded a rating of 1 star for that session.

-Only the last vote by a given Viewer counts for each day

-Please don't ask lots of Viewers for short 1 minute video chat sessions
in an attempt to increase your Viewer Ratings. This is not allowed and could have the opposite effect,
lowering your Viewer Ratings.

That last point... lots of one-min viewers could mean lower ratings... how is that? Even if they rated five stars? This sounds like some rather arbitrary interference by CC.

I'm not disagreeing necessarily, but I don't see how that would be done without outside interference. Otherwise it's a simple calculation of the average. Right?

how many members actually see a host based on star rating?

ive been a member here for a little over a year and i can honestly say that ive never seen a host based on there star rating.in fact when i come here looking around i start at the bottom of the online lists and work my way up.i look at a hosts pictures and then depending on how much i have to spend i look at price.oh also i prefer high speed connection and if all of that is good i go visit said host.there are some very attractive,sexy hosts here with low ratings(dont know why). also when i rate a host,i use a very simple method.if i leave a hosts room happier then when i entered it.said host gets a 5 and ive always left happier.now thats just my system.i do not,i repeat do not, suggest this be a new ratings system.

I definitely consider ratings. In my experience, anything below 4,5 stars is risky. Normally 4 out of 5 would be a good rating, but the ratings are way too high in my view since guys usually are pretty generous.

It is hard not to get 5 stars from a viewer. Just look at ImNotYourFriend's post. I rate pretty much the same way. Usually 5 and occasionally 1. Rarely will I give a 2, 3 or 4 even though many hosts that I and others give 5 to really should get 3 or 4 stars. And if most guys rate this way, it would help explain why so many hosts are 4,5 and 5 stars. Plus, regulars almost always rate 5 stars, but to have regulars, you must be a doing something right in the first place.

All this means that it is pretty hard to get below 4,5 stars. You really need to have done a bad job in a couple of sessions. The occasional guy who is trying to hurt a host's rating with 1 stars usually cannot succeed in getting her below 4,5. It always seems to be the popular, hosts who have 4,5 and 5 stars that have these "enemies" but they never end up below 4,5 stars.

And my focus on the 4,5 and 5 star host theory has proven to be true in my experience with 4 star hosts. It is hit or miss with them so they better have a good price and great pics. And if below 4 stars, the chances of my visiting a host are very low.

I am not too sure rating should depend directly on time spent, else girls in Instant Action or with higher $ rate could be penalised in an unjustified way. But perhaps a rating possibility should be givien to the guest only after a certain time in chat, let's say the 5 or 10 minutes or a time that could be depending on the chathost's category.

Why do we need the rating system anyway.Why don't we just do away with it and at the end of video have a message come up where the host can leave comments if they so wish.Then all we need to dis read the reviews

No way, I just saw her play at the kia classic and the kraft nabisco........is it the new marriage? sucks......one of my faves too

yea, there are rumors she is pregnant.... well, she has good money now....

well in the news last night all the talk was no one really knows why. her announcement, I guess didnt go into details. but her announcement certainly has the golf world in an tailspin right now. I'm not sure it was her new marriage, or if she is pregnant. she always said she would retire early (in her 30's) anyway. I just think she has other greater priorities. But doggone it i think she was the best!

My God - GET Lives
You would think you were all shagging her in the rough from the way you talk !

Maybe they were LOL btw, you are kind of rude ,aren't you?

I'm sure she has a couple of holes in her yet

Maybe she is thinking of a new career in CC?
Why to complain then? ;-)

Wow, lucky him that was capable of making you feel all you mentioned. I am sure you made him feel good things as well. I am sure he cares about you the same way. Relationships are not easy and its about finding someone that loves you genuinely. I envy him. I am sure nobody I met felt anything turthful for me. I am only capable of being forgotten all the time, lmao!

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i am sad to hear of your sorrow. recently, i have had to part ways with a woman on here. all i can tell you is that i keep telling myself it was for the best for me and her. yes, i keep saying this. i keep telling myself we lived too far apart anyways and i was just a crazy dreamer.

and yet, i miss her deeply. i really want to see her and talk to her. each day i work at getting back to a normal life, to let go of my thoughts and feelings of her. is my life better? is her life better? that is the question. all i can tell you is i feel very hollow.

maybe it is not good to compare my situation to yours.

but what i think i am trying to say, is that if you think you really feel love for each other, then what are you moving away from? i realize that women would very much like it if us men understood their hearts and minds with no words spoken, but sometimes maybe we fail. it does not mean we do not love. sometimes we are confused, for various reasons. it does not me we do not love.

if you really have something special. then tell him how you feel, take a chance, tell him you love him. or have you ever spoken these words to him perhaps. tell him all you feel and think.

please, at least take one more chance. maybe it will make no difference, and nothing is changed. what have you lost? nothing. maybe . . . just maybe . . . he will hear or feel something different that he did not before . . . and what is to be gained? who can say.

there is some kind of saying that the only things in life that a person truly values are the things they fight for. the more you struggle and fight for something, the more precious it becomes. so fight for your love, do not be a coward as i have been. be strong, fight for your love, and cherish it.

love is so rare to find in this world. why give up on it so easily.

and yes, these are words of advice from a very foolish man, so weigh them carefully.

be braver than i ever was.

been there , done that , it`s hard ! ... you are not alone ! hugs

I'm so sad too, because there's someone here i really likem a lot. I never mind how much i spend in video with her, because i know it makes her happy. It hurts when she's in 121 with others, but i'm always waiting for her, and she likes it, that i'm there. Hosts, am i crazy?

No you are not crazy I have been there_ its hard to sustain after a time but hang on in there if you feel so much about her and the best of luck!
I am sure she will appreciate your efforts and feelings

I guess, my first post wont be uploaded, my mistake. Its the 3d time Im writing this one, first two I deleted. I dont think its a good idea to say some things outloud, but they say it helps to share...
So... First, wanted to say that you are not crazy, or at least you are not the only one crazy. =) Im a host. I have a bf. I can say that I have a normal happy life. Im hosting mainly in fetish&co, so no real sex shows nor romantic talks, not much at least, this category is very particular, not as Glamour or Lil shy. And yet, there is THAT member... that I feel so deeply falling for. Something new, that I ve never experienced before in my life. And I have to say, that I ve always considered myself as a rather cynical person, and of course I realise how "easy" it is to like or to love somebody that you know only online. Moreover, I understand that our lives are never going to cross in real. He is not single either, he has a (happy I hope) life of his own. And yet, he is coming regularly... (hope only to have some fun). Sigh... and its soo fucking hard. Really. I feel like Im hiding something or doing something wrong. but the only thought that i might never see him again kills me. Im trying to make it as less personal as possible. I dont have any intention to make things more serious, cause it can hurt too much ppl. And... I can imagine it should be funny to read all this about "porn-site-cam-to-cam-relationships". And yet, it happens.
Looking for a way out... It seems to me that the only way to stop it and not to make it happen again in the future, is to leave CC. =/ Even though I kinda like it here.
And for others "burnt"... think that this person you love is happy in her/his real life. Cause if they are, what else can we ask for? It helps to me at least...
And thanks to everyone for not laughing out loud =) I know all this sounds too naive, but really, you never know when it can hit you, thats the beauty of it...

I completely understand what you are talking about. I became close to someone here too once. Sometimes she was the most beautiful, funny, entertaining, wonderful person on this earth. Other times, for no apparent reason she wasn't.
Looking back, it was funny how she blew hot and cold but I never worked out why. Maybe she was trying to keep me at arms length??? Only she may know the answer.

At the time my circumstances where such that I couldn't be with her all the time but time has moved on and I'm single now and sometimes dream she would contact me. My pride gets in the way of calling her...

So, it is unlikely anything will ever happen which is a shame because I believe we would have been happy together.

I hope she found happiness elsewhere but if she didn't.... maybe she could contact me???

Sometimes we obsess over things that we know we can't have for the protection it affords us of the feeling of failing at those things that are right in front of us and genuinely possible.

Put your pride in your *** and call her, or write. Maybe she is happily married now and have 5 kids. Well, then you ll say that you are happy for her and will delete her address. Imho, its better to regret about something you did, than about something you didnt have guts to do. :P

Missy, thanks for your kind if not frank words.

I can't call her. When I made my decision to walk away, I deleted phone numbers, e-mail addresses and all other types of communication.
Also, she maybe happy where she is now and if she is, I won't want to disturb let alone distract her and hers.

I'll live with my hopes and dreams and maybe one day when the time is right for her, she may reach out. Hope I'm still single then!!!

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Why cant u be with him if its right?????

--- to Me!! ---
Your message touched me and I understand how you feel. Just for the record, it's not me to who you refer. The Host I fell for, we have not been intouch for years, on any level.

She is still about, may even read this but I doubt she will ever know who wrote it. I am probably just a distance memory of her past.
However, if it is possible I am anymore, I single and all yours!

Take care Me!! Move on and get a new life / love. You don't have to forget the past but don't try to live there.

did you ever tell him you love him before writing this post? sometimes that is all it takes.

good luck to you!

Seriously, STOP trying to have real relationships with the girls on this site. You can't start a relationship based on a financial transaction. If the girl wants to talk to you without you ever vistting her chat then maybe it's real. Otherwise wake up and find a woman where you live. The fact that you can't get a suitable girlfriend in your own country doesn't mean you'll find one who genuinely loves you in another.

Sure you can start a relationship here, but there's such a tiny chance, this site has got to be the last place you should be looking. It's a lazy way of looking though - not many girls will say yes to all your wants when you first meet. On this site they will. Recognise the difference. This aint reality.

I just wish I had realised that earlier.

To JustSomeViewer,
In many ways I completely agree with you. With regards to my own story, we met in real life and we live within 1 hours drive of each each. We enjoyed many days out, evenings in and the odd sleep over.
I grew close to a Host not in a virual world but in the real world....

awwwww, thank you !

a thank you for being passionately spewed upon?

in directionless splendor?

Who cleans up the mess after such poetry?

Sure, I saw many hosts from glamour and non-adults showing all the goods on another site. Here they always told me no, I dont do that. I am a decent girl, blah, blah, blah.... Next day found them somewhere else doing great shows. Sure, I went in and enjoyed the show. The reason for this is becuase C.C. is kind enough not to obliqe to show nudity as other some other sites do. The hosts here have a choice. Some sites are either you get naked or leave.

The few "relationships" I had here were with hosts who I trusted and believed. I really liked them. I even considered visiting them. Until...I found out they were lying about their shows ...it was ok if they didn't want to give me the full monty because they "liked" me. After a time I really liked them as themselves and didn't really care about the videos...though I did many with them. It was the deception. The one truth here is that hosts (and members) are almost universally liars.

Since everyone thinks everyone lies, I usually tell the truth and never worry about someone finding out about the real me because they always think it is a lie anyhow ;)

Yeh I don't use cam, so I always tell the host I am old, fat, bald, and ugly. They never believe me! How can I use cam now? i don't want to spoil their illusion LOL

One host i visited on here for month and said that she didn't like to show etc and as we were getting closer she now felt awkward for showing.I kinda accepted it a bit as I did like her but one day I did visit her under a different id and within 2 minutes she was completely naked.I just think she was using me and felt she could get away without being naked with me as she new I liker her

the ironic thing is that it's not the kind of viewer that a chathost quickly gets naked for but rather rather the kind she can string along as friends in video chat that really creams her jeans.

1. When your away, all I can think of is you and the next time our lips shall touch.
2. She likes me, not just my money, right?
3. Your the best friends a guy could have, I never have this much fun with anyone else.

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I like them both ways :-))

Why do some women look like men? it's because of nature and the varieties of human appearance

But there are also other factors: hormone treatments; depilatories; makeup; body sculpting with implants, etc. --- Take away the "accessories" and many will look just as much a man as any guy. But there are some with natural feminine features too, as in many of the Philippine and Thai TS hosts

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have you been to budapest ?

Ahh ... Budapest .... I followed a carrot there once and ended up being the dumb donkey :) But a beautiful city - everyone should go visit

By any chance, do you happen to pay her way on holiday?

A lot of things can be spoken of in ways to make a guy feel special. I wouldn't assume that talk of playing house with her means much of anything.

Sounds good to me so far. You had a nice holiday, enjoy it. Nothing is perfect anyway. Maybe she does have a bf, maybe not. Maybe she lives in a crappy apartment and dont want you to know it. Could be many things. If shes young, maybe she dont want to live with any guy just yet, maybe nothing personal.......Im sure you will work it out, women are so easy to figure out :)

Or maybe here parents don't want you staying with them ;) Many here still live at home.

Crazy girls are the best.

I like thme it makes it more fun and understanding the Eastern European translation is all part of it !!!(the fun bit) I love crazy Russians in particular

Cool, Im glad Im not the only one.........wait u ........

but which curious are you

i am the one she sees when your back is turned ;-)

She is true to me.......so she has said

Yeah, you're special, bud.
Up until the time you max-out your credit card, at least.

name her then if you are so sure. Or maybe there's a reason she told you not to...

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or an "L" between the "i" and the "e" of your name above LOL haha

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I'm glad you took my reply as a friendly "jibe" poking fun. Because I didn't intend it to be critical. but there do seem to be a lot of hosts who do as you say, not because they truly love their members but because it is a great way for them to ensure repeat business.

Ok,

I am from Missouri, she would have to prove it....and the way I would it is go see here under another screen name....be just as nice as your other screen name and refer to her pussy as her kitty, just don't call it the same thing you do in your other screen name....,video?....you don't have one, at the office, have a 'thing" against them...etc....hell ...if you have to....borrow your buddy's topay. good luck!

Please dont use this nick its mine I hate to look stupid ))

and when i am not in the pond I am the Pope

I thought April Fool's Day was April 1 not April 19 ? Did I make a mistake?

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are you sure your two very special one and onlies haven't both come on video and took you for a ride under different screen names?:)

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you must be one of those hosts who only plays naked in one2one..............good luck with your 2 "the ones" lol:)

haha, now I'm curious to know who this host is....I thought I was special, hahahaha

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Are you a woman? ;)

This whole post was sarcasm, wasnt meant to be taken seriously. I have had many hosts tell me you are the one.....why do you have to live so far away? why cant i find someone like you around here?
soon you must come get me so we can start our life together and all that bologny :)

I'm gad you finaly told them it was all tongue in cheek I have been waiting for someone to realize not everything needs to be taken seriously

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Yes I was also told by a peformer I was the only one who knew about her personal life, the only one who knew her real name, the only one she wanted to keep in touch, the one she talked more... and after all, it's what all them says to everybody because they know they'll like to "hear" that.

Right On. I was told I was "the one" she wanted to meet, but.... I found out there many "ones" that she has already met....

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